Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

xpost one reason I've carefully curated my FB friends list is there are some absolute terrifying gun-owning lunatics here, precisely the type that might show up on your doorstep one day if you look at them the wrong way.

I got threatened with violence by one in the midst of an angry FB argument on a Friend's page, and he threatened a few other people. Turns out he lived only three miles from me. a dudebro who was racist af, anti-BLM, and regularly bragged every five minutes about how he served, which turned out to be 3 months where he served as a radio technician.

rather than reply, a bunch of us reported him to his school and shared the threats.

Multiple people pointed out that the US isn’t going to enter into a Civil War so much as a Days of Lead type era as we get more cascading social collapse.

So Furiosa will be a training video for the End Times

Finally, a real-word solution for a fruitless debate:

The US company behind Tasers plans to produce stun gun-armed drones it claims will help stop school shootings.

The Arizona-based company, Axon, says that the high-tech solution is necessary amid a "fruitless" debate on gun policy in the US.

The announcement, however, earned a stern rebuke from the company's own ethics board...

Guns aren't the problem, it's the lack of armed drones hovering nearby that's the real problem

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/06/03/nation/what-drives-mass-shooters-grievance-despair-anger-are-more-likely-triggers-than-mental-illness-experts-say/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/philadelphia-shooting.html

Today in Nigeria, heard 50 deaths on the radio just now.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/africa/mass-shooting-nigeria-church-intl/index.html

that nigerian attack is almost certainly the work of boko haram, the same armed insurgent group that kidnapped all the children in a girl's school several years ago.

Yeah, multiple assailants.

My friend posted the sarcastic Thoughts and Prayers pic he posts as a protest against the gun lobby every time there's a shooting in the US and I was about to say "This one happened outside the US, idk how US gun control would have...."

And realized he was talking about a Chattanooga shooting that just happened. These things come so fast

yeah and even then- which one in chattanooga?!

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/29/us/chattanooga-tennessee-shooting/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/05/us/chattanooga-tennessee-shooting/index.html

can't even articulate how absurd this is. summer of violence officially here for all of your rootin and tootin needs.

in the meantime, has anyone else started to avoid certain places during peak traffic times? or is that just me?

There have never been more good reasons to avoid bars and nightclubs after midnight.

https://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw-bay-city/2022/06/three-people-killed-in-saginaw-shooting.html

https://www.abc15.com/news/crime/multiple-people-shot-near-10th-avenue-and-hatcher-road

^Phoenix

*shakily removes bookmark*

*gets shot, probably*

Jesus - my brother and his kids were in Chattanooga on *Friday* night for a metal show. (My brother's retired Army and builds guns in his garage; my older nephew is in the Air Force right now. If they weren't carrying — I don't know what the rules are there — I'd bet there was at least one gun in their vehicle.)

Becoming a shut-in feels like a legitimate and justifiable life choice at this point.

The shooting in Philadelphia broke out in a crowded downtown street Saturday night. Police in the area of the popular South Street entertainment district heard gunshots nearby, and one officer saw a gunman firing into a large crowd, Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw said at a Sunday new briefing.

Huh

was at a bar the other night, someone's purse got knocked over and a gun fell out. I've seen guns in public before and it's scary & annoying, but you know it's just idiots waving their dicks around. concealed carry on the other hand is something else, this person goes out thinking "I'm going to bring my handgun with me just in case I need to murder someone", I just cannot fucking understand that frame of mind. I don't think so much as a slap fight has ever broken out in this place!

there were cops with machine guns posted outside our theatre and walking the streets outside it a few weeks ago, not long after the Robb Elementary shooting, and they wouldn't tell us what it was about. was a bit unnerving.

the US averaged 51.2 mass shooting deaths per month from Jan through May. In the first 5 days of June there have already been 22 deaths.

