The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

eg my 50 something NoVa cousin who was basically Alex P Keaton in the 80s

My best friend's in-laws! The dad was a bottom-feeding Cuban conservative radio personality, just awful, whose brain was broken by Dubya. Hated the Iraq War. Voted for Obama twice, Clinton, Biden. He ain't going back.

here's the quote that libs love to float:

A woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right.
-Barry Goldwater

I guess he'd be more of a libertarian in today's spectrum

groomers pic.twitter.com/ALKSMZ2wIZ

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 9, 2022

idk I think there are a lot of people who were yuppie Reagan/ Bush I voters in the 80s living in blue metros/ states with no ties to the religious right, find MAGA “tacky” and vote Democratic now. which sort of seems like the primary project of Democratic Party since Carter: ie replace union voters with lettered suburbanites convinced that low or no corporate taxes, financial deregulation, and big military budgets are The Way

My mom, who just turned 77, nicely laid out her politics in a recent email, which I found interesting:

My politics have been fairly consistent throughout my adult life. I tend to be socially liberal and fiscally somewhat conservative, but being socially liberal means spending on social programs. When I first started voting, I nearly always voted Democratic. If I really did not like a Democrat candidate, I did occasionally vote for the Republican. I have never missed voting in a presidential election. I supported JFK in 1960, and LBJ in 1964, but I could not vote until the 1968 election because the voting age was 21 until 1971.

When I moved to Pennsylvania, I was required to pick a party. My township was almost 100% Republican. The same candidate, a Republican, would either be listed on both tickets, or would be unopposed. So I registered as an Independent. This meant I could not vote in primary elections. Some of the mid-term elections included Governor or US Senator, so I voted in them. Eventually I increased my votes to include all elections except primaries. After Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election, I changed my registration to Democrat so that I could finally vote in primaries. I will now vote for anyone opposed to Trump. I believe he set the country back in so many ways that it may never fully recover.

I am pro-choice, pro-equality, pro-voting rights. I want real tax reform where everyone pays their fair share. I want more money spent on education. I want affordable or free-tuition college options. I want the US to support democracy around the world, I want United Nations reform, I want other nations to pay their share and stop criticizing Israel’s right to exist. And of course I want peace.

Tbf, her whole family has always leaned Democratic. My dad's family, working class Philly, all lean more or less the opposite, and his side of the family is where I've discovered all the open and secret Trumpers.

JiC I love your mom! Those are pretty much my mom's views as well.

stop criticizing Israel’s right to exist.

okay, she lost me here lol

Similar upbringing and perspective as my mom. My dad grew up a red diaper baby but his dad was a teacher at Andover, so he rubbed elbows with a lot of scions growing up and was extremely conservative until Bush 2, when he began to rapidly mellow into the Bernie type politics guy he is now. Tbh I am proud of him.

It seems any thoughtful criticism of Israeli policy gets recast as opposing their very right to exist, or anti-semitism

I doubt your mom feels this way, but nonetheless

A former colleague of mine, an orthodox Jew, told me Jimmy Carter was antisemitic, which was news to me. I asked her why, and her basic answer was that he was critical of Israel.

There are so many better reasons to dislike Jimmy Carter.

Based on reported news, leaks and rumors, I'm beginning to suspect that the Jan. 6 committee may finally demonstrate, after all its investigating, that the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, two openly seditious right wing groups whose leaders are currently in jail, indicted for seditious conspiracy related to Jan. 6, may in fact have had something to do with Jan. 6, possibly something seditious. Hopefully the Jan. 6 committee will present ample facts so people can come to their own conclusions. Maybe one day in the near future they'll even be convicted and sentenced - perhaps for sedition? - in time for the next GOP president to pardon them.

Why are they doing this in prime time? Do they think people are going to tune into this shit?

Put it on Netflix, call it Stranger Things 5, slap some Kate Bush on top.

I don't think I'll be around tonite to watch this dog & pony show, but I look forward to any really damaging stuff that comes out, fully realizing that diehard trumplings won't give a shit about anything that's revealed

Seeing "Top Gun" tonight, at least I know that will get results.

Why are they doing this in prime time? Do they think people are going to tune into this shit?

The people most likely to respond to 30 e-mails a day asking for just five more dollars will be glued to the screen?

Ugh those locker room scenes in Top Gun are torture

No spoilers!

(Are there planes?)

Planes wearing precariously balanced towels around their midsections?

Sensual Aircraft

Here we go

I can't watch this, it'll dredge up too much. Will gladly read the highlights

Fuckfuckityfuck.
The audio was so far out of sync in that Bill Barr clip, I could practically smell the deepfake conspiracies developing in real time...

Lynne Cheney is kind of amazing in this hearing, she is not reading from any script but is speaking in the moment and is very articulate

Like most Republicans, she knows how to hate.

I think she probably memorized this performance but it is pretty intricate and is an amazing monologue

“Be there. Will be wild!”

I'm only listening on radio, she's not reading from a teleprompter or something? pretty amazing

Jan 6 footage.

“there will come a day when Donald Trump will be gone, and you will be dishonored”

I would like to believe that will be true!

I’m still so angry that these assholes weren’t arrested right then and there.

this fucking video

Oof, that final sound bite & image combo.

lol @ Tarrio and other Proud Boys admitting they sold more merch after Trump's comments at the debate.

I feel like it's my responsibility as a citizen to watch this and yet I know it will send me careening into hopelessness (I'm not watching it)

It’s a lot to watch.

it's better stitched together than expected

The documentary filmmaker talking about the Proud Boy/Oath Keeper meeting the night before was something.

There’s some canny stagecraft at work here that I appreciate - a white, female representative in split screen interviewing a white Capitol police officer and this awful day.

One was trying to defend the other and was assaulted for it.

I missed a word or two in that post but you get what I’m saying.

“I was slipping in people’s blood.”

Just heard that not only did Fox not broadcast this, they didn't even air any commercials that would risk their audience changing the channel and tuning in. That's pretty despicable, even for them.

(Top Gun was silly but very entertaining, btw.)

The Newsmax lower third during the hearings has been completely unhinged. pic.twitter.com/eBS5oRXEcw

— trapezoid of discovery (@get_innocuous) June 10, 2022

Jesus christ pic.twitter.com/05xjUQe5YD

— trapezoid of discovery (@get_innocuous) June 10, 2022

.@TuckerCarlson: The truth of what happened on Jan. 6 is still unknown https://t.co/FLBpB9uGtq

— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 10, 2022

xposts there's your answer for why fox didn't broadcast the hearings: they'll get better ratings with tucker carlson, who will also, simultaneously, provide a different version of events for his viewers. why wouldn't they? everyone rolled their eyes when fox news was called "propaganda" during the bush administration. that's because they used to keep most of the more overt propaganda stuff on the "opinion" shows after the "news" hours were over. that line between news and propaganda was completely obliterated at some point, long before hannity was onstage with trump

and yes, i know, faithful ilx readers, that none of YOU rolled your eyes at fox being called propaganda in the 2000s!

just saying, there is a difference between really bad and reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally bad, and although they're on the spectrum and all of this could be seen coming a long time ago, well, a long time has passed, and yes, this time has come

"on the spectrum" should be "on the same spectrum", i'm not trying to say anything about autism.

saying things on ilx while making a bunch of typos is the most stressful