Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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xpost That's why he only bought it that afternoon

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 2 June 2022 19:54 (two years ago) link

:: BREAKING NOW @tmj4: Five people shot at Graceland Cemetery in Racine during funeral for Da’Shontay King, man shot by Racine Police on May 20.

— Steve Chamraz (@TMJ4Steve) June 2, 2022

frogbs, Thursday, 2 June 2022 20:49 (two years ago) link

Zero doors in a cemetery and still.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 June 2022 20:53 (two years ago) link

My colleagues' eyebrows went up like the curtain at the Met when a month ago during a teaching presentation I insisted, after teaching rhetoric for years, that we gotta stop teaching students as if facts mattered

Yeah, all this kinda thing just seems to point out how the standard liberal “information deficit” model doesn’t actually help for shiiiit

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link

so different how much information people can acquire from different locations these days. when I was in college, Wikipedia didn't even show up until I was a Junior, and wasn't widely used, and it was still mostly news articles from large news outlets, the AP or actual books/encyclopedias if I was writing a paper.

Bloggers didn't update their blogs enough back then to be a frequent source of alternative news back then, and InfoWars was relatively new.

I would guess a lot of papers show up today with citations from like Twitter and random fly-by-night online news sites ?

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:47 (two years ago) link

There was one fact in Biden's address last night that, bad on me for not hearing it before, was incredibly sobering, which was this: "Over the last two decades, more school-age children have died from guns than on-duty police officers and active-duty military combined." It seems to me that something like this should fucking really be a wake up call to the US, but maybe we are too dead inside.

akm, Friday, 3 June 2022 16:47 (two years ago) link

This American Summer hasn't even technically begun yet, but I have a feeling it's gonna be a rough one - both mass shootings and the run of the mill street shootings

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link

the same number of people that believe the shooting of kiddies is a necessary evil to protect our rights are the same number of people who believe being run over by a drunk driver was part of "God's plan" and is a blessing in disguise

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link

xpost one reason I've carefully curated my FB friends list is there are some absolute terrifying gun-owning lunatics here, precisely the type that might show up on your doorstep one day if you look at them the wrong way.

I got threatened with violence by one in the midst of an angry FB argument on a Friend's page, and he threatened a few other people. Turns out he lived only three miles from me. a dudebro who was racist af, anti-BLM, and regularly bragged every five minutes about how he served, which turned out to be 3 months where he served as a radio technician.

rather than reply, a bunch of us reported him to his school and shared the threats.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:52 (two years ago) link

Multiple people pointed out that the US isn’t going to enter into a Civil War so much as a Days of Lead type era as we get more cascading social collapse.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 3 June 2022 16:57 (two years ago) link

So Furiosa will be a training video for the End Times

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link

Finally, a real-word solution for a fruitless debate:

The US company behind Tasers plans to produce stun gun-armed drones it claims will help stop school shootings.

The Arizona-based company, Axon, says that the high-tech solution is necessary amid a "fruitless" debate on gun policy in the US.

The announcement, however, earned a stern rebuke from the company's own ethics board...

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link

Guns aren't the problem, it's the lack of armed drones hovering nearby that's the real problem

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 3 June 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link

Today in Nigeria, heard 50 deaths on the radio just now.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/05/africa/mass-shooting-nigeria-church-intl/index.html

nickn, Sunday, 5 June 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link

that nigerian attack is almost certainly the work of boko haram, the same armed insurgent group that kidnapped all the children in a girl's school several years ago.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 5 June 2022 19:13 (two years ago) link

Yeah, multiple assailants.

nickn, Sunday, 5 June 2022 19:21 (two years ago) link

My friend posted the sarcastic Thoughts and Prayers pic he posts as a protest against the gun lobby every time there's a shooting in the US and I was about to say "This one happened outside the US, idk how US gun control would have...."

And realized he was talking about a Chattanooga shooting that just happened. These things come so fast

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 June 2022 19:23 (two years ago) link

yeah and even then- which one in chattanooga?!

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/29/us/chattanooga-tennessee-shooting/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/05/us/chattanooga-tennessee-shooting/index.html

can't even articulate how absurd this is. summer of violence officially here for all of your rootin and tootin needs.

in the meantime, has anyone else started to avoid certain places during peak traffic times? or is that just me?

I'm ANTIFA and I vote. (Austin), Sunday, 5 June 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link

There have never been more good reasons to avoid bars and nightclubs after midnight.

henry s, Sunday, 5 June 2022 21:46 (two years ago) link

^Phoenix

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 June 2022 21:51 (two years ago) link

*shakily removes bookmark*

(ʇɐɔ) o (cat), Sunday, 5 June 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link

*gets shot, probably*

(ʇɐɔ) o (cat), Sunday, 5 June 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link

Jesus - my brother and his kids were in Chattanooga on *Friday* night for a metal show. (My brother's retired Army and builds guns in his garage; my older nephew is in the Air Force right now. If they weren't carrying — I don't know what the rules are there — I'd bet there was at least one gun in their vehicle.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 5 June 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link

Becoming a shut-in feels like a legitimate and justifiable life choice at this point.

