The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

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“someone should do something about all the problems.”

I'm not saying he's remotely doing as much as he should or even nearly enough, but is he not in this instance asking the non-gun-o-sexual majority of America to voice its fear and disgust of these weapons to drown the NRA-funded and amplified pro-gun minority? The bully pulpit is one thing but it's also helpful and important for the congregation to speak as well.

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 24 June 2022 09:47 (three years ago)

Like surely there are enough things to argue over what he actually says without thoroughly mistranslating/misquoting what he says for another murderously cynical ILX post?

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 24 June 2022 09:47 (three years ago)

People have been making their voices heard on the issue for years, and little has been done, so his statement is a platitude.

Acting as if our cynicism hasn’t been earned is a neat trick, but it won’t work.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 24 June 2022 11:20 (three years ago)

That's precisely why it doesn't offend me. Platitudes be platitudes.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 11:54 (three years ago)

oops I just posted that same Abrams tweet to the dem party direction thread. what's especially galling/remarkable imo is the contrast in detail & quantification in here two "plans."

Plan to give cops more budget:

Here’s how I plan to do this:

✅ Raise base salary for state officers to $50k/year
✅ Provide grants to localities to support increased salary for local law enforcement
✅ Secure mental health support for law enforcement
✅ Invest in expanded training and collaborative support

Plan for accountability:

Here’s how I plan to do this (1/2):

✅ Develop guidelines for police department policies that govern community relations and transparency
✅ Partner with the Georgia Peace Officers Standards and Training Program to fortify training standards
✅ Require accountability for unlawful violence and misconduct
✅ Provide and maintain a statewide database of officers dismissed for violation of standards to help other law enforcement agencies make informed hiring decisions

So cops get material support and the people they terrorize get bureaucracy. I understand the electoral political situation (it's been a while but I lived in GA for 6 years), but comparing these two plans it's clearly not the deciding factor. These plans communicate values, if it was political theater masking an actual critique of the police, the former would be the symbolic plan and the latter the material one.

rob, Friday, 24 June 2022 12:42 (three years ago)

the (I would have thought obvious) problem with Biden's tweet is that people have already been doing that to no avail

rob, Friday, 24 June 2022 12:43 (three years ago)

And Roe has fallen.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:16 (three years ago)

In a solo concurring opinion, Thomas says the court should reconsider rulings that protect contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage. pic.twitter.com/zcQNko6NVR

— Matt Ford (@fordm) June 24, 2022

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:17 (three years ago)

so are we the first country to ever take abortion rights away or what

frogbs, Friday, 24 June 2022 14:24 (three years ago)

What's the tipping point at which international corporations pull out of the US because their employees can't get proper medical care and there are guns everywhere?

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:31 (three years ago)

Poland and Nicaragua xp

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:43 (three years ago)

I forget what are Manchinema's abortion views. The House and Senate could pass a bill this weekend and get it to the president's desk ensuring abortion is federally protected. Right?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:46 (three years ago)

they support a woman's right to choose, but also acknowledge that a senator's sacred right to a filibuster is even more important to protect

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:47 (three years ago)

it's more important that the filibuster is protected, very sorry

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:48 (three years ago)

I keep thinking about how, with two months notice that this ruling was coming, the democratic-controlled congress not only *didn't* codify abortion rights, but overwhelmingly passed a security bill protecting these SCOTUS justices

— The Beverly of Cheverly (@NickoGallo) June 24, 2022

frogbs, Friday, 24 June 2022 14:48 (three years ago)

very important to ensure their security, also very important that everyone can conceal carry

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:49 (three years ago)

what happens when the ruling court of the land does not represent the majority of its citizens?

"Why is the voice of reason treated as the unreliable narrator?", asked (Austin), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:56 (three years ago)

so are we the first country to ever take abortion rights away or what


Poland, I think.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:58 (three years ago)

_so are we the first country to ever take abortion rights away or what_


Poland, I think.


Oops

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:59 (three years ago)

anyone know of any orgs that are helping women who need to travel for abortions? i wanna be down.

"Why is the voice of reason treated as the unreliable narrator?", asked (Austin), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:59 (three years ago)

what happens when the ruling court of the land does not represent the majority of its citizens?


That’s pretty much its job as designed.

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 24 June 2022 14:59 (three years ago)

Yeah. The Warren Court was a historical aberration.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:01 (three years ago)

you forgot poland

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:02 (three years ago)

Poland is a historical aberration.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:07 (three years ago)

This is something that @jbouie and @rtraister have both been writing about. The gap between the Democratic leadership, and younger progressives on the question of “How Bad Is It?” is just *enormous*. https://t.co/Y9TIhbH8sN

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 24, 2022

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:09 (three years ago)

What's the tipping point at which international corporations pull out of the US because their employees can't get proper medical care and there are guns everywhere?



bold to assume that corporations actually give a shit about any of this. the important thing is that C suite will never be bound by such hassles

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:15 (three years ago)

Poland is a historical aberration.


