The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

Every single day that they've spent on this, all the usual high profile assholes have been out and about, fearlessly, freely, openly and explicitly laying the groundwork and advocating for a more successful repeat. From the local state level to prominent national politicians. The DOJ, by not enforcing subpoenas against Meadows and Scavino, has shown that it will likely not do anything serious with anyone else high up on the food chain, either, give or take a Proud Boy or Oath Keeper. The committee will very proudly lay out its meticulous work and proof, Trump Inc. will continue to clog the justice toilet for years, voters will either forget about it or further entrench, and the march toward the end of democracy will continue unabated.

Given the outlet, this history is not terrible https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/supreme-court-power-overrule-congress/661212/

I heard Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein on the PBS News Hour yesterday, promoting a new edition of All the President's Men with a new forward about the parallels with Trump.

When asked who was worse, they were both unequivocal: Trump. Nixon's crimes were political, but not seditious - and he resigned when nearly all the Republicans turned against him, while Trump is floating the idea of another run, which is likely supported by the GOP lackeys

I feel like Republicans turned against Nixon because the news reporting would be too damning for them. Now, with Fox, Newsmax, OANN etc. they've created their own alternate reality where Trump (and the party) have done no wrong. Also Trump is their charismatic leader now, and all the DeSantises and Cruzes trying to suck up to that power don't really have "it" as far as I can see, so the lackeys will support him until enough of the country has turned against him.

Yes. Also their own voters. This would change after 1980.

I've said a million times, all the "moderate" once-Republicans are now Democrats.

Nah, they're either dead (because they were born in 1907) or fascists now. Moderate Republicans didn't move to the Democrats, they just stopped being moderate.

We all have our good former Republicans.

Yeah, but Romney & Murkowski have some misgivings and decidely mixed feelings about the fascism

even Goldwater's rep has been rehabilitated through the prism of today's GOP shitshow

He was the first rehab case I remember because he wasn't quite as insane as the rest of the party but only about gay people serving in the military.

Also looked genuinely pissed off about Nixon's felonies and didn't retreat into "Well, we won't let Democrat senators do THAT to us again."

He's still heinous.

idk I think there are a lot of people who were yuppie Reagan/ Bush I voters in the 80s living in blue metros/ states with no ties to the religious right, find MAGA “tacky” and vote Democratic now. which sort of seems like the primary project of Democratic Party since Carter: ie replace union voters with lettered suburbanites convinced that low or no corporate taxes, financial deregulation, and big military budgets are The Way

eg my 50 something NoVa cousin who was basically Alex P Keaton in the 80s

My best friend's in-laws! The dad was a bottom-feeding Cuban conservative radio personality, just awful, whose brain was broken by Dubya. Hated the Iraq War. Voted for Obama twice, Clinton, Biden. He ain't going back.

here's the quote that libs love to float:

A woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right.
-Barry Goldwater

I guess he'd be more of a libertarian in today's spectrum

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 9, 2022

idk I think there are a lot of people who were yuppie Reagan/ Bush I voters in the 80s living in blue metros/ states with no ties to the religious right, find MAGA “tacky” and vote Democratic now. which sort of seems like the primary project of Democratic Party since Carter: ie replace union voters with lettered suburbanites convinced that low or no corporate taxes, financial deregulation, and big military budgets are The Way

My mom, who just turned 77, nicely laid out her politics in a recent email, which I found interesting:

My politics have been fairly consistent throughout my adult life. I tend to be socially liberal and fiscally somewhat conservative, but being socially liberal means spending on social programs. When I first started voting, I nearly always voted Democratic. If I really did not like a Democrat candidate, I did occasionally vote for the Republican. I have never missed voting in a presidential election. I supported JFK in 1960, and LBJ in 1964, but I could not vote until the 1968 election because the voting age was 21 until 1971.

