once-common words people don’t use anymore

BTW, "gay" is 19th century. It was originally a general word for the sexual underground that had narrowed into a term for just the same-sex portion by 1905.

I call people posers all the time, someone has to uphold the ideals that Manowar laid out for us

Frogbs, I know a fair number of teenagers; i don't think they use it that way anymore.

But I hasten to note that all the teenagers I know are gay

I await the return of "boss" to describe something superlative, fantastic, amazing, splendid.

No, it will be “worker” instead

The children's mystery book "Something Queer Is Going On" (1973) is the only non-queer association I have ever had with the word in my life, I think. Like I really don't remember ever hearing it out loud, although that's the kind of thing where memory could be very unreliable.

― Doctor Casino

and even that book series is only _arguably_ non-queer, depending on one's opinion on whether or not children's books can be "queer-coded"

one of my favorite things is watching outtake reels from the 1930s and 1940s. most of the expletives are still in common use as expletives today, but one very much is not: "Ah, nuts!", which was clearly formerly spoken in the same context and with the same intonation as "Son of a bitch!"

there's another epithet i'd totally forgotten until i started reading the 1992 archives of the usenet group alt.transgendered. posters there complain often about being called "pantywaists". i mean, i was alive for this, i remember this, people actually called effeminate AMABs "pantywaists" in fucking _1992_. how bizarre is that?

The Hays Code literally forbade "nuts" as an interjection in Hollywood films from 1939 into the 1960s. (The word made it into some pre-1939 films).

I just watched Auntie Mame (1958) recently and in it iirc there's a gag about Mame (Rosalind Russell) almost saying it. She's characterized as having a tart tongue.

a quick search on twitter shows that "pantywaist" is still in vogue on the right

I await the return of "boss" to describe something superlative, fantastic, amazing, splendid.

Still very popular around Liverpool.

my 5 year old has been hanging out with his grandfather and now says "rats" when something doesn't go his way

my dad would say "Rats! R.. A.. T.. Z... RATZ!"

Does anything get called "crud" these days?

literally every one of my co-workers says "crud" as an substitute for an expletive and I have one friend who calls her allergies the "creeping crud" which is almost enough for me to write her out of my will if I a) had a will and b) if she had been in it to begin with

a quick search on twitter shows that "pantywaist" is still in vogue on the right

― rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes)

maybe it's taken seriously regionally, or something. or maybe it's just another "the right being completely out of touch with reality" thing, idk.

creeping crud is a contagious disease, c'mon coworker

so let it be written
so let it be done
i've got a case of creeping crud

Frogbs, I know a fair number of teenagers; i don't think they use it that way anymore.

But I hasten to note that all the teenagers I know are gay

― Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, June 22, 2022 8:18 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

hah

just speaking from personal experience but I'm amazed how many teens I meet now who are openly queer in some direction, I mean good for them obviously but this also means a lot of the people I went to high school with were also that way but couldn't express it or be open about it. I have a couple friends/acquaintances who are struggling with their identity right now which strikes me as not what you wanna be doing in your 30s

friends with benefits should be replaced by friends without obligations to mean the opposite, a far more privileged status

"i say that one, but only because I'm a theatre person ,and that godawful Annie Get Your Gun was one of the first musicals I did, which features the lyric "even with a turkey that you know will fold", and that stuck with me as a 16 year old.

I'm probably the only person who still says it though.

― Doop Snogg (Neanderthal)"

with god as my witness, i thought turkeys could fly

now _that_ one, nobody fucking remembers that anymore

"Frogbs, I know a fair number of teenagers; i don't think they use it that way anymore.

But I hasten to note that all the teenagers I know are gay

― Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin)"

oh god not _quite_ on topic for thread but i love so much the way kids these days use the term "gay panic". when they use it it's like "i'm a disaster lesbian and this girl is super fucking hot and i'm mentally keysmashing trying to figure out how to tell her how hot she is". god, i know the us is a dystopia and the world is a pile of shit and things have literally never been as brutal for trans people as they are now but i'm still so fucking _happy_, one might say _gay_ even, over stuff like that.

Apparently my use of the word “necking” (to mean extended, passionate kissing) marks me firmly as a Gen-X-er, as firmly as the use of “groovy” might mark a certain kind of boomer. I had no idea it wasn’t in circulation anymore.

it's called neckflix and chilling now

Is 'snogging' still a term in use (I guess in the UK only)?

Apparently my use of the word “necking” (to mean extended, passionate kissing) marks me firmly as a Gen-X-er, as firmly as the use of “groovy” might mark a certain kind of boomer. I had no idea it wasn’t in circulation anymore.

is 'scromping' still a word

I don't think I've heard anyone refer to making out as "necking" since the 1990s. These days, I think of it more in the British (?) sense of pouring a bottle of alcohol down your throat.

One notable thing is that the f-word above has become utterly unspeakable. It's as unusable as the n-word. I don't miss it. No loss, as far as I am concerned, but it's an interesting development.

"Queer" as an LGBTQIA+ catchall appears to still be viable and useful, at least as far as I can tell.

― I am just a squirrel in the world (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, May 29, 2022 5:20 AM (four weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

I just want to point out that this is perhaps true for your queer child, YMP, but my fag friends and I toss around the "f" word all the time, because we're fucking faggots and damn proud of it, too.

I mean, really, it's one of those words that has been reclaimed by those it was initially meant to oppress, tho there is some disagreement about the validity of the reclamation. If I'm around queer people, I'll use it without thinking about it, but that's because I don't fuck with tenderqueer language police types and anyone who'd get annoyed at me for using the word "fag" or "faggot" isn't someone I want to know, anyway.

