The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

she (the twitter person) got detained not long after :(

Hmmmm

UPDATE: Police say 31 people arrested, charged with conspiracy to riot. Chief Lee White says the group appears to be Patriot Front based on patches, clothing and documents found during the search of the uhaul. Police found shields, shin guards and 1 smoke grenade.

— Kyle Simchuk (@KyleSimchuk) June 11, 2022

Every Pride parade in America just gained a whole new battalion of police security whether they want it or not.

love that these dimbulbs are being BUSSED IN to start shit. every spooky scary conservative talking point is just accusing the opposition this thing that they’re actually doing/ going to do

Well, yeah.

one of the arrested dudes was wearing a hat w the betsy ross flag on it, dont these mfers have enough symbolism already ffs

the goddamn nazis collected symbolism like a velour sofa collects dog hair. it's like cheap hooch for populist-nationalist-authoritarian-besotted movements.

i know its trite to say but i really hate it

I know that part of the country pretty well and the most shocking thing about this to me is that the cops actually arrested the fascists

yeah 100%

Although the more I think about it arresting people for threatening a pride parade is much more plausible than if they had been threatening a BLM parade.

love that these dimbulbs are being BUSSED IN to start shit.

This was in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho, which is kind of becoming a mecca for white nationalists (again!), who apparently regarded a pride parade happening there as a "declaration of war"

The white nationalists are pretty openly trying to take over Idaho at this point.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/12/senate-gun-deal-framework/

Will 10 Republicans eventually vote for this baby steps bipartisan "gun" deal --would encourage states to establish “red flag” laws that allow authorities to keep guns away from people found by a judge to represent a potential threat to themselves or others, while federal criminal background checks for gun buyers under 21 would include a mandatory search of juvenile justice records for the first time....Other provisions could funnel billions of new federal dollars into mental health care and school security programs, funding new campus infrastructure and armed officers. Several senators last week said they expected one cornerstone of the deal would be legislation sponsored by Sens. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) and Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) to establish a nationwide network of “community behavioral health clinics.”

NOT in bill-- ban on assault weapons, high-capacity ammunition magazine restrictions and broad background check expansions, raise the minimum age for the purchase of at least some rifles from 18 to 21.

A House bill that passed includes background check expansions, and raising age but Senate Republicans won't consider this bill

The white nationalists are pretty openly trying to take over Idaho at this point.

guns don't kill people, senators kill people xp

Will 10 Republicans eventually vote for this

I seriously doubt it. By now they are petrified of being labeled as 'anti-gun' and they will run away screaming in terror rather than vote for any restrictions, no matter how trivial.

I see no reason that they won’t. The senate bill, as I’ve seen summarized, does virtually to curtail gun ownership. It has a voluntary “red flag” grant program that is easy to imagine becoming completely useless, and another tool for systematic racism in some states. It doesn’t do anything to prevent an angry person from going to a store and legally buying enough weapons and ammo to kill hundreds of people.

At the same time, a vast majority of people, when many conservatives, want something done. They’ll be able to get 10 votes because this is a way for them to appear to do something while actually doing nothing at all

Permanently typing on phone, many typos

here is the optimistic view of what's in the bill:

🚨NEWS: We have a deal. Today a bipartisan group of 20 Senators (10 D and 10 R) is announcing a breakthrough agreement on gun violence - the first in 30 years - that will save lives.

I think you’ll be surprised at the scope of our framework.

1/ Here’s what it includes:

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) June 12, 2022

haven't seen the full list of 10 republicans, but here are some:

9/ So grateful to @JohnCornyn @kyrstensinema @SenThomTillis @SenToomey @Sen_JoeManchin @SenBlumenthal @SenatorCollins @LindseyGrahamSC @ChrisCoons @TeamHeinrich @BillCassidy and others for their amazing work to get us this far.

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) June 12, 2022

The list

In addition to the core four negotiators, the legislation is backed by Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), Bill Cassidy (R-La.), Chris Coons (D-Del.), Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.), Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Richard Burr (R-N.C.), Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), Angus King (I-Maine), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Mitt Romney (R-Utah) and Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.). Portman, Toomey, Blunt and Burr are all retiring at the end of the year.

Funding for mental health clinics is good. It has nothing to do with limiting gun violence, but it is good anyway. Allowing it to be labeled as a gun violence limiting measure plays into the false Republican narrative, which whitewashes their nonsense, but at least it salvages something positive before the sense of crisis abates.

Funding for mental health clinics is good. It has nothing to do with limiting gun violence, but it is good anyway.

While the available research points to the obvious fact that most gun violence is not committed by those with a mental health diagnosis, programs in conflict resolution, mental health awareness, and community building have had a decent track record in steering people away from violence. Just saying.