When I moved to Pennsylvania, I was required to pick a party. My township was almost 100% Republican. The same candidate, a Republican, would either be listed on both tickets, or would be unopposed. So I registered as an Independent. This meant I could not vote in primary elections. Some of the mid-term elections included Governor or US Senator, so I voted in them. Eventually I increased my votes to include all elections except primaries. After Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election, I changed my registration to Democrat so that I could finally vote in primaries. I will now vote for anyone opposed to Trump. I believe he set the country back in so many ways that it may never fully recover.

I am pro-choice, pro-equality, pro-voting rights. I want real tax reform where everyone pays their fair share. I want more money spent on education. I want affordable or free-tuition college options. I want the US to support democracy around the world, I want United Nations reform, I want other nations to pay their share and stop criticizing Israel’s right to exist. And of course I want peace.

Tbf, her whole family has always leaned Democratic. My dad's family, working class Philly, all lean more or less the opposite, and his side of the family is where I've discovered all the open and secret Trumpers.

JiC I love your mom! Those are pretty much my mom's views as well.

stop criticizing Israel’s right to exist.

okay, she lost me here lol

Similar upbringing and perspective as my mom. My dad grew up a red diaper baby but his dad was a teacher at Andover, so he rubbed elbows with a lot of scions growing up and was extremely conservative until Bush 2, when he began to rapidly mellow into the Bernie type politics guy he is now. Tbh I am proud of him.

It seems any thoughtful criticism of Israeli policy gets recast as opposing their very right to exist, or anti-semitism

I doubt your mom feels this way, but nonetheless

A former colleague of mine, an orthodox Jew, told me Jimmy Carter was antisemitic, which was news to me. I asked her why, and her basic answer was that he was critical of Israel.

There are so many better reasons to dislike Jimmy Carter.

Based on reported news, leaks and rumors, I'm beginning to suspect that the Jan. 6 committee may finally demonstrate, after all its investigating, that the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, two openly seditious right wing groups whose leaders are currently in jail, indicted for seditious conspiracy related to Jan. 6, may in fact have had something to do with Jan. 6, possibly something seditious. Hopefully the Jan. 6 committee will present ample facts so people can come to their own conclusions. Maybe one day in the near future they'll even be convicted and sentenced - perhaps for sedition? - in time for the next GOP president to pardon them.

Why are they doing this in prime time? Do they think people are going to tune into this shit?

Put it on Netflix, call it Stranger Things 5, slap some Kate Bush on top.

I don't think I'll be around tonite to watch this dog & pony show, but I look forward to any really damaging stuff that comes out, fully realizing that diehard trumplings won't give a shit about anything that's revealed

Seeing "Top Gun" tonight, at least I know that will get results.

Why are they doing this in prime time? Do they think people are going to tune into this shit?

The people most likely to respond to 30 e-mails a day asking for just five more dollars will be glued to the screen?

Ugh those locker room scenes in Top Gun are torture

No spoilers!

(Are there planes?)

Planes wearing precariously balanced towels around their midsections?

Sensual Aircraft

Here we go

I can't watch this, it'll dredge up too much. Will gladly read the highlights

Fuckfuckityfuck.
The audio was so far out of sync in that Bill Barr clip, I could practically smell the deepfake conspiracies developing in real time...

Lynne Cheney is kind of amazing in this hearing, she is not reading from any script but is speaking in the moment and is very articulate

Like most Republicans, she knows how to hate.

I think she probably memorized this performance but it is pretty intricate and is an amazing monologue

“Be there. Will be wild!”

I'm only listening on radio, she's not reading from a teleprompter or something? pretty amazing

Jan 6 footage.

“there will come a day when Donald Trump will be gone, and you will be dishonored”

I would like to believe that will be true!

I’m still so angry that these assholes weren’t arrested right then and there.

this fucking video

Oof, that final sound bite & image combo.

lol @ Tarrio and other Proud Boys admitting they sold more merch after Trump's comments at the debate.