Better Call Saul

I think I may need to watch BB through again cos i'm not remembering who does and doesn't appear in that as opposed to early seasons of BCS.

Lalo emerging from the sewer reminded me, of all things--you'll know what I mean if you've seen the film--the Beatles' Help!.

wasnt he looking for evidence that Gus ordered the hit on him? and then he started producing a documentary on how cool his secret lab is?

One really funny detail to me was Lalo emerging from the sewer in the beginning of the episode, whereas the last time we saw him was in Germany, implying that he just took the sewer all the way back to America like he’s Super Mario

― frogbs, Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:22 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

he has the stache for it

It's-a me, Lalo!

*Blam*

come to think of it, how does he get to Germany and back? he doesn't exactly have cartel resources, and I assume it's too risky to just fly commercial, even if the Feds think he's dead.

there's a post credits teaser I had missed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL7ADEs-0oI

I'd guess Lalo has a nice cache of passports and money and airport security is generally just for show anyway

Lalo took an international cab

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyR3fSiwItw

two really funny lines in this episode - Irene asking "is this how these things normally go?" and Howard to Lalo: "I suggest you find a better lawyer!"

ok and also when Howard shows the photos to Cliff and it's just some weird looking dude in a moustache

Lots of funny bits yeah, the trolleys/shopping carts rolling into the parked car was a great cap on a funny scene & then the whole routine with the film students, I love how naturally the sitcom-broad characters fit in among the noir

yeah the camera man was like someone from an SNL sketch. and then the sound lady dressed in full elf makeup.

speaking of someone tracked down Rhea Seehorn's first acting gig and uh...just watch some of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jp4tMSIr_U

All the dialog in that "reshoot" scene in the park was a little too snappy, but yeah great episode and I was definitely laughing when the photos just showed Jimmy giving a frisbee back to the tall film student

loved seeing john ennis and bob odenkirk together again

even though i did keep waiting for bob to call him a "fatty fat fat fatty"

Lalo emerging from the sewer reminded me, of all things--you'll know what I mean if you've seen the film--the Beatles' Help!.

― clemenza, Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:52 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Haha yes, what I thought of too

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very curious what Lalo's plan is re: Saul & Kim. it didn't occur to me until afterwards that he came up with it on the fly after seeing the cockroach.

sometimes I think this show is too subtle for its own good but there are moments where it's really cool. I thought Howard teaching the intern the soda trick was a nice touch - he mentions that Chuck taught it to him, which makes sense because presumably Jimmy was shaking up soda cans all the time as a kid. the whole thing is like a microcosm of their whole relationship.

(xxpost) Should have immediately cut from Lalo to the Beatles doing "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away," Kim sitting on a sofa and listening intently.

also interesting to note that by the time Saul is introduced in Breaking Bad (which iirc is 4 years after the events of the last BCS episode?), he thinks that Lalo is still alive

lol good ep

Did you feel, as I do, that lalo is a lil stinker

BCS > BB

― PBKR, Thursday, May 19, 2022 10:06 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just a masterclass of pacing and tension all season long and what a payoff.

I know Lalo's supposed to be terrifying but whenever he's on screen I can only think of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gYE5TyijxE

Better Sean Paul

More Jimmy, Les Paul (I mean Saul).

Think Lalo might have been too clever turning up at Saul n Kim's like that- if he's planning to use one/both of them against Gus (or Juan Bolsa?), Gus could get wind of it and know what's up. Just cos Michael is fooled by the phone call bluff doesn't mean Gus is

Like the man says. "clever, clever chicken man"

does "mid-season finale" mean there is now a gap?

