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Jimmy will rationalize it as he always does to avoid the feeling of guilt. Don't get me wrong, his worry about Howard's safety when Lalo showed up was genuine, but he's going to bury those feelings deep, whereas Kim might be permanently changed by it.

Lalo slipped through because Mike diverted all of the resources on the street to protect the lab/Gus's house, right?

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:11 (four years ago)

Why were Jimmy and Kim so shocked by Lalo's reappearance? Hadn't Mike given them advance warning?

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:31 (four years ago)

Kim knew he was still alive, but didn't pass that info on to Jimmy.

If you were really hard core, you'd have thrown a full bottle (WmC), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:31 (four years ago)

Ah, okay...A good parallel for the last line might be Samuel Jackson's "Oh, I'm sorry--did I break your concentration?" in Pulp Fiction.

clemenza, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 16:33 (four years ago)

Mike's entire conversation with Kim ended with him saying that she had the spine to handle the news that Lalo was alive, where he didn't think Jimmy had it in him

Which was followed by several conversations where Jimmy said things like "Don't worry, at least Lalo is dead!" and "At least we don't have to worry about Lalo!" while Kim looked spooked

mh, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:34 (four years ago)

omfg

Lalo you lil stinker

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:57 (four years ago)

When you see howards pi pull up to take the envelope and the last puzzle piece of the scam clicks into place, real clockwork plotting - & yet as I was saying the other day the satisfaction of the caper rings so hollow cause it’s like Howard says, what’s the point? Two broken ppl throwing bottles off balconies. Also once you get into the conference room it is fundamentally a retread of the humiliation of chuck, another big downer. The last scene was played perfectly, Kim & jimmy’s taunting sangfroid when facing him down was chilling

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:10 (four years ago)

Yeah, played perfectly all around (and agree that probs with pace have recently gone away)---Howard goes out great, Lalo the masterful minimalist ov delivery, another thing which reminds us that gloatin' Jimmy and Kim are, however reckless, Little League sociopaths in comparison (like Lalo will prove to be in comparison to the Cartel). But also yeah, hollow: having the whole thing come down to gaslight gone rong, this whole plotline that's taken over, with Kim and Jimmy going over the sympathy line, also the interest line, two little Walts, just as I figured---"Something will happen to Howard, Kim will probably freak out and run away"---not even helping Jimmy dispose of the body, I hope, but he can always award free legal services for life to someone who will help---she may go back to Nebraska, and Cinnabon X-Jimmy may encounter her there, not nec in a happy way; that could be good.

dow, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:35 (four years ago)

(I figure the Cartel will choose between Lalo and Fring, if they haven't already; not much suspense in that, but some interest in Lalo's means of demise).

dow, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:36 (four years ago)

I'm also interested in exactly what Lalo wants to talk to his lawyers about (Howard: "You need better lawyers!"), and how that will go, under the circumstances, and how they fit into his Plan A.

dow, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 19:39 (four years ago)

woah
Poor Howard
Annoyingly I didn't recognise the PI when Jimmy hands him the photos. Duh.

kinder, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 20:46 (four years ago)

It only just occurred to me another motive behind Kim's U-turn last week was it suddenly clicking that knowing Lalo was out there this may be the only opportunity to get the payout money and scram (with or without Jimmy, heh)

nashwan, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 21:19 (four years ago)

People have been retweeting this December 2021 photo from the set for, uh, no reason today:

Happy birthday pally! pic.twitter.com/hfMuhl911t

— Mr. Bob Odenkirk (@mrbobodenkirk) December 8, 2021

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 22:03 (four years ago)

I do hope that smothers the pace complaints.
s'all good, man.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 23:06 (four years ago)

One really funny detail to me was Lalo emerging from the sewer in the beginning of the episode, whereas the last time we saw him was in Germany, implying that he just took the sewer all the way back to America like he’s Super Mario

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 05:22 (four years ago)

lol that's exactly what I said. did he just take a shortcut back from Germany?

kinder, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 08:12 (four years ago)

also, are we not going to mention the Dark Crystal: The Musical gelfling?

kinder, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 08:13 (four years ago)

I think I may need to watch BB through again cos i'm not remembering who does and doesn't appear in that as opposed to early seasons of BCS.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 09:28 (four years ago)

Lalo emerging from the sewer reminded me, of all things--you'll know what I mean if you've seen the film--the Beatles' Help!.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 10:52 (four years ago)

wasnt he looking for evidence that Gus ordered the hit on him? and then he started producing a documentary on how cool his secret lab is?