How?

gyac, Friday, 24 June 2022 15:17 (three years ago)

anyone know of any orgs that are helping women who need to travel for abortions? i wanna be down.

be extra careful if you're in a state which has deputized their citizens to sue anyone helping someone get an abortion across state lines. already happened in TX, and there's legislation modeled off of that in other states that will be rubber stamped soon.

not to deter you -- those awful laws make it even _more_ important to help women travel across state lines in their time of desperation

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:20 (three years ago)

The gap... is just *enormous*

Old people have spent a lifetime adapting themselves to the status quo. As a generality, even when they hate the way things are they tend to be more comfortable with slow change than with the idea of upending the status quo and having to cope with radical changes in their waning years.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:20 (three years ago)

How?
― gyac, Friday, June 24, 2022

Terrible joke.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:22 (three years ago)

tbf, Poland has spent more time not existing than existing.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:23 (three years ago)

my mother's ob/gyn, who also worked at a clinic that provided abortions, was shot to death in his own home after returning from a memorial service for his father. the anti abortion movement responded by holding pro life rallies in the area in the days following his murder. https://t.co/KzQ027u2yl

— mark (@kept_simple) June 24, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2022 15:44 (three years ago)

I'm not saying he's remotely doing as much as he should or even nearly enough, but is he not in this instance asking the non-gun-o-sexual majority of America to voice its fear and disgust of these weapons to drown the NRA-funded and amplified pro-gun minority? The bully pulpit is one thing but it's also helpful and important for the congregation to speak as well.

Have Americans across the country made their voices heard on any other issues ibe


Like, say, abortion rights.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 24 June 2022 15:46 (three years ago)

anyone know of any orgs that are helping women who need to travel for abortions? i wanna be down.


Not sure where you’re at but In California there is Access Reproductive Justice: http://accessrj.org

For Nevada there is Wild West Access Fund of Nevada: http://www.wildwestfund.org

brimstead, Friday, 24 June 2022 15:53 (three years ago)

"If Republicans win the House and Senate and White House in two years, they'll impose a national abortion ban!", said the elected Democrat in the currently Democratic-controlled Senate, without clarifying what he'll do in the next 2 years to try and stop that shit from happening.

— Josh Spiegel (@mousterpiece) June 24, 2022

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi reads a poem in reaction to SCOTUS overturning Roe v. Wade. pic.twitter.com/tEFDbgR04M

— The Recount (@therecount) June 24, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2022 16:07 (three years ago)

Fucking insane.

Salvador Dalí Mini-Me (PBKR), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:10 (three years ago)

Insane that she didn't do what? Brandished an AR-15 she purchased hours earlier and promised to "waste their fucking conservative majority asses"?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:16 (three years ago)

Sorry. I'm just having a hard time keeping up with the changing standards of what's insane and what isn't.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:17 (three years ago)

Yes, we can see that.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 24 June 2022 16:18 (three years ago)

Heartwarming: This woman's political rivals rolled the clock back to 1972 so she wouldn't be disoriented about where in time she thinks she is. https://t.co/gix5fJjLQv

— man it’s a hot zone, (@Mobute) June 24, 2022

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:18 (three years ago)

Let me guess - a poem by Bono.

This just sucks.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:18 (three years ago)

Doesn't have to be full-blown insane to be outrageously inane.

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:18 (three years ago)

how about: insane that she backed Henry Cuellar over Jessica Cisneros

rob, Friday, 24 June 2022 16:18 (three years ago)

Can she get Bono to write her a poem about how profoundly she wishes the Republican Party become stronger

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:18 (three years ago)

Joe Manchin:

"I trusted Justice Gorsuch and Justice Kavanaugh when they testified under oath that they also believed Roe v. Wade was settled legal precedent and I am alarmed they chose to reject the stability the ruling has provided for two generations of Americans."

— Arthur Delaney 🇺🇸 (@ArthurDelaneyHP) June 24, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:19 (three years ago)

I have … a few choice words for Joe Manchin.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:19 (three years ago)

Fucking insane.

― Salvador Dalí Mini-Me (PBKR), Friday, June 24, 2022 12:10 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Insane that she didn't do what? Brandished an AR-15 she purchased hours earlier and promised to "waste their fucking conservative majority asses"?

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, June 24, 2022 12:16 PM (forty seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Please shut up.

Salvador Dalí Mini-Me (PBKR), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:22 (three years ago)

Manchin needs to be spat on at his own home

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:22 (three years ago)

Manchin needs to be spat on at burned out of his own home

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 24 June 2022 16:26 (three years ago)


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