The shooting in Philadelphia broke out in a crowded downtown street Saturday night. Police in the area of the popular South Street entertainment district heard gunshots nearby, and one officer saw a gunman firing into a large crowd, Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw said at a Sunday new briefing.

Huh

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 6 June 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link

was at a bar the other night, someone's purse got knocked over and a gun fell out. I've seen guns in public before and it's scary & annoying, but you know it's just idiots waving their dicks around. concealed carry on the other hand is something else, this person goes out thinking "I'm going to bring my handgun with me just in case I need to murder someone", I just cannot fucking understand that frame of mind. I don't think so much as a slap fight has ever broken out in this place!

frogbs, Monday, 6 June 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link

there were cops with machine guns posted outside our theatre and walking the streets outside it a few weeks ago, not long after the Robb Elementary shooting, and they wouldn't tell us what it was about. was a bit unnerving.

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 June 2022 15:35 (two years ago) link

the US averaged 51.2 mass shooting deaths per month from Jan through May. In the first 5 days of June there have already been 22 deaths.

Speaking of cops and machine guns:

https://www.fox19.com/2021/03/29/former-addyston-police-chief-returns-federal-court-machine-gun-scheme-charges-8/

brownie, Monday, 6 June 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link

A former Tri-State police chief won’t spend a day in prison

LaCourse, who used to lead the Addyston Police Department, was convicted in April of using his law enforcement position to illegally help two federally licensed firearms dealers in Indiana acquire and resell about 200 fully automatic machine guns.

brownie, Monday, 6 June 2022 15:41 (two years ago) link

the wild bears are out of control this season. only machine guns can help the good people of ohio to defeat the bears

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 June 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link

I'm sorry to ask such a naïve question, but the thread is too long to open up for searching. I was wondering how, if the NRA filed for bankruptcy recently, do they still accrue such clout with political donations? Or is it just a full-on culture war now and the donations are no longer a factor?

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 07:13 (two years ago) link

the bankruptcy was just admin, to try and move states in order to avoid prosecution. they are not out of money.

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 07:25 (two years ago) link

They must be mind-wreckingly stupid to imagine that a bankruptcy would get up when they are literally giving away (tens? hundreds? of) millions.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 07:33 (two years ago) link

god I had better not engage with this, I'm both clueless and easily depressed

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 07:34 (two years ago) link

Son of Buffalo shooting victim asks Senate: "Is there nothing that you personally are willing to do to stop the cancer of white supremacy and the domestic terrorism it inspires? Because if there is nothing, then...you should yield your positions." pic.twitter.com/Yv9cPfEkAt

— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) June 7, 2022

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 10:54 (two years ago) link

Let’s not underestimate the clout of gun manufacturers who just shovel millions to right wing politicians, but quietly.

I can’t find it online but I read in the dead-tree Washington Post about the political activities of the manufacturer of the weapon used in Uvalde.

And mass shootings always lead to increased gun sales. Killing is their business…and business is good!

THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 12:51 (two years ago) link

I wonder if the Kremlin can still keep the NRA afloat with their current, eh, 'expenditures'

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

Um, huh? How did the Kremlin get mentioned here

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 16:31 (two years ago) link

progress (........?)

Facebook’s ban on gun sales gives sellers 10 strikes before booting them

Facebook prohibits gun sales on its service. But buyers and sellers can violate the rule 10 times before they are kicked off the social network, according to internal guidance obtained by The Washington Post.

The policy, which has not previously been reported, is much more lenient than for users who post child pornography, which is illegal, or a terrorist image on Facebook, which prompts immediate removal from the platform.

A separate five-strikes policy extends even to gun sellers and purchasers who actively call for violence or praise a known dangerous organization, according to the documents.

...But while the company was publicly praised for banning the sales, internally, enforcement was lax, they added.

“The number of strikes needed to actually take someone off was so great that the policy didn’t really make a difference. The only ramification was that a seller’s post was taken down,” the person said.

Until 2020, the strike threshold for guns was more than 10, said two of the people. That threshold seemed “too high” to many employees, who argued to reduce it to 10 strikes or lower.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/09/facebook-gun-sellers-10-strikes/

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/06/facebook-enforces-ban-on-gun-sales-with-10-strikes-and-youre-out-policy/

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:50 (two years ago) link

they just need nine reminders before it sinks in

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:51 (two years ago) link

thing is, once you get banned from facebook, you're cooked. no way you're getting another account on there.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 June 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link


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