naked city
stray dog
un flic
breathless
d.o.a.
touch of evil
la confidential
double indemnity is basically the best movie ever made imo
― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 26 July 2009 08:27 (sixteen years ago)
Unmentioned To Have and Have Not is my favorite film of all time.
― Mordy, Sunday, 26 July 2009 08:36 (sixteen years ago)
glad Scarlet Street was mentioned.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XUWgyi9favs/SkJ4nNGCnPI/AAAAAAAABgQ/FVEMdeQwJBI/s1600-h/act+of+violence.jpgAct of Violence wasn't and has some pretty cool stuff going on too.
― Ludo, Sunday, 26 July 2009 08:50 (sixteen years ago)
For no reason I can think of, I've been getting into noir of late. Last week I rented The Big Sleep, which was excellent if incomprehensible. I've since added In A Lonely Place and The Maltese Falcon to my Lovefilm list.And on friday I bought this Chandler novel:http://www.detective-fiction.com/4salepix/chandlerfarewell.jpg
― DavidM, Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:01 (sixteen years ago)
me too, but i bought the film noir collection! all great films. love alan ladd in these.
― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Sunday, 26 July 2009 10:28 (sixteen years ago)
The Maltese Falcon, which I could watch on a loop forever
― Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac), Monday, 27 July 2009 15:37 (sixteen years ago)
It's nearly perfect.
― ENBB, Monday, 27 July 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)
I got to see most of the Noir City festival earlier this year - looks like they are playing Chicago later this week. Opening night was a double-bill of 2 newspaper noir classics: Deadline USA and Scandal Sheet. The Big Sleep is the best ever though.
― Jaq, Monday, 27 July 2009 16:02 (sixteen years ago)
I think Night and the City is my favorite movie, noir or otherwise. Picked up a Chandler collection from the library and so far it's fantastic. Never read him before.
― mile high guy (brownie), Monday, 27 July 2009 16:05 (sixteen years ago)
Chandler is probably my favorite writer ever. Everyone needs to get to The Long Goodbye eventually.
― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 August 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)
btw just watched Red Rock West last night, it was a fun little western noir with nick cage and jt walsh and dennis hopper all hamming it up. it felt like a showtime adaptation of a jim thompson novel.
― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 August 2009 00:03 (sixteen years ago)
Oh yeah, I got to see In A Lonely Place last Friday. Not quite the film I was expecting it to be, but a good film nontheless. What an ending!
― DavidM, Monday, 3 August 2009 14:03 (sixteen years ago)
Movie Madness's film noir collection was like crack to me when I was studying in Portland, OR. The bulk of the most choice noirs have been mentioned already.
A few which haven't that immediately come to mind:
Ride the Pink Horse (massively underrated because it hasn't got a DVD release - would make a great double bill w/ Touch of Evil)Sunset Blvd (obviously not at all underrated but nobody's listed it yet - do you guys not consider it noir?)Touchez pas au grisbi (Jean Gabin classic, also see Pépé le Moko)On Dangerous Ground (Robert Ryan was never better)
Also very good:
His Kind of Woman (Mitchum and Russell reunited!)Kiss of Death (Widmark pushes infirm down stairs)Sweet Smell of Success (badass Burt Lancaster)Criss Cross (probably Siodmak's best)
The Narrow Margin is highly rated by some, but it's not in the top tier for me.
Sui generis but essential and noirish in their own ways:
Johnny GuitarVertigo
FYI, my absolute top four:
Out of the PastTouch of EvilThe KillingKiss Me Deadly
― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Monday, 3 August 2009 19:34 (sixteen years ago)
with noirs i always get mixed up with titles, all the noirs blend into one for me.
for example, what is the noir with a guy half-dead and dying at the beginning, relating his story in some kind of office, maybe even a tape-recorder (nah?) a typewriter hmm. i am sure it's famous.
― Ludo, Monday, 3 August 2009 19:42 (sixteen years ago)
Ludo, sounds like it might be the previously mentioned awesome classic Double Indemnity, but there are a lot of noirs that have that sort of structure.
anyone seen Detour? I think its a great one that doesn't seem to get mentioned often.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 3 August 2009 19:54 (sixteen years ago)
oops, i just ctrl+Fed Detour and i see its already been mentioned a few times...
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 3 August 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)
exactly. i think that's the one though. it was one of the first noirs i saw. (ah it's a dictaphone!)
― Ludo, Monday, 3 August 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)
DOA has the dying guy sitting in an office with a police officer explaining how he came to be dying.
― When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Monday, 3 August 2009 23:52 (sixteen years ago)
Double Indemnity?
― ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Monday, 3 August 2009 23:53 (sixteen years ago)
Absolutely it is. Double Indemnity is one of the top five noirs ever. Probably my #1.
― reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Monday, 3 August 2009 23:56 (sixteen years ago)
Sorry, "films noir."
Ebert is very good on it: "Standing back from the film and what it expects us to think, I see them engaged not in romance or theft, but in behavior. They're intoxicated by their personal styles. Styles learned in the movies, and from radio and the detective magazines. It's as if they were invented by Ben Hecht through his crime dialogue. Walter and Phyllis are pulp characters with little psychological depth, and that's the way Billy Wilder wants it. His best films are sardonic comedies, and in this one, Phyllis and Walter play a bad joke on themselves."
― reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 00:00 (sixteen years ago)
anyone know if Key Largo features the song 'Moanin' Low' in full or just a brief extract?
― unban dictionary (blueski), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
Just watched Sudden Fear. Worth it for Joan Crawfords facial expressions and Jack Palances acting.
― Grady Sizemore's elbow (brownie), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)
Young Jack Palance in that and 'Panic in the Streets' looks like an Easter Island statue come to life.
― When two tribes go to war, he always gets picked last (James Morrison), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 00:01 (sixteen years ago)
Double Indemnity, sure as ten dimes will buy a dollar
― Stop wishing death on people just for the cool thread titles (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)
totally just watched Rififi...it's great! i wondered how they'd sustain it after the heist sequence...the second half of the film is even better, even more engrossing. the bit where the money was delivered and Tony clearly didn't give a fuck about it any longer = noirest of noir
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:04 (sixteen years ago)
Carl Mohner dedicated a painting to me once.
― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:06 (sixteen years ago)
Am watching Kurosawa's Stray Dog tonight.
― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:07 (sixteen years ago)
Will be watching Le Cercle Rouge tomorrow. Saw Un Flic a few weeks back, and absolutely adored it. The stylish brilliance of the crooks. The mechanical, self-denying inexorability of the cop. Crime glorified in a way that only serves to heighten its tragedy, only serves to emphasise its ultimate folly. Morality plays, as they should be told.
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:23 (sixteen years ago)
I need to get Un Flic next week. Have you watched Le Samourai yet?
― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:32 (sixteen years ago)
not yet but it is in the offing
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:38 (sixteen years ago)
All time fave tbh
― BIG HOOS's wacky crack variety hour (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:38 (sixteen years ago)
Am slightly annoyed that said friend watched it the other night with a mutual friend. Will have to borrow it. He's generally not averse to re-watching films, mind.
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:39 (sixteen years ago)
I love Double Indemnity, but it's too glossy and clean to be as purely noir as, eg, Out of the Past.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:41 (sixteen years ago)
xpost
Even though I watched it on a beat-up VHS copy, IMO the most perfectly realized noir-ish Melville is Le Deuxieme Souffle.
― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:52 (sixteen years ago)
Morbs - there's one line of yours concerning film that I really dig - the one about a film's greatness being assured if it still works well with the dialogue removed. This kind of film strikes me as the sort for which this might actually be truer than in other cases. Would you say that the best films noir stand up without their dialogue, in practice?
(cheers mr goethe)
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 03:53 (sixteen years ago)
Forgot to mention, but I watched The Big Heat a couple days ago. That was some gritty shit. I don't remember Bogie ever dealing with a dead wife, a mob moll with disfiguring facial burns, dead hookers, etc etc.
― Jesus H. Crap (kenan), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)
Panic in the Streets is really great.
― free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:21 (sixteen years ago)
Un Flic I found not as good as the others, but still fun and stylish. But that train sequence...get one budget!
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:24 (sixteen years ago)
the helicopter model attached to visible wires represents the impossibility of crime except as an artificial fantasy, dude
in all srsnss, scene is carried off by the acting and the in-train filming
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:25 (sixteen years ago)
*impossibility of SUCH a crime, even
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 04:36 (sixteen years ago)
This is such a boy genre.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 09:24 (sixteen years ago)
ilx's own Lauren P would beg to differ.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:35 (sixteen years ago)
cm, especially with the chiaroscuro lighting effects usually featured, sure.
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:39 (sixteen years ago)
Great, now I have to use Google! ;)
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:41 (sixteen years ago)
the starkly separated pools of light & shadow
― Indiana Morbs and the Curse of the Ivy League Chorister (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:43 (sixteen years ago)
Jane Greer, oh brother!
http://voiceover.blogdiario.com/img/outofthepast.jpeg
― Aw naw, no' Annoni oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:45 (sixteen years ago)
Yep, got it! When done well (Night Of The Hunter, anyone?) that technique can be dazzlingly tense.
― cockles (country matters), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:47 (sixteen years ago)
The protaganist in this movie is the like the angel of death. Every woman he comes in contact with dies.
― ussr (brownie), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 13:53 (sixteen years ago)