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WHAT DOES XPOST MEAN?????????

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Jesse C Kehr (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 07:05 (twenty years ago)

Whoa! that was putting my full name up on here.

I will continue posting back and forth to myself until 2 AM.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 07:08 (twenty years ago)

Which one, K.? American Don?

Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 4 March 2006 07:14 (twenty years ago)

K? Me? Que?

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 07:31 (twenty years ago)

Chris, how long are you in town?

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 07:33 (twenty years ago)

Like I said "stumble home in 30 seconds." Ha. I bonded with someone over a girl that we both tried to date with limited success. It wasn't us, it was her.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 4 March 2006 08:26 (twenty years ago)

Welcome to registrationworld! You came on just as soon as I gave up.

I am here until TUESDAY AFTERNOON, I think.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 4 March 2006 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Also, "xpost" is a "crosspost", it is when you were typing something and then someone else typed something. So it means "I am not responding to that just above, but something way above that." If you need to clarify, you can say "xpost to barfybunny" or whatever.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 4 March 2006 14:06 (twenty years ago)

ALSO you will note that I am up way too frickin' early for a Saturday morning. Bring me some Frosted Sugar Puffs and some Bugs Bunny cartoons! Bring me my chariots of desire!

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 4 March 2006 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Hi Chris

I'm living to Eminem. I'm getting ready to pay my $100 parking ticket from my RENTAL CAR. I just say that the fine for a late payment is EQUAL TO THE ORIGINAL FINE! Fuckin' A, man.

I got up at 10 this morning because I'm in that habit, despite having drunk a bottle of wine last night to KILL THE PAIN IN MY SOUL.

XOXO, Jesse

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Contest that bitch!

I am debating what to do today. I would go to Hyde Park and wander around various bookstores, but it is not very convenient to the public transit. I mean, busses, urgh.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:09 (twenty years ago)

What's wrong with busses?

When I first moved here I was intimidated by busses, I guess because of the number of bus lines and stuff. In cities I visited in the past I always took the trains and subways but never ever busses because they seemed confusing.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

They seem slow, and it's nicer to walk.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm not really "anti-bus" though.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:29 (twenty years ago)

A fried from Seattle said that when she went back to visit her friends could not believe she was riding the bus because it's a whole different class of people who ride busses in car-friendly cities.

Busses are slower than trains, except for God's Own Busses, the Express busses.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember the last time I heard anyone other than me use the "God's Own..." construction.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:33 (twenty years ago)

My most common use of it is when describing Alleve: "God's own hangover cure."

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:46 (twenty years ago)

You know what is God's own fruit? Fresh cut golden pineapple. Esp when you buy it at the Mexican grocery for 1.49 and it yields more than the pre-cut which costs at least $3. Fresh pineapple is the only fruit I've eaten that has never ever let me down.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Don't eat the hard middle bits!

I think I am off to Hyde Park. If anyone wants to meet up later, give me a call. If you don't have my number, get it from Jaoyhmnc, Jesse, Jenny, Nick, or whoever else has it. Who knows! It might be fun.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Chris, I didn't get your email until this morning. So that's why I didn't reply. Not because I'm an asshole. Though I am. I think we're going to go to BROADWAY ANTIQUES MARKET in a few minutes, because Sarah has been bugging me about it for like 6 months.

xpost I don't have your number.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:57 (twenty years ago)

i keep reading Jaoyhmnc as "jahoymc".

Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I got up earlier than all-y'all (6:45, anyone?) so no complaining! I just got back from my class, where I was trying to teach the stoods* about how to have a civilized argument. We were discussing phrases and terms to suggest that we "strongly agree" (rather than half-heartedly agree) and I refrained from teaching them to say "OTM." It was hard, because I enjoy indoctrinating people with inappropriate and sometimes inaccurate information, but I restrained myself.


*My students are referred to frequently as "the stoods"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:50 (twenty years ago)

i still had not been to bed at 6:45.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:44 (twenty years ago)

haha me neither!

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm falling-down tired but Ben is on a plane, going home (after an astounding series of mishaps, any of which could have resulted in a missed flight)! And half the old apartment is sparklingly clean! Of course I've only unpacked a fraction of my books, but that seems like a minor annoyance right now. Now I'm going smoke a pack of cigarettes, shower, nap, and then start looking for someone to start trouble with tonight. WHO'S WITH ME??

Laurel, Saturday, 4 March 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

What's going on tonight? Anything? We've been out and about all day at destinations ranging from Promontary Point (at 55th Ave) to Broadway Antiques Market (6130 N. Broadway), quite a range!