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 11:02 (four years ago)

One really funny detail to me was Lalo emerging from the sewer in the beginning of the episode, whereas the last time we saw him was in Germany, implying that he just took the sewer all the way back to America like he’s Super Mario

― frogbs, Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:22 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

he has the stache for it

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:49 (four years ago)

It's-a me, Lalo!

*Blam*

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:59 (four years ago)

come to think of it, how does he get to Germany and back? he doesn't exactly have cartel resources, and I assume it's too risky to just fly commercial, even if the Feds think he's dead.

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:33 (four years ago)

there's a post credits teaser I had missed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL7ADEs-0oI

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 13:53 (four years ago)

I'd guess Lalo has a nice cache of passports and money and airport security is generally just for show anyway

mh, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 14:00 (four years ago)

Lalo took an international cab

Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:04 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyR3fSiwItw

Evan, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:34 (four years ago)

two really funny lines in this episode - Irene asking "is this how these things normally go?" and Howard to Lalo: "I suggest you find a better lawyer!"

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:49 (four years ago)

ok and also when Howard shows the photos to Cliff and it's just some weird looking dude in a moustache

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:52 (four years ago)

Lots of funny bits yeah, the trolleys/shopping carts rolling into the parked car was a great cap on a funny scene & then the whole routine with the film students, I love how naturally the sitcom-broad characters fit in among the noir

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 15:59 (four years ago)

yeah the camera man was like someone from an SNL sketch. and then the sound lady dressed in full elf makeup.

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:06 (four years ago)

speaking of someone tracked down Rhea Seehorn's first acting gig and uh...just watch some of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jp4tMSIr_U

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:07 (four years ago)

All the dialog in that "reshoot" scene in the park was a little too snappy, but yeah great episode and I was definitely laughing when the photos just showed Jimmy giving a frisbee back to the tall film student

Evan, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:07 (four years ago)

loved seeing john ennis and bob odenkirk together again

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:34 (four years ago)

even though i did keep waiting for bob to call him a "fatty fat fat fatty"

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 16:35 (four years ago)

Lalo emerging from the sewer reminded me, of all things--you'll know what I mean if you've seen the film--the Beatles' Help!.

― clemenza, Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:52 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Haha yes, what I thought of too

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:17 (four years ago)

📹


lol

Among all the shamelessly badass moments of either show that jump would be top 5 for me I think

That scene btw is why he’s back at his lawyers’, the bullethole-riddled car renders jimmy’s already not un-hole-riddled story sus - Kim was able to put him off with bluster while the clock was ticking for him to skip town but he’s obv since had time to think about it

However they get out of that it’s clear they’re fully in it now, with not just Howard’s body but the fallout from their campaign: seems like cliff believes Howard after he laid out what jimmy did & why (& was smart enough to say “because he’s a child & won’t wait” rather than “because he’s out to get me”) it’s all just gonna snowball now

Saul obv has his eye on that little black book, he’s about to be a millionaire, it’s a fairly short distance to breaking bad

Signposted beats & forgone conclusions aside it feels nicely unpredictable atm, when ppl talk about Kim leaving jimmy high & dry I could see that happening — “for his own good” maybe, & he then lives fully in the person she helped invent (I don’t think I clocked that she is from nebraska btw! But them meeting there would be too pat) — but for the first time in quite a while I feel like she could totally be dead by the end

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:25 (four years ago)

very curious what Lalo's plan is re: Saul & Kim. it didn't occur to me until afterwards that he came up with it on the fly after seeing the cockroach.

sometimes I think this show is too subtle for its own good but there are moments where it's really cool. I thought Howard teaching the intern the soda trick was a nice touch - he mentions that Chuck taught it to him, which makes sense because presumably Jimmy was shaking up soda cans all the time as a kid. the whole thing is like a microcosm of their whole relationship.

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:51 (four years ago)

(xxpost) Should have immediately cut from Lalo to the Beatles doing "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away," Kim sitting on a sofa and listening intently.

clemenza, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:02 (four years ago)

also interesting to note that by the time Saul is introduced in Breaking Bad (which iirc is 4 years after the events of the last BCS episode?), he thinks that Lalo is still alive

frogbs, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 18:08 (four years ago)

lol good ep

mark s, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 19:50 (four years ago)

Did you feel, as I do, that lalo is a lil stinker

gop on ya gingrich (wins), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 20:03 (four years ago)

BCS > BB

― PBKR, Thursday, May 19, 2022 10:06 AM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just a masterclass of pacing and tension all season long and what a payoff.

PBKR, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:27 (four years ago)

I know Lalo's supposed to be terrifying but whenever he's on screen I can only think of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gYE5TyijxE

frogbs