Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

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hair is a bit ridiculous. is that a conscious trope, like presume original look wasn't much like that
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/Christopher_pike.jpg

Stevolende, Friday, 10 June 2022 20:07 (two years ago) link

Kirk's wasn't very vertical either, thought that might be it for a moment
[img]https://www.startrek.com/sites/default/files/styles/content_full/public/images/2019-07/89abe98de6071178edb1b28901a8f459.jpg?itok=UEwq0IRl[/img}

Anson Mount got a secret history as a psychobilly or something.
or is it more New Romantic?

Stevolende, Friday, 10 June 2022 20:34 (two years ago) link

stevo what on earth are you doing

in a general sense, not even star trek

i mean you read a bunch of cool stuff, but it seems to wash off you. can't even tell if you read the responses to any of your posts.

my suspicion is that you utterly rule but in like a kelpian way that we can't quite understand

anyway your latest messages are too arcane; please try again

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 June 2022 02:08 (two years ago) link

Trying to work out why Pike's hair is so raised, vertical in places like. Can't see earlier influences. thought that was clear.

There are people on the board that I would rather ignore because of past comments from them. I'm unlikely to take somebody else's opinion as verbatim fact when i can see flaws in what they are saying. There are a few people who I just do not want to engage with whatsoever. I have wondered if I should spend time pointing out why I am thinking things, where I have heard information being discussed. Or whether i should just be ignoring somebody I am just thinking is trolling because they like chestbeating. I think I have been tending to the latter recently.
& there does seem to be at least one person on the chatlist who thinks that if they say something to me I should just view it as the only way to see things. So I just ignore them and maybe other people see that as me refusing to capitulate to vital correct information that I am just seeing not to be the complete picture, and don't really want to engage with them because they are overbearing and not somebody I want to be spending my time on.

Reading washes off , gosh how judgmental. A bit projected peut etre?

Stevolende, Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:33 (two years ago) link

& if the images yesterday needed further explanation green guy is Gumby who i had seen on early morning tv in the States when I was there.
Pike's hair is on the wrong side but I did think the effect was similar. There was a black hairstyle a decade or so ago that really reminded me of him too. Angled natural haircut, may still be around.
https://menhairstylist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/10_Asymmetrical-High-Top-Haircut.jpg
is a more stylised version

Was there a close up of the front of Pike's hair in this week's show cos if so my first visual response was that bit of Something About Mary . Would think that might be a cliche comparison by now so a little surprised that needed explanation . But may be I'm making visual connections that aren't that possibly aren't taht immediate to everyone. Frame of reference etc.

I thought visual reference with hair may be something to do with the original character and can't see any cues that would lead to an exaggeration/charicaturisation like that, I didn't look at his hair when he had been stuck in the mobile chair thing after crashing on the planet. I can't see a hint of verticality in Kirk's hair either which would be another potential reference. kirk's doesn't seem to rise at all. Just look a bit greasy.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/johnnybravo/images/b/bb/Johnnyb001.gif/revision/latest?cb=20190421193227
is another possibly obvious comparison

Stevolende, Saturday, 11 June 2022 09:49 (two years ago) link

last image was Johnny Bravo btw.

Not sure what source of hairdo is , seems like it may be one of the stylists used by the show. Apparently Anson Mount is not an aesthete when it comes to personal styling.

Stevolende, Saturday, 11 June 2022 10:14 (two years ago) link

lol his hair IS kinda Johnny Bravo tho so i def see that lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 June 2022 16:32 (two years ago) link

Finally saw the first episode, it was corny and delightful, but I’m glad to hear it gets better. I kind of want them to wear new DNA disguises every week and turn the show into a space procedural.

Hot Spock seems to have gotten even hotter since Discovery, it’s almost distracting. Anyway he’s a huge improvement on Z Quinto’s Angry Spock.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 11 June 2022 18:34 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/gnSYUtu.jpg

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 June 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 June 2022 21:41 (two years ago) link

Did anyone else feel like the plot of the First Servant and how each of them ends up was reminiscent of the endstory in NK Jemesin's Broken Earth novels? they had a whole society held together and powered on basically the bodies/corpses of one of their races, buried into a giant tree or something.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 13 June 2022 11:45 (two years ago) link

There's an episode review over at Fanbyte that takes issue with the "do you SEE?!" ending. I get the non-interventionism and frustrations of Pike trying to argue against his hot alien lover lady, but the Federation is literally built on an ethos that's against exploitation and is posed as a post-scarcity society! These people can lord over the doctor with their superior technology, etc. but does all of that evaporate if they decide not to plug another kid into the child-wrecking machine?

I am also one of the people who immediately texted a friend, "Is it just me or does Pike's hair get bigger every episode?"

fwiw if you search for (white) men's hairstyles, these ridiculous pompadours come up all the time. I think it's definitely the dream of a certain type of hairstylist to see how big they can get that style and SNW's on-set talent are living their best professional life

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 15:01 (two years ago) link

can't find a photo of Chikabuma.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:08 (two years ago) link

Chikabuma has a haircut Pike would die for like.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link

yeah i thought of the link to 'the broken earth' too, but apparently the episode owes even more to an ursula le guin story (that i haven't read)

mookieproof, Monday, 13 June 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link

Ah, yes I'd heard there was a LeGuin ref - thats almost a complete rip!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

Oh Le Guin was the first person I thought of; having said that, what I liked about it is that it took the basic premise and twisted it just enough in different directions.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link

It was very well placed in the running order to be shocking, too. After last week's hijinks, with so many fun OST tropes in it, to have an episode that seemed like it was going to be a "what is kissing, Kirk?" style sort-of fun episode that went so very dark was jarring in a good way.

trishyb, Tuesday, 14 June 2022 07:59 (two years ago) link

Adam & Ben on the Greatest Discovery pod very early on hit upon a good neologism for the hair: “Pike-o-billy”

As opposed to the times when he’s just rocking the regular “Business Pike”

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 17:17 (two years ago) link

The higher the hair, the hornier he is?

