The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

By the year 2040, about 70% of Americans are expected to live in the 15 largest states. They will have 30 senators representing them. The remaining 30% of Americans, in small sparsely populated states, will have 70 senators representing them.

— Melissa Ross (@MelissainJax) June 27, 2022

if anyone else has the curse that i do, of reading something like that and wondering "what percentage of americans currently live in the 15 most populous states?", the answer is 66%, as of the 2020 census. it is a problem!

2 out of 3 live in these 15 most populous states.

Massachusetts	7,029,917
Arizona			7,151,502
Washington		7,705,281
Virginia			8,631,393
New Jersey		9,288,994
Michigan			10,077,331
North Carolina	        10,439,388
Georgia			10,711,908
Ohio			11,799,448
Illinois			12,812,508
Pennsylvania		13,002,700
New York		        20,201,249
Florida			21,538,187
Texas			29,145,505
California		        39,538,223

i object to these 15 states, so i renounced my citizenship from "Big Pop State" and moved to the free state enterprise thought leader of the christian states of america, missouri

(That is probably the worst cause of misrepresentation. One might think there could be better ways to represent certain populations for certain purposes and certain populations for other purposes, e.g., global taxation.)

I mean.. isn't that the way it was set up a couple hundred years ago? House is based on population, and states get two Senators each. You can't jerrymander the Senate, they run statewide

I've heard the 'abolish the Senate' arguments aplenty, but c'mon.. ain't gonna happen anytime soon

Eat the Senators

So who's pumped up for surprise Jan 6 hearings? Surely this will be something new, right? RIGHT?!?

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-wont-consider-lowering-bar-prove-defamation-2022-06-27/

agh! oh sorry, the surprise hearing startled me. ha!

The revised schedule comes several days after the committee announced a brief hiatus to assess new evidence and records obtained by the committee, with plans to wait until after the July Fourth holiday for any further public hearings. The sudden change suggested an urgency and sensitivity around Tuesday’s presentation.

Last week, British filmmaker Alex Holder met with committee investigators behind closed doors and provided over 10 hours of footage to the panel from interviews with Trump, his adult children, former vice president Mike Pence, and from the attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob. The committee has been in contact with new individuals involved in the efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, including conservative activist Virginia “Ginni" Thomas, who is Justice Clarence Thomas’s wife, as well as Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.).

now would be a great time for the hearings to address Ginni Thomas, to illustrate the plain-as-day corruption of the supreme court. seems like a timely issue

maybe Charo is gonna guest star

I'm gonna post the same thing I wrote in the gay thread two weeks ago, and I see overlap: stop assuming the worst of posters. Have the moral imagination to accept why other people who share your political beliefs might watch the 1/6 hearings.

Neanderthal and I live in Florida. We know what posturing looks and sounds like.

I’m the first to say that I respect and like many of you, but I do not hold the same political beliefs as most of you.

In fact, with a few notable exceptions, I like and respect all of you!

You mean you dislike Joe Biden and the Dems more than the rest of us? Do tell!

ok fine, sub in "a desire to see a better world"

sorry that was to tabes

table we totally share the same beliefs

i guess what i’d like is fewer superiority trips itt pls, y’all are like the record store clerks of us politics

otm

I'd have serious doubts about someone's morality if they confessed to never being surprised. It's not cynicism -- cynicism is a version of sentimentality.

“Actually -“

this feinstein record keeps skipping, can I return it?

not unless it's produced by Tony Visconti

You mean you dislike Joe Biden and the Dems more than the rest of us? Do tell!

I’m not trying to be superior, fwiw, I’m just stating my actual beliefs without veering too far into what I actually believe, because I’d be FPed into oblivion.

it's not a zero sum game, there are plenty of tools in the toolbox, voting is the least that can be done but far from the most/best

(speaking as a fellow anarchist who prefers to look for solidarity rather than dealbreaking differences fwiw)

i agree with that!

<3

yeah I agree

I also never said “don’t vote,” I think local elections are the only place where leftist policy can really be enacted at this point. I just have no faith in the three branches of the federal government, and haven’t for a long time, and tbh don’t give a shit if that makes me a cynic.

vote local, think national (sorry)

me, I'm in the unusual position of holding out faith in the deep state to preserve capital a.k.a. society for the benefit of more than just the oligarchs

(b/c yeah the 3 branches aren't really cutting it atm)

not sure if people think of the administration of federal regulations as the executive branch, but the supreme court is supposedly about to deliver a punch to the gut when the WV v EPA decision comes

Do tell how we simply must continue to work with and inside a system that has done nothing but fuck most people over for my entire life

You are addressing an interlocutor here who conveniently fits a mold you'd prefer to dismiss.

The system is there whether we want it to go away or not. No one here likes this system, but our dislike doesn't matter unless it's manifested in action. If you see ways to work around the system to make life better for the rest of us, more power to you. But we'll all still be inside it for the foreseeable. Smashing it at a blow is a fantasy, not an option. Until then, we'll continue to seek the crevices of power we can occupy to some good end.

As for the Jan 6 committee, I see no harm in their making it plain to everyone who cares to see that Jan 6 was a serious attempt by fascists at the violent overthrow of our government. I think we all agree that had it succeeded it would not have been an improvement over the present system.

It is, and the existence of such is a New Deal development that conservatives have wanted to gut xpost

I can't believe I am actually saying positive things about Gavin Newsom (it's a SF 2000 thing) but ...

NY thankfully did something similar, though I'm not a big Hochul fan

BREAKING NEWS: Judge Stone GRANTS a temporary restraining order, blocking Utah's abortion ban from being enforced. @fox13 #utpol #Utah

— Ben Winslow (@BenWinslow) June 27, 2022

i can't believe there are people on here grandstanding about not watching the 1/6 hearings.

It's the I Don't Even Own A Television of the politics threads

I don't even own an insurrection

"grandstanding" is a bit much. why don't we just move on though?

Let's run it up the flagpole and see...

Politics' weirdest year.

"grandstanding" is a bit much. why don't we just move on though?

― rob, Tuesday, June 28, 2022 2:31 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok thread cop--was merely just pointing something out, that there are a couple of folks here being tools, but by all means, i'll keep walking officer, sorry i stepped off the sidewalk won't happen again

lol ok dude

I admit the defeatist attitude is obnoxious, like for years leftists have been trying to warn everyone that the right wing in this country are fascists who may attempt to overthrow our democracy through violence, and that the news needs to cover them as such, and now there is a lengthy, well-argued primetime hearing demonstrating how they tried to do just that, and the reaction is "Meh, won't matter?" I mean what do we really want here?

‘Why should we hear about insurrections and coups? It’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?’

You mistake the warnings of leftists about fascism with faith or concern with protecting Empire— it is about protecting people, and no matter what any of you say, the US federal government seems to be much more interested in immiserating or killing people than protecting them.

“our democracy “ lmfao