The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

iirc Clue is indeed one of the better of these apps, but IANAL and can't comment on whether US citizen data would be protected or not.

But yes I wouldn't end the conversation at deleting these apps. I have this open in another tab but haven't had the stomach to read it yet: https://www.stopspying.org/pregnancy-panopticon

ot sure how old you are man alive but some of us have been sold this bullshit story by right wing "liberals" for way too long to believe it any more

― Harry Styles and fashion (Noodle Vague), Friday, June 24, 2022 11:57 AM (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

When Democrats had sufficient majorities, they nominated center to liberal justices. When we had a center to liberal majority, we got Roe, Obgerfell, etc. When we lost the majority we got conservative justices. This is just the truth, it's not about whether liberals are "fake" it's what happened.

Perhaps that should be a lesson on relying on anti-democratic institution rather than legislating and governing.

institutions

There's a multi billion dollar industry around knowing when women are pregnant. Something related — a package full of baby-related coupons arriving in the mail a few days before his daughter's first birthday — kicked off The Naked Consumer, a book about marketing as surveillance that I read in 1994.

its such an endlessly frustrating situation. I can't even get too mad at the Dems for all those "the future of democracy is at stake!" emails because you know what? they're right. but they're gonna get killed unless they do something besides recite fucking poems. they had months to prepare for this. if they fumble the ball on something the nation overwhelmingly wants I can't blame the youth for not showing up.

My thoughts on the Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. pic.twitter.com/9ALSbapHDY

— Michelle Obama (@MichelleObama) June 24, 2022

apparently this must be a wake up call to young people. great stuff.

good take on the tracking stuff

Unregulated technology allows many, many ways for law enforcement *or* vigilantes to identify and hunt down women suspected of being pregnant.

My new essay explains why avoiding this as an individual—by deleting apps or being careful—will not be feasible.https://t.co/x7JKB0CzRl pic.twitter.com/e75yW9Wtc3

— zeynep tufekci (@zeynep) May 19, 2022

(i.e. telling people to delete clue is like telling people to delete their facebook account. yes, they should, but that doesn't come close to fixing the problem.)

Can I say I identify as a corporation and therefore do not need to obey any laws that threaten my bottom line?

I get what you're saying caek (and Tufecki, who has been saying it for a while), but if it's not clear, I a) want people to take whatever small steps *today* that they can do easily and b) don't expect any data privacy or tech regulations to be passed in the US anytime soon...though tbf I may have missed something as I actively try not to follow US political news as closely as I used to. I do know there are a few bills kicking around, I just assume they're all dead in the Senate

if they fumble the ball on something the nation overwhelmingly wants I can't blame the youth for not showing up.

If "the youth" stop voting, I expect direct action. And by that I mean firebombings and assassinations. If the system is a lost cause, then carry that logic to its natural endpoint and show me Clarence and Ginni Thomas decapitated on video. Either participate in the system, or contribute materially to its destruction. Otherwise, you're just making excuses for your own laziness.

I mean, if this country really is the failed state it shows every indication of being, what's the logic behind continuing to prop it up, other than cowardice and purest self-interest?

Two words:

Burner phones

not morally opposed to violence but man the libs are not going to win that one. not just because they are massively outgunned on a per citizen basis, but when it pops off the state is always going to side with the right. i mean, it just will. idc which ossified democrat filling his or her depends is sitting in the Oval or reading bono poems on the floor of the House.

Anyway, good luck USA

general strike for monday already making the rounds on reddit. i want everyone to participate, regardless of how much you like your place of work. this is wrong and broken and things need to stop for the majority to recognize it.

There's a multi billion dollar industry around knowing when women are pregnant. Something related — a package full of baby-related coupons arriving in the mail a few days before his daughter's first birthday — kicked off The Naked Consumer, a book about marketing as surveillance that I read in 1994.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, June 24, 2022 1:01 PM

You can't even buy towels at Target without triggering some of this crap.