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)

Duke/Carolina

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

My dream evening: someone, not me, invites the crew to their pad for brews and maybe a movie or something. Low-impact.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)

Nick, I thought I put my phone number in that e-mail.

Either way.

Apparently this evening we are going to [have dinner? hang out] with B.'s current "fling", who I haven't met yet. I really want Jesse to come along with, otherwise it will be hard to endure.

Casuistry!, Sunday, 5 March 2006 00:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to a punk rock show at the Big Horse Lounge (in Wicker Park) in about a half hour, if anyone wants to join me. (I'm not sure what time the band I'm going to see is starting, so I'm just going to go down there and find out.)

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 5 March 2006 01:23 (twenty years ago)

Will it be loud?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 01:41 (twenty years ago)

Not to be completely frustrating, but what you've done here is shown how difficult it is for a woman to get out of an abusive situation in a foreign country, which I already knew about. What you haven't done, unless I am being totally oblivious to something is pasted the parts that explain how it's easier to escape the abusive situation in the native country, and how a greater percentage of women escape such a situation in their native country than they do in the foreign country.

You're not being completely frustating but you are being a little oblivious - what that article describes and what I pasted are the challenges facing foreign-born women who are in the US as mail-order brides when they try to leave abusive relationships IN THE US. Those challenges are not in place for a woman in her native country where she speaks the language, has citizenship, knows other people, and is familiar with the culture and the currency. It does take logic to get from point A to point B, but it's not difficult to figure it out.

Another statistic that might help is to look at the number of mail-order brides who are killed by their husbands (it's in those links posted above). If it's so easy to leave, I doubt they would end up dead - they'd just leave.

I haven't been trying to say that they get married, move to America, land of the free, and suddenly it's all milk and honey for them and they can easily get out of the abusive situation and get the services they need and open a bistro. That is very much NOT what I am saying, but it feels like you're arguing as if that's what I'm saying.

What I'm reading is that you're saying that it is easier for an immigrant woman to leave an abusive relationship once she arrives in the US than it is for that same woman to leave an abusive relationship in her home country. And to be quite blunt, you're wrong. The freedoms here in the land of the free explicitly apply to citizens and not documented immigrants, and explicitly do not apply to immigrants with faulty documents . The services that these women need are few and far between and very difficult to navigate for native born women, much less women with the oft-listed vulnerabilities (as a matter of fact, HR 4437 aka the Sensenbrenner Bill would make it a felony for any individual or organization to assist undocumented immigrants; this would make providing domestic violence services to a woman without legal status a felony).

So, just to summarize - the US is a bad place for women suffering from domestic and gender violence. The US is a bad place for immigrants. The US is a bad place for immigrant women. The US is a really bad place for immigrant women suffering from domestic violence. QED

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 5 March 2006 04:06 (twenty years ago)

I will give you that a woman in an abusive relationship in a theocratic or fundamentalist state (think burkas and honor killings and bride burnings, although those things also happen in immigrant communities right here in the US) is in an even draw with an immigrant woman trafficked into the US who is stuck with her abuser. These bride services offer women from third world countries, but not from theocratic or fundamentalist nations. Women from those countries are generally find themselves in abusive relationships in the US as a result of arranged marriages, debt marriages, or match-maker type brokers rather than the "Bride Warehouse" type on-line women catalogs, which is more what we're talking about. Or more what I was talking about, anyway. Perhaps that is our miscommunication!

Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 5 March 2006 04:10 (twenty years ago)

What I'm reading is that you're saying that it is easier for an immigrant woman to leave an abusive relationship once she arrives in the US than it is for that same woman to leave an abusive relationship in her home country. And to be quite blunt, you're wrong. The freedoms here in the land of the free explicitly apply to citizens and not documented immigrants, and explicitly do not apply to immigrants with faulty documents . The services that these women need are few and far between and very difficult to navigate for native born women, much less women with the oft-listed vulnerabilities (as a matter of fact, HR 4437 aka the Sensenbrenner Bill would make it a felony for any individual or organization to assist undocumented immigrants; this would make providing domestic violence services to a woman without legal status a felony).

See, and I really should let this drop, but you're doing the same thing again -- you're saying that A is worse than B, and then you're describing how terrible A is, and I completely agree with you about how terrible A is, (and in fact the whole point of my first comment about how "sadly it might be better" doesn't come across unless you're on the same page about how bad things are in the US -- and we are on the same page there!) but you're not saying how B is better.