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Tuesday, 14 June 2022 18:46 (two years ago) link

absolutely ridiculous episode this week in so many ways

5/5

mh, Thursday, 16 June 2022 19:48 (two years ago) link

Loving the guy from Banagher playing the main pirate. Fair play.

trishyb, Thursday, 16 June 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link

Yeah this was top flight. And that little ending kick! Last bit of OG lore I EVER expected them to embrace but here we are.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2022 23:46 (two years ago) link

could tell it was going to be an intense show when Pike's quiff shell got disarrayed. This after it seemed to be one solid wave all the way to the back of his head.

Stevolende, Friday, 17 June 2022 09:04 (two years ago) link

Jesse James Keitel was quite fun .
& I'm iuntrigued by prior history suggested by Una's response to Pike's attempting to put a plan into place.

Stevolende, Friday, 17 June 2022 09:12 (two years ago) link

Last bit of OG lore I EVER expected them to embrace but here we are.

I was surprised that I didn't remember anything about this, but once I looked it up, it all made sense. Star Trek V isn't exactly on regular rotation in our household.

trishyb, Friday, 17 June 2022 09:20 (two years ago) link

a very silly episode! stylistically felt almost like OG Battlestar Galactica at times, or maybe 1980s Buck Rogers - the catsuit woman and the space pirates

Genuine lol at the end reveal - but shit, why not - have fun with it

Truly enjoying the Spock/Chapel slash backstory vibes

Number One pretty epically under-utilised thus far

Already a bit preemptively sad about this season ending - and TBH I have some reservations about Kirk joining the show, I hope he is kept firmly on the sidelines - honestly I'm having so much fun with this crew/cast, really not super interested in a hot-headed alpha male stinking up the bridge (even if the show ends up critiquing the alpha male's hot-headedness)

the life of a rebo band is always intense (emsworth), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:55 (two years ago) link

Delightfully fun. More campy space pirates, please.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 June 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link

I'd watch a spin-off series about any of the main characters, such a wild change of pace vs. Discovery where I'd rather have my nails ripped out with pliers than watch a Suru series.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 June 2022 22:28 (two years ago) link

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy7z8a/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-is-the-best-of-what-television-used-to-be

Thought this was pretty good and accurate.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 June 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link

mr veg was mad (“of all the things to revist! UGH”) Star Trek V is def lame, i dont disagree but i am kind of excite?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 June 2022 23:12 (two years ago) link

oh and I loved when Pike was being beaten up & negotiates to cook for them - the way he looks up & just cheerfullt says “Kitchen?” -
felt a bit Shatner-esque, love his calm cockiness

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 June 2022 23:15 (two years ago) link

*cheerfully

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 June 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link

I’m expecting this will get me put in the village stockade, but my explanation for the casting of Number One (“Una”? really?) is that she was the only actor they could find who was as irritating as Jonathan Frakes.

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 June 2022 00:57 (two years ago) link

SUGGEST BAN hdu

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2022 01:56 (two years ago) link

The show is goofy cool though, and I am a fan of the Pike Soufflé

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 June 2022 02:33 (two years ago) link

also Ethan Peck gives me strong Kevin Spacey vibes but I expect that will earn a volley of FPs as well

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 June 2022 02:34 (two years ago) link

that’s it i’m calling the cops

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 June 2022 03:20 (two years ago) link


also Ethan Peck gives me strong Kevin Spacey vibes but I expect that will earn a volley of FPs as well

Yep, me too. I hate it, because before I noticed it I was really, really enjoying him, and now I'm not. I think I can push through, though, with a few more hijinks.

trishyb, Saturday, 18 June 2022 08:37 (two years ago) link

I think he transcends Spacey - I’m back to enjoying him now!

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 18 June 2022 12:59 (two years ago) link

Yeah this week was a hoot. At first Dr. Aspen showing up in that catsuit was obviously wtf but then I persuaded myself that maybe this was an SNW retcon where all Starfleet counsellors wear catsuits as a way to explain Troi's outfits.

I am glad that she got her heel turn because she got to chew some scenery.

I'm hardly a stan of TOS or its movies but I still squealed at the Sybok reveal anyway, because why not?

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Saturday, 18 June 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link

Her scenery chewing once she turned was a leeeetle bit too Batman villain for my taste! But I was also bothered by her weird outfit. tooo skeeeennyyy.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 20 June 2022 06:01 (two years ago) link

okay

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:08 (two years ago) link

If the entire cast chews the scenery how do you have any left?

This looks like it should be a holiday special or something.

Stevolende, Thursday, 23 June 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link

It was FUCKING BRILLIANT and I will not have a word said against it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:11 (two years ago) link

given the choice between scenery chewing and trauma bonding I will choose the former 110% of the time

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:20 (two years ago) link

if one had one word, would it be ham?

quite fun though I guess just a tad ham-y or sumfin.
Did have me wondering if the US had a special occasion at this time of year I wasn't aware of. An extra Xian festival like.

Stevolende, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:22 (two years ago) link

i absolutely need pike, without anyone commenting, to sport that middle part in the next episode

mookieproof, Thursday, 23 June 2022 23:24 (two years ago) link


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