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yeah me too, very much that vibe

very "space wants to kill you"

the whole time i was like this is exactly why space tourism wigs me out - when shit goes wrong in space it goes wrong in twelve ways simultaneously

otm

Good return! I agree parts of it felt a bit more like your usual episode of the week sci-fi show, but it kept me on the edge anyway, because I would not have put it past the show to kill everybody in the cast in the first episode.

lol dark but true

I wondered for a sec, but it’s not that show

spoiler re: our newlywed probably otm

it’s insanely classic tv drama that the kid of the lovestruck martyrs has this kind of episode (for both kids, maybe) but it’s a heroic trope nobody does anymore! I feel like there are a lot of things about this show that seem par for the course in 80s shows that don’t get used regularly now

I was thinking about all the Trek veterans on the production side of this show (mostly in a "Why can't nu Trek be this good?" way) but maybe those old tropes are a product of writers who've been around that long.

i def think that has a lot to do with it
plus the shifted time setting maybe means they can play with those kinds of plotlines in a pastiche kind of way without being so heavyhanded about it

Yeah, I think the jumps in time have been genius, and allow for tons of flexibility. Whenever they want, they can essentially just skip a season or two and land wherever they want to, plot-wise.

If I was doing the soundtrack for this series it would be very tempting to try to remix the tracks used, a different world history leading to different artistic outcomes.

Very simple but I loved the science explainer of saying climbing the ladder in 2G is like climbing carrying another you. Of course Danny makes it but that looked like a long exhausting climb.

with Sam dying and Ed fighting with his significant other, are we setting up a return to the Ed & Karen show? with a jealous Danny in the mix?

Plus cool visual at the end of the episode.

I think those two characters are going to get backgrounded, tbh. This was the realization that they had their moment, maybe K gets involved in some hearings or advocacy

I’ve only made it up to the intro credits, but if they do a real afrofuturism arc in this show, this week in tv has made me feel that mainstream serial fiction is doing ok

lol nope, they might try a curveball but this no-hierarchy thing is going to be another tragedy arc

I thought this was the weakest FAM episode since...maybe ever? Just not very interesting. The Ellen kid reveal probably the most complex moment. "Non-hierarchical organisation in space" is a kind of interesting prospect I guess.

very much not here for Karen/Danny content

Jesus Christ that bald cap.

early-90s space google??

All posts otm

Although even though it wasn’t an exciting episode rather much more of an expositional episode, I didn’t experience it as particularly weak. Now wondering WTF is up with Aleida’s husband.

bring back Wayne

Yeah, was wondering about him. Assume they are saving him for some especially dark Molly moment.

Didn't think this was a weak episode at all, setting up a whole bunch of interesting drama that finds way to avoid more US versus Russia tropes. Now it's US versus private industry, which, along with some other political stuff, is the first time the show seems to be leaning into a parallel track with current events.

Objected to Smashing Pumpkins bit - that song didnt come out til a year later dammit. Unless I spose you cant kvetch about that stuff being as its alt history.

I’ve kind of learned to tune out the musical selections on this show to the extent possible, one of the few obvious consistent flaws.

There is a pleasing and accurate beige and oyster-grey 90s blandness that they've nailed in the sets this time around.

I feel like they learned something from the Season 2 startup tbh.

Didn't S2 end with a Nirvana cue?

Yeah but that was to set up the jump to the 90s

If anything it might have overshot the mark, right? Doesn't S2 end with boots on Mars? Which means (I guess theoretically) that S2 "ends" in the later '90s, past S3. Anyway, yeah, this is alternate history, maybe in this world Siamese Dream came out a year earlier.

Josh, I do sometimes wonder if you watch all these shows whilst distracted on your phone or something.

S2 ends with boots on the moon, Nirvana's Come As You Are playing and 1995 in big fucking numbers on the screen

lol, sometimes! But I just watched it again, this second, and no, S2 ends with them on Mars! The song starts and the camera approaches the moon, it shoots *past* the moon in space (wby would S2 end with the moon, anyway?), toward Mars/red planet, it reaches the surface, and then you see a pair of boots of unknown nationality take a step forward.

Yeah, I meant boots on Mars.

It was a cliffhanger/teaser ending showing that S3 would be set in the 90s and all about the race to Mars

Yeah, that I got. I meant as far as year signifiers go, "Come as You Are" is off by a couple of years (forward), too. Should have been "This is How We Do It."

I guess it was just letting the audience know we're now in the 90s (before the 1995 flashes up).

The whole show is an alternative timeline anyway so it doesn't really bother me if they're a couple of years out musically.

smdh can't believe they showed the beatles reunion tour in the mid 80s when we all know it happened in 89

Mars ain’t the kind of place to raise your kid

Kids

Sorry. In a coffee shop and hearing an enjoyable playlist of well-worn 60s but mostly 70s favorites, thinking how they are used up for any future soundtrack appearances so might well appear on FAM. Currently playing: “Spirit in the Sky.”

“Behind Blue Eyes”! This episode is writing itself.

so they have set up [Danny & Danielle (plus Margo) vs Ed & Karen (plus new age tech guy and hopefully Molly)]. It has some interesting possibilities least interesting of which is the love triangle. Will be annoying if that takes up a lot of screen time in future episodes.

format fail, sorry

Failure not an option iirc

Unfortunately I think that the love triangle is going to be a thing this season.

either Danny has to rescue Ed or vice versa, and we have to watch him take a long time to decide whether he's going to do it

hadn't thought that though but makes sense, yeah.

The show's been decent at setting up things where you think they're taking it one way but end up changing it up a bit, though

The profile picture for Wrenn Schmidt on IMDB is wildly different than her Margo look.

that's acting, baby!