Because, for instance, above you refer to deportation as one of the likely bad effects of women trying to get out of their abusive relationship -- which just makes me wonder how much worse it must of have been in their original country!

So, just to summarize - the US is a bad place for women suffering from domestic and gender violence. The US is a bad place for immigrants. The US is a bad place for immigrant women. The US is a really bad place for immigrant women suffering from domestic violence. QED

I have been agreeing with this all along.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 05:39 (twenty years ago)

Also: Dinner was fine, but it would have been approximately one zillion times better with Jesse. Ah well. We went to some vegan diner in Andersonville. The Chicago Diner, I think it was called?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 05:42 (twenty years ago)

I have definitely chosen my favorite episode of "First Person with Errol Morris." Apparently someone agrees with me -- this one episode is available separately from the "complete series" DVD (unless they are all, which I doubt). Please ignore the official Amazon product description -- it's misleading, overly dramatic, and just plain wrong. Anyway. He's this dude with a nearly 200 IQ and more crazy stories than you can count -- like making up fake identities to re-enroll in the 12th grade just to see if he could finally get high school right, or flying a banner over LA with an equation on it that he believes explains something fundamental about the universe (something to do with Planck's hypothesis), or his plan to appear nude in every civic division of the greater Los Angeles area, or his epic battles with the producers of Who Wants to Be A Millionaire, or scarring himself to look more like Conan the Barbarian on Halloween... we were laughing for 20 minutes after the show was over. At first he seems like a huge dork, then a serious OCD sufferer, then a mad genius. There's just no getting your head around this dude. Highlight of my week.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 06:21 (twenty years ago)

Also: Dinner was fine, but it would have been approximately one zillion times better with Jesse. Ah well. We went to some vegan diner in Andersonville. The Chicago Diner, I think it was called?

-- Casuistry (chri...), March 5th, 2006.

Awwww....I just blushed so hard I bled on my keyboard.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:06 (twenty years ago)

A Google search on this guy confused me at first. At first I thought, no this can't be the same Rick Rosner. And no, this has got to be a different guy. But read the articles, and yeah, that's him. Crazy fucking genius who now writes jokes for Jimmy Kimmel.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:12 (twenty years ago)

Now go clean that up, Jesse.

Errol Morris is pretty awesome.

Tomorrow, Milwaukee!

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:17 (twenty years ago)

I want to fucking go to fucking Milwaukee! Take me! It'll be one zillion times funner with me!

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:19 (twenty years ago)

Milwaukee does strike me as a place for a romantic gay getaway. But it's true, it will be a zillion times funner with Jesse.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:21 (twenty years ago)

seriously. i'll skip work to go with you to milwaukee.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

c'mon chris. You totally have to take Jesse.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 07:42 (twenty years ago)

You can be Laverne, and I'll be Shirley.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 08:09 (twenty years ago)

"We're gonna do it!"

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 08:09 (twenty years ago)

Give us any chance, we’ll take it.
Give us any rule, we’ll break it.
We’re gonna make our dreams come true.
Doin’ it our way.

Nothin’s gonna turn us back now,
Straight ahead and on the track now.
We’re gonna make our dreams come true,
Doin’ it our way.

There is nothing we won’t try,
Never heard the word impossible.
This time there’s no stopping us.
We’re gonna do it.

On your mark, get set, and go now,
Got a dream and we just know now,
We’re gonna make our dream come true.
And we’ll do it our way, yes our way.
Make all our dreams come true,
And do it our way, yes our way,
Make all our dreams come true
For me and you.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 08:13 (twenty years ago)

Chicago Diner is in Boystown, not Andersonville. Get your gay neighborhoods straight!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 5 March 2006 09:38 (twenty years ago)

Har har. Anyway I suppose I should have fact checked and not just trusted B. to know what neighborhood we were in.

Jesse, we're going Milwaukee mostly to go to a bookstore, possibly to go to a museum, and B. wants to check out some antique stores, if we find any good ones.

So it's not the most glamorous trip we're planning! Plus we're probably going to miss the Oscars, no? Also it's B. and A. and me going, which dampens any rrrrromantic factor, although I suppose we'd have the back seat during the drive...

I do agree that it would be a hundred mazillion times funner if you came along, though.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 5 March 2006 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Dear Chris,

I met someone new. He's taking me to Madison.

XOXO,

Jesse.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Who are B and A? I don't know these people do I? Amanda? I love Amanda. I neeeeed Amanda. Hug and Kiss, that is.

unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Sunday, 5 March 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)


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