A general strike would be a great idea, except I can only dream of a USA that's organized enough to call a general strike that wouldn't call more attention to its weakness than act as a show of strength.

gen strike would be amazing.

sex strike would be p interesting too but then I remember oh yeah a slight majority of white women voted for Trump and that number only edged up in 2020 iirc

The most astonishing thing to me continues to be the women who loudly and publicly and repeatedly announce, "No, I don't think I should be an equal member of society, and I don't think other women should, either."

ok fuck

People seeking abortions are going to be surveilled through their phones. But when I began researching the issue earlier this year, I realized many pregnant women were being arrested because of something else: a loophole in HIPAA https://t.co/VnJDUQZxfv pic.twitter.com/b5ZLb9EQP4

— Louise Matsakis (@lmatsakis) June 24, 2022

at least a lot of people who would have been happy about this choked to death on a ventilator last year while their wife begged for money on facebook

— 🦁🐒 (@Lowenaffchen) June 24, 2022

this is good. wonder how many other companies will follow suit.

The CEO of Dick’s Sporting Goods on LinkedIn pic.twitter.com/maqYINYSUQ

— Matt Lindner (@mattlindner) June 24, 2022

Walt Disney World has offered to pay for its employees to go out of state to acquire abortion as of an hour or two ago.

America, where we rely on sporting good stores to help us get healthcare

A general strike would be a great idea, except I can only dream of a USA that's organized enough to call a general strike that wouldn't call more attention to its weakness than act as a show of strength.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, June 24, 2022 11:48 AM

fuck organizing. just don't go to work. when your boss calls to ask what happened, politely explain that a country without basic human rights isn't safe for humans anymore so you're staying home. that simple. no more questions, thanks for understanding, see you when it gets sorted. have a nice day.

would it cause interruptions in day to day comforts? of course it would. but a lot less than sticking in the holding pattern while full fascism slides in and royally fucks us all. expose the weakness. exploit it.

A real post from Donald Trump Jr. on Truth Social, if you're wondering what this is really about to the ex-president's family. pic.twitter.com/ALccPVnUMK

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 24, 2022

Roe v. Wade is the law of the land, and we must fight any and all attempts to overturn it. As president, I will codify Roe into law and ensure this choice remains between a woman and her doctor. https://t.co/kaJbYWcYhL

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) October 5, 2019

Cool I already took Monday off 😎

seeing video of police in full riot gear rolling up on the capitol building.

fuck this country.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWCpdrJUYAAfFIS?format=png&name=large

The follow-up, wow.

He deleted lol pic.twitter.com/36HVg94qvr

— cryptid (@cryptid04780551) June 24, 2022

chuds w zip ties scale capitol walls and physically assault out precious blue lives - I sleep

saw some mean tweets about the Supremes - riot gear and vans

our precious*

They welcome political violence. They just might get it.

fuck organizing.

I guess that's the American way of life. good luck with that.

Oh there's some organizing going on...

Sen. Josh Hawley calls the abortion ruling a watershed moment in American politics. He says he thinks there will be a sorting out in where people live and in voting patterns that he thinks will benefit Republicans with the electoral college.

— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) June 24, 2022

Apparently even Trump himself was privately worried about this firing up the suburban women's vote

I don't think abortion access is going to make California or New York more affordable for people in Kentucky.

or, say, Mississippi

Lubbock, TX, to Tupelo, MS, is nearly 900 miles, and soon there won't be an abortion clinic that whole stretch https://t.co/NdnNyejQxi

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 24, 2022

And there's no reason to expect that not to stretch all the way to South Carolina, ASAP. (Though I guess Georgia depends on this year's election.)

I guess that's the American way of life. good luck with that.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, June 24, 2022 1:20 PM

get what you're saying, but this requires immediate response with impact. signs and shit obviously don't do a damn thing.

don't talk about it, be about it.

(also stay home where the cops can't beat the shit out of you)

what's the lowest cost of living state that is unlikely to outlaw abortion (until it's banned federally the next time we have a republican trifecta)? new mexico?

yeah gotta be NM.

it’s definitely the poorest “safe” blue state

Probably not lowest cost of living, but I've been pondering whether Maryland or Delaware may at least be reasonable alternatives to Texas if it becomes time to bail.

i'm just thinking out loud here. i realize moving isn't an option for most people.

This thread title proved all too accurate.

That's why I like the silly ones.