Yeah. Back 11 July

CLEVER CHICKEN MAN

Think Lalo might have been too clever turning up at Saul n Kim's like that- if he's planning to use one/both of them against Gus (or Juan Bolsa?), Gus could get wind of it and know what's up. Just cos Michael is fooled by the phone call bluff doesn't mean Gus is

yea I kind of suspect that they're going to play the full phone call for Gus, he'll hear that Lalo hangs up and calls back, and deduces that *he* knows and is intentionally throwing them off

Also, Lalo really lost his cool when he realised the phone was tapped, which I don't think we've seen before, which makes me think getting a msg to Hector was a key part of the plan

hector pinging away angrily to the cartel

turns out this show is garbage

The one thing they really screwed up between Breaking Bad (photo 1) and Better Call Saul (photo 2) is the age of Mike's granddaughter, she should have been around 3 in BCS pic.twitter.com/6nCmzx4jDC

— Gore Vidal Sassoon (@JimmyJazz1968) May 27, 2022

I’m not so keen on the Lalo as super-villain element of this show which verges on borderline credibility.

For me what is more interesting how Jimmy has the courage and determination to keep going and reinvent himself in the face of continually being “kicked in the nuts by life” (as it’s phrased above thread iirc)- and the personal cost of this to him and Kim.

perhaps Jimmy dies in the second half of season 5 and Kim does the spin the world backwards thing from Superman to save him but dies in the process

I’m not so keen on the Lalo as super-villain element of this show which verges on borderline credibility.

feel like most of the characters have that element, like 75% of the plot points in this show (and BB) revolve around one character knowing exactly how another character is going to act. Walt vs. Gus, Jimmy vs. Chuck, Jimmy & Kim vs. Howard, all these plot points relying on a character doing very specific things. obviously this is what makes the show fun and I think it's what makes that last scene work so well, seeing things suddenly and dramatically spiral out of control in a completely unpredictable way.

I agree that Lalo's superpowers seem to extend even beyond that, but I think the actor is so good at pulling it off that it works. it really does feel like his character was supposed to kick it last season but they liked Tony Dalton so much they kept him until the end.

Lalo loses that smirk sometimes, even loses his shit occasionally--though I'd forgotten that

by the time Saul is introduced in Breaking Bad (which iirc is 4 years after the events of the last BCS episode?), he thinks that Lalo is still alive

Jimmy and Kim like two little Walts

It's only when the ponderous Gus parts and the pranking-Howard arc took over that I lost some interest, though; the first 3-4 seasons, at least, were amazing, and I still hope Chuck comes back in some way, maybe just for a second in a bad Slippin' Jimmy dream, under the counter at Cinnibon's, or would that be too easy, like Walt and his family in a booth at Gus's place.

i was kinda behind just caught up on new ep

[sits on floor, breathes into paper bag]

holy shit u guys that was intense

the bit where howard is yakking and jimmy and kim notice like a breath of air or a draft or something

yeah the candle bit was a great touch

good “gothic” touch

also i love how all the plots hinged on surveillance in some form or other - gus watching lalo, lalo watching gus, howard watching jimmy, jimmy watching howard

very spy vs sy

there’s this other kind if tragic layer to howard (aside fron the obvious) that i loved that i can’t quite express.

like he is so committed to seemingly hopeless situations. or not that wording but something like that. in his marriage for example. as he reveals to kim & jimmy he’s been sleeping in the guest house for a year (!). so the kitchen scene in the previous ep is not a new turn of the screw, this has prob been playing out the same way for a year! he makes her a latte with the same howard level of fastidious detail …that his wife clearly could give two shits about… and in the moment her uncaring offhandness makes her seem like a jerk. but then, knowing this you gotta wonder why is he still even persisting in these fastidious performances for her? if it’s not benefiting her & makes him (i think) feel defeated. like ok he loved her but at the expense of his own self respect? it’s dark when you think sbout it.it’s like he’s pouring this love into a bucket with a hole in it. so why keep doing it? misplaced hope? passive aggressive commitment to a cause? self esteem?

i dunno

as a character detail i love it. his fastidiousness is so integral to who he his

was Chuck's death over a year ago? (Jimmy was disbarred for a year so I guess it's a little over that). I think Howard was really affected by Chuck's death, had lost a trusted peer and felt a small sense of responsibility.