Apparently my use of the word “necking” (to mean extended, passionate kissing) marks me firmly as a Gen-X-er,

I think it's even more specific than that because I'm sort of a central gen-X-er and that usage to me is definitely "I know what it means but it's a little old-fashioned and I wouldn't say it myself." I am of the "making out" age cohort.

is anyone in a real pickle anymore?

I just want to point out that this is perhaps true for your queer child, YMP, but my fag friends and I toss around the "f" word all the time, because we're fucking faggots and damn proud of it, too.

― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table)

for me that word is one of the challenging ones. i still struggle sometimes over whether i can call myself a "dyke". there are some words within the trans community that cause similar amounts of strife, including, interestingly enough, "transsexual".

i'm late gen-x and i'm definitely of the "hey wanna make out" persuasion

"is anyone in a real pickle anymore?

― Andy the Grasshopper"

only if we're on spiro

There should be a special category for "once-common words people don’t use anymore, but which you adopted at some point as an affectation, and then accidentally made it part of your normal speech," which for me includes both saying "in a pickle" and greeting people with "howdy"

kate, fwiw, one of my best friends edited the Lou Sullivan diaries, and he and i have had some long conversations about the word and how some people become upset when he uses it— but he still identifies as a trans faggot. I’m not trans, but I understand why ymmv regarding the “f” word or the “d” word— my main thing is that self-identification is really important when thinking about language in this way, and I am definitely not “gay” and feel somewhat estranged from current use of the word “queer” except as a general umbrella term. so, for me, fag or faggot it is.

Graduated from high school in ‘86 so I’m deeply Gen-X, and I can state confidently that I’ve never used the expression “necking,” nor can I imagine my peers doing so. It sounds very ‘50s/‘60s to my ears. Maybe we’re talking about a regional difference?

It was always “making out” ftr

yeah i wanna be clear i'm not saying you're doing anything wrong for self-IDing as.. look i'm gonna put one of those spoilers in because i'm gonna get heavy into direct discussion of slurs:

(i'll just say the word a "faggot", i got a friend (who incidentally is a _huge_ fan of the lou sullivan diaries, really inspired by them) who does call herself a "tranny" and i'm 100% behind that, she's reclaiming a term of abuse, she'll really engage with a lot of these idea of reclamation, "brick", "trannyfag", you name it, there's room for that. just - and you know One Thread, this dovetails with my last post to the LGBTQ+ kids thread - to state the obvious, i would take offense if anybody called me personally a "fag" or a "faggot".

"necking" sounds like something from Laverne & Shirley, or American Graffiti

definitely something one does at the malt shop or the drive-in while listening to an early beach boys song

and 'heavy petting' happens at lover's lane

It's funny, the East Bay Hills are chock-full of old lover's lanes - i.e. overlook parking lots with faint parking spot paint, a view of the valley, etc... but they're almost all blocked off and now have tall eucalyptus trees obscuring whatever view used to be there. Not sure why they became obsolete, maybe it's the Zodiac Killer's fault

I don’t know if Brits still use the word snogging but even here in the USA, anyone whose kids have read the Harry Potter books have certainly had their share of that word

Also, all the kids who watched Angus, Thongs, and Perfect Snogging on Nickelodeon.

still refuse to believe that snogging is not a thing you do with your nose

I mean ya CAN

Angus Thongs & Perfect Snogging is the greatest film of all time

we used to call them... ah, shit, the thing we used to call them is probably racist too? and it'd probably still be racist even if i swapped out the words because i don't know that the inuit and/or first peoples actually snog that way

think my secondary school days coincide exactly with harry potter's (1990-1997) and I don't think I heard anyone say "snogging", it was always "getting off (with)" (not that I did any of this during this time, or much at uni for that matter) - just yet another way that JKR's squeamish descriptions of teenage sexuality in 90s Britain are bad and wrong.

"Common Law"

xxxp Is there a quote from Jane Fonda in I think Klute along the lines of 'I don't know how to kiss what do you do with the noses?'
remember it but can't find it. May have film wrong but makes sense since it's rumoured to be a thing that prostitutes don't do with customers.

It's Ingrid Bergman in For Whom The Bell Tolls
"For Whom the Bell Tolls (1943)

"Where Do the Noses Go?"

Director Sam Wood's film was a version of Ernest Hemingway's novel of the same name, set in Spain during its civil war in 1937.

Before an ill-fated ending, the two main characters experienced a famous kissing scene between them:

expatriate American demolition expert and mercenary Robert "Ingles" Jordan (Gary Cooper), fighting with the anti-fascist Republican (or Loyalist) guerrillas against Franco's nationalistic forces
blue-eyed, short-haired, innocent, rescued peasant woman Maria (Ingrid Bergman), a victim of the conflict

After he cradled her head, she laughed as she told him:

"I like - I don't know how to kiss or I would kiss you. Where do the noses go? Always I wonder where the noses will go. (He gave her a quick peck on the lips) They're not in the way, are they? I always thought they would be in the way. (She kissed him) Look, I can do it myself. (She kissed him again)...Oh, did I do it wrong?"

To prove that she was kissing him correctly, he grabbed her for another kiss."

the Klute thing I may be confusing it with cos it was on the same page of quotes when I saw it is the thing about her offering Donald Sutherland a Freebie and how you could get a perfectly good dishwasher for that.

snog and get off with were both used in the 90s ime although more the latter than the former.

when I was in Dublin in 1996 a girl asked me if I knew what "snogging" was because she thought it was Irish slang that I wouldn't understand (this wasn't a veiled attempt at a chat up line - the context was she was talking to the group about someone snogging someone else)

gett snogged, twenty-three positions in a one-night stand