The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

some of the cronies outside of DOJ, outside of government entirely, I think, drafted a memo that they hoped to have DOJ send out, under DOJ's letterhead.

I know that happens constantly at a state level. ALEC basically writes the legislation of many red states, verbatim.

is that common at all within DOJ, to have an outside source draft a memo for them? The guy testifying now says that was "very unusual", but how "very unusual" is that? hopefully "very, very very unusual", perhaps 4 or 5 verys

looooooool remember when Trump wanted Barr to establish a special counsel to investigate the "stolen election", and barr refused to do it? trump had promised SIDNEY POWELL she would be that special counsel! this is sooooooooo duuuuuumb lol jfc

imagine putting sidney powell in charge of anything!!! anything at all!!!

is that common at all within DOJ, to have an outside source draft a memo for them?

In a word, no.

it's satisfying to see them exposed and humiliated (for now), but really, all of this is a giant warning sign. you have to be THIS bad in order to finally face any accountability whatsoever for trying to steal the election in plain sight. and even then, it takes thousands of people storming a capitol and a bunch of white nationalists trying to murder pence before it even gets close to the point where they might be caught. this is a giant "do whatever the fuck you want, it's barely impossible to get caught" warning sign

is it barley possible to get caught or barely impossible to get caught? the typo speaks to how unlikely it is

barley possible = Best Brew Pub

"you guys may not be following the internet the same way i do" is my vote for next thread title. the worst person in the entire world said it

Yeah, my first thought was that was a quote for the ages.

that's the primary role of the Commander in Chief, keeping his eyes on the World Wide Web to make sure there's no funny business

one thing I'm appreciating about these hearings is it's at least dismantling the usual Trump defense: "he's just a dumb asshole who doesn't know what laws he's breaking", seems like everyone told him this was idiotic and highly illegal and he's just like "yeah so what"

This is … really something.

https://i.imgur.com/lth3LN9.png

it's just a minor thing, but Trump's team was so sure that Clark (a complete fool, getting clowned by everyone because he was so obviously incompetent) was going to replace Rosen at DOJ that they indicated so on the call log

that's the primary role of the Commander in Chief, keeping his eyes on the World Wide Web to make sure there's no funny business

World War 2 was going very badly for the allies. Suddenly, FDR noticed a theory on the internet about how the italians had tampered with the election in the united states. somehow, no one in the world had taken this theory secretly, until FDR noticed and brought it to the attention of his subordinates. he truly was the smartest, best man in the entire world

notice the timing of that call from Clark. this shit is why marijuana gets a bad name

I went from morning drive-thru cashier to CEO of McDonalds... it can happen

“I believe I should be on the pardon list, if …”

the list just came out. so SHOCKING to see names like Gaetz, Brooks, MJT, Gohmert, Biggs asking for everyone!

Wow, no one would ever suspect those other people because they have such good reputations

Tbf, Gaetz thought the pardon would be for other stuff too...

it feels like there should be an avalanche, any minute. a bunch of consequences, gears in motion. something happening, people leaving congress, whatever. something.

somehow, i think that tomorrow we'll wake up and it will be more of the same

xp yeah, they said he was asking about it back in Dec. guy needs a blanket pardon more than most

that little soundbite of Clark pleading the 5th, but also asserting 'executive privilege'? that was insane

Basically admitting he was working as personal counsel for the President, rather than DOJ

everyone in trump's orbit made that decision on some level. they all chose to serve trump and seek personal gain at the expense of the rest of the country

the list just came out. so SHOCKING to see names like Gaetz, Brooks, MJT, Gohmert, Biggs asking for everyone!

also Scott Perry (R-PA, up and comer whose name i don't recognize yet)

here's how it went down, for those who missed it:

White House officials testified that Matt Gaetz, Mo Brooks, Andy Biggs, Gohmert, and Perry wanted pardons, and Jordan and Greene were curious about them as well. pic.twitter.com/qzRpwCbVaB

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 23, 2022

'pardon curious'

Lol

Clark pled the 5th more than 125 times during his deposition

politicians will look up and shout 'PARDON US!'...and I'll look down and whisper 'Lol'.

When someone on the ‘left’ side of the Democratic party is publicly making pronouncements like this, you know that the Overton Window has moved so far right that the party is completely irredeemable. Imho.

Law enforcement are often paid less than a living wage, and that is wrong.

We must raise pay for officers and address violent crime as we work to build community trust and foster law enforcement accountability.

— Stacey Abrams (@staceyabrams) June 23, 2022

hey cool if we raise their pay will they stop robbing civilians via civil forfeitures?

lol no of course not, only now instead of paying rent it will pay for racing stripes

you hate to see it, but that is a hard needle to thread in Georgia (v much incl Atlanta)

Yeah, Atlantans (especially, let's say, north of I-20) are squawking mightily about crime. Kemp is making it a campaign issue and, of course, branding the Democrats as "soft on crime."

A thoughtful approach would not default to "more police," but this is politics.

I get it. It’s still shameful.

Countering "soft on crime" with "we love cops, don't we folks" is an incredibly ineffective strategy.

She did have the wherewithal to pair better pay with community trust and police accountability.

should have known that when the left managed a few victories in the Obama era (legalized gay marriage, "kinda" universal health care), that in exchange everything would turn into a John Milius movie a decade later.

cops get paid an enormous amount of money, that’s part of why it’s so frustrating: the basic premise is an absolute lie.

good reaction to 'soft on crime' would be "HEY COULD MAYBE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY COPS ACTUALLY COP AT AN ACTIVE SHOOTER SCENARIO TARGETING AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? or maybe quit leaving a domestic dispute by telling the battered woman "figure it out"? or not laugh at a rape victim? hmm?
are these big asks?"

“Let me state a policy position based on an absolute lie, that ought to restore faith in me and my party.”

The bulk of the Georgia electorate does not care about these finer points. They see headlines about people getting shot in Buckhead in broad daylight and conclude that Something Must Be Done.

I was a bit blind to how pervasive cop fetishism was in this country in my 20s.

then two years ago, the father of this kid defriended me over my criticisms of the police: https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2021/05/29/seminole-county-boy-runs-900-miles-in-honor-of-fallen-officers

we'd been very friendly previously, as he was a sweet man, but dude went down a thin blue line rabbit hole. and him indoctrinating his kid into this, well fuck

The bulk of the Georgia electorate does not care about these finer points. They see headlines about people getting shot in Buckhead in broad daylight and conclude that Something Must Be Done.

Yes, but the problem is that playing into that doesn't work for Democrats. Kinda like nominating a 'war hero' against a 'draft dodger' didn't matter.

I agree, it makes the Democrats look like weak sauce Republicans. Not sure what the alternative is, though.

A political party that didn't give up on ideas for improving the lives of citizens in 1977.

In 2022, such a party would be doomed to obscurity.

Biden, in a statement on the Supreme Court guns decision sent to reporters by email: "I call on Americans across the country to make their voices heard on gun safety. Lives are on the line."

— Edward-Isaac Dovere (@IsaacDovere) June 23, 2022

You Guys Should Definitely Do Something About It is a bold midterm strategy.

OK, I won't do something about it.

Alfred, you must admit that there is something funny about the President of the United States saying “someone should do something about all the problems.”

look buddy you took the damn job