The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

The bulk of the Georgia electorate does not care about these finer points. They see headlines about people getting shot in Buckhead in broad daylight and conclude that Something Must Be Done.

I was a bit blind to how pervasive cop fetishism was in this country in my 20s.

then two years ago, the father of this kid defriended me over my criticisms of the police: https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2021/05/29/seminole-county-boy-runs-900-miles-in-honor-of-fallen-officers

we'd been very friendly previously, as he was a sweet man, but dude went down a thin blue line rabbit hole. and him indoctrinating his kid into this, well fuck

The bulk of the Georgia electorate does not care about these finer points. They see headlines about people getting shot in Buckhead in broad daylight and conclude that Something Must Be Done.

Yes, but the problem is that playing into that doesn't work for Democrats. Kinda like nominating a 'war hero' against a 'draft dodger' didn't matter.

I agree, it makes the Democrats look like weak sauce Republicans. Not sure what the alternative is, though.

A political party that didn't give up on ideas for improving the lives of citizens in 1977.

In 2022, such a party would be doomed to obscurity.

Biden, in a statement on the Supreme Court guns decision sent to reporters by email: "I call on Americans across the country to make their voices heard on gun safety. Lives are on the line."

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) June 23, 2022

You Guys Should Definitely Do Something About It is a bold midterm strategy.

OK, I won't do something about it.

Alfred, you must admit that there is something funny about the President of the United States saying “someone should do something about all the problems.”

look buddy you took the damn job

gonna have to convince God to smite down 2 Supreme Court justices

i think we should all know by now that you have to be really specific when you make requests like that to god. now he's going to kill two more liberal wing justices, just to make a point about that, great

this holiday season, every decision is 8-1

well that's assuming Biden nominates right wing judges which...I mean, it's not written in stone

Have Americans across the country made their voices heard on any other issues ibe

“someone should do something about all the problems.”

I'm not saying he's remotely doing as much as he should or even nearly enough, but is he not in this instance asking the non-gun-o-sexual majority of America to voice its fear and disgust of these weapons to drown the NRA-funded and amplified pro-gun minority? The bully pulpit is one thing but it's also helpful and important for the congregation to speak as well.

Like surely there are enough things to argue over what he actually says without thoroughly mistranslating/misquoting what he says for another murderously cynical ILX post?

People have been making their voices heard on the issue for years, and little has been done, so his statement is a platitude.

Acting as if our cynicism hasn’t been earned is a neat trick, but it won’t work.

That's precisely why it doesn't offend me. Platitudes be platitudes.

oops I just posted that same Abrams tweet to the dem party direction thread. what's especially galling/remarkable imo is the contrast in detail & quantification in here two "plans."

Plan to give cops more budget:

Here’s how I plan to do this:

✅ Raise base salary for state officers to $50k/year
✅ Provide grants to localities to support increased salary for local law enforcement
✅ Secure mental health support for law enforcement
✅ Invest in expanded training and collaborative support

Plan for accountability:

Here’s how I plan to do this (1/2):

✅ Develop guidelines for police department policies that govern community relations and transparency
✅ Partner with the Georgia Peace Officers Standards and Training Program to fortify training standards
✅ Require accountability for unlawful violence and misconduct
✅ Provide and maintain a statewide database of officers dismissed for violation of standards to help other law enforcement agencies make informed hiring decisions

So cops get material support and the people they terrorize get bureaucracy. I understand the electoral political situation (it's been a while but I lived in GA for 6 years), but comparing these two plans it's clearly not the deciding factor. These plans communicate values, if it was political theater masking an actual critique of the police, the former would be the symbolic plan and the latter the material one.

the (I would have thought obvious) problem with Biden's tweet is that people have already been doing that to no avail

And Roe has fallen.

In a solo concurring opinion, Thomas says the court should reconsider rulings that protect contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage. pic.twitter.com/zcQNko6NVR

— Matt Ford (@fordm) June 24, 2022

so are we the first country to ever take abortion rights away or what

What's the tipping point at which international corporations pull out of the US because their employees can't get proper medical care and there are guns everywhere?

Poland and Nicaragua xp

I forget what are Manchinema's abortion views. The House and Senate could pass a bill this weekend and get it to the president's desk ensuring abortion is federally protected. Right?

they support a woman's right to choose, but also acknowledge that a senator's sacred right to a filibuster is even more important to protect

it's more important that the filibuster is protected, very sorry

I keep thinking about how, with two months notice that this ruling was coming, the democratic-controlled congress not only *didn't* codify abortion rights, but overwhelmingly passed a security bill protecting these SCOTUS justices

— The Beverly of Cheverly (@NickoGallo) June 24, 2022

very important to ensure their security, also very important that everyone can conceal carry

what happens when the ruling court of the land does not represent the majority of its citizens?

so are we the first country to ever take abortion rights away or what

_so are we the first country to ever take abortion rights away or what_


Poland, I think.

anyone know of any orgs that are helping women who need to travel for abortions? i wanna be down.

what happens when the ruling court of the land does not represent the majority of its citizens?

Yeah. The Warren Court was a historical aberration.

you forgot poland

Poland is a historical aberration.

This is something that @jbouie and @rtraister have both been writing about. The gap between the Democratic leadership, and younger progressives on the question of “How Bad Is It?” is just *enormous*. https://t.co/Y9TIhbH8sN

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 24, 2022

What's the tipping point at which international corporations pull out of the US because their employees can't get proper medical care and there are guns everywhere?

Poland is a historical aberration.

anyone know of any orgs that are helping women who need to travel for abortions? i wanna be down.

be extra careful if you're in a state which has deputized their citizens to sue anyone helping someone get an abortion across state lines. already happened in TX, and there's legislation modeled off of that in other states that will be rubber stamped soon.

not to deter you -- those awful laws make it even _more_ important to help women travel across state lines in their time of desperation

The gap... is just *enormous*

Old people have spent a lifetime adapting themselves to the status quo. As a generality, even when they hate the way things are they tend to be more comfortable with slow change than with the idea of upending the status quo and having to cope with radical changes in their waning years.

How?
― gyac, Friday, June 24, 2022

Terrible joke.

tbf, Poland has spent more time not existing than existing.

my mother's ob/gyn, who also worked at a clinic that provided abortions, was shot to death in his own home after returning from a memorial service for his father. the anti abortion movement responded by holding pro life rallies in the area in the days following his murder. https://t.co/KzQ027u2yl

— mark (@kept_simple) June 24, 2022

I'm not saying he's remotely doing as much as he should or even nearly enough, but is he not in this instance asking the non-gun-o-sexual majority of America to voice its fear and disgust of these weapons to drown the NRA-funded and amplified pro-gun minority? The bully pulpit is one thing but it's also helpful and important for the congregation to speak as well.

Have Americans across the country made their voices heard on any other issues ibe

anyone know of any orgs that are helping women who need to travel for abortions? i wanna be down.

"If Republicans win the House and Senate and White House in two years, they'll impose a national abortion ban!", said the elected Democrat in the currently Democratic-controlled Senate, without clarifying what he'll do in the next 2 years to try and stop that shit from happening.

— Josh Spiegel (@mousterpiece) June 24, 2022