Speaking of cops and machine guns:

https://www.fox19.com/2021/03/29/former-addyston-police-chief-returns-federal-court-machine-gun-scheme-charges-8/

A former Tri-State police chief won’t spend a day in prison

LaCourse, who used to lead the Addyston Police Department, was convicted in April of using his law enforcement position to illegally help two federally licensed firearms dealers in Indiana acquire and resell about 200 fully automatic machine guns.

the wild bears are out of control this season. only machine guns can help the good people of ohio to defeat the bears

I'm sorry to ask such a naïve question, but the thread is too long to open up for searching. I was wondering how, if the NRA filed for bankruptcy recently, do they still accrue such clout with political donations? Or is it just a full-on culture war now and the donations are no longer a factor?

the bankruptcy was just admin, to try and move states in order to avoid prosecution. they are not out of money.

They must be mind-wreckingly stupid to imagine that a bankruptcy would get up when they are literally giving away (tens? hundreds? of) millions.

god I had better not engage with this, I'm both clueless and easily depressed

Son of Buffalo shooting victim asks Senate: "Is there nothing that you personally are willing to do to stop the cancer of white supremacy and the domestic terrorism it inspires? Because if there is nothing, then...you should yield your positions." pic.twitter.com/Yv9cPfEkAt

— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) June 7, 2022

Let’s not underestimate the clout of gun manufacturers who just shovel millions to right wing politicians, but quietly.

I can’t find it online but I read in the dead-tree Washington Post about the political activities of the manufacturer of the weapon used in Uvalde.

And mass shootings always lead to increased gun sales. Killing is their business…and business is good!

I wonder if the Kremlin can still keep the NRA afloat with their current, eh, 'expenditures'

Um, huh? How did the Kremlin get mentioned here

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/nra-maria-butina-ukraine-putin-war-crimea-republicans-trump-guns/

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/11/nra-russia-money-guns-516804

progress (........?)

Facebook’s ban on gun sales gives sellers 10 strikes before booting them

Facebook prohibits gun sales on its service. But buyers and sellers can violate the rule 10 times before they are kicked off the social network, according to internal guidance obtained by The Washington Post.

The policy, which has not previously been reported, is much more lenient than for users who post child pornography, which is illegal, or a terrorist image on Facebook, which prompts immediate removal from the platform.

A separate five-strikes policy extends even to gun sellers and purchasers who actively call for violence or praise a known dangerous organization, according to the documents.

...But while the company was publicly praised for banning the sales, internally, enforcement was lax, they added.

“The number of strikes needed to actually take someone off was so great that the policy didn’t really make a difference. The only ramification was that a seller’s post was taken down,” the person said.

Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/09/facebook-gun-sellers-10-strikes/

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/facebook-enforces-ban-on-gun-sales-with-10-strikes-and-youre-out-policy/

they just need nine reminders before it sinks in

thing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.

In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken

Sigh

flag football?

When I was using Facebook Marketplace to sell off some power tools, I'd report all the EMPTY GLOCK CASE WINKWINK $600 ads and Facebook said they were all legit and above board.

no see what they were saying is that was a 'partial strike' so like it counts as a half-strike towards their ten strike total but the ad is allowed to stay up in the meantime because I mean they have to make a living maaaan

hing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, June 9, 2022 1:59 PM bookmarkflaglink

lol seriously, though they did manage to figure out the last time I did that and ban my other account. shoulda used VPN

In what other context has anyone ever gotten ten strikes for an infraction before action was taken

keep in mind, with facebook the number used to be higher! "Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower."

honestly, having been a veteran on a couple of mid-to-low projects that no one really cared about in a large organization, this kind of sounds like the thing where you only make about a third of the very obvious improvements you can make. why do it all at once and have to start over on new project when you can spread the "doing good" part over several years instead? Don't go from 20 strikes (or 40. or 51?) to 3 strikes or 2 strikes or 1 strike all at once. you gotta slooooowly get there and build up some PT along the way

A friend from high school got banned for drunkenly ranting at COVID deniers night after night over the summer of 2020 and decided it was time to go to rehab. Getting banned from Facebook is a pretty legit rock bottom IMO.

why would anyone want to sell a firearm anyway? guns are for hoarding, hundreds of them