The white nationalists are pretty openly trying to take over Idaho at this point.

yeah, i didn't realize that uhaul had people from across the country in it. Two of them were from near St. Louis (one of them hails from the patriotic town of FREEBURG)

Every school gets a SWAT team so that fights between fourth graders can be stopped with flashbangs and rubber bullets.

11. Provides the Republican's a fig leaf to protect against attacks that they haven't done anything on gun control.

10 AM ET, let’s get it crackin’.

lol Bill Stepien is no longer testifying because his wife just went into labor. Good timing.

Send some federak marshals over to check her dilation

*federal

Stepien is also the campaign advisor for Liz Cheney's opponent in the Wyoming house election (only one seat). and of course, her opponent is all-in on Stolen Election shit

.@Liz_Cheney: “You will also hear testimony President Trump rejected the advice of his campaign experts on election night, and instead followed the course recommended by an apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani, to just claim he won.” pic.twitter.com/3mUfxkcBYx

— The Republican Accountability Project (@AccountableGOP) June 13, 2022

the still image of Bill Stepien is hilarious

"Just another day."

xpost was just about to post that neanderthal. love that they went with this one, excellent shot

https://i.imgur.com/cZ1eYAk.png

What do you mean, "apparently," Congresswoman?

hilarious to listen to kushner try to recount, out loud, what he thought about the stolen election claims. it was very hard for him. very hard.

why is it never mentioned, in the context of the big lie/stolen election stuff, that trump claimed widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election? remember? "3 million votes"? he won by 3 million votes if you really counted...something?

i know it's big and dumb and obvious, but isn't the existence of a very similar lie, 4 years earlier, deployed almost on accident, as if he expected to lose (which he did, by the popular vote, by millions of vote) and planned beforehand to allege election fraud? in 2016? and he did it anyway?

this is all so fucking dumb i can't breathe

could trump have possibly been involved in perpetuating a gigantic lie about election fraud to the american public, to the point of cheering on henchmen to murder mike pence (who really, really deserves to be murdered more than almost anyone)?

geeeeeee i don't know!!!!

*puckers lips out and and drags index finger rapidly up and down across it to make cartoon noises*

Good point Karl

I know that this is acting as some sort of cathartic exercise for you, KM, but it might actually be a good idea to *stop* following what's going on in this horse and pony show.

i've actually barely been following the news this year

I had watched/listened to none of this until this morning for a few minutes. I think they're laying out the (very obvious) allegations calmly, rationally, and logically, with none of the grandstanding you sometimes see in these things. Numerous people telling Trump his fraud allegations were bullshit, juxtaposed with audio clips of him ranting on Fox about "DUMPS! THEY CALL THEM DUMPS! MASSIVE... DUMPS! IT'S... A VERY TERRIBLE THING..." in the weeks after the election makes it clear to me how he could convince a bunch of his most brain dead minions to storm the capitol. But I would think that, I guess...

PS: Just having to hear that fucker's voice again made me turn it off.

"An apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani" is the new "30 to 50 feral hogs". https://t.co/PGYJQ5EKCI

— Andrew Mueller (@andrew_mueller) June 13, 2022

I was thinking about that too Karl - it was so obvious that no matter how badly he lost he was going to call fraud and create some real problems. Sometimes you have to give the way a wide latitude but sometimes he’s the most predictable man on the planet. The entire run up to the election he was blatantly fucking with the mail for no reason other than to manufacture the “red mirage” that literally every election pundit knew was gonna happen! How is there any question to this at all??

I think we should borrow from the Brits phrase "tired and emotional" in place of "stinking drunk."

i remember telling a family member, over a year before the election, that he was going to lose and never, ever shut up about how it was stolen. even then, a year before the election, he was already saying it was going to be stolen. i remember because i think i made a joke here (and elsewhere) that he was telling the truth, it really was going to be stolen, and he was going to try to steal it, the classic trump/conservative projection, etc

the hearings are essential because they put together a picture of what actually happened, all in one place. there's been a lot of reporting on the whole thing, of course, before it happened, the day it happened, and ever since. but so much of what we've learned since 1/6/21 has been related to testimony/evidence collected via this committee's investigation. so it is unquestionably (i think) a good thing for this to happen, to lay out what they know, even if we already know a lot about it.

however, there are 3 separate groups of people involved here. a big one is anyone who paid attention to what happened around that time and isn't a complete liar. a second are the maga people, republicans, conservatives, people who tune out this kind of hearing in order to hear fox instead, on purpose.

the third is all the people who have absolutely no idea what is going on and will never care. this won't get to them, either.

so, yes, all of this is pointless on some level. it's essential on one level that counts and completely meaningless on another which also, brutally, counts

In some ways, it’s the third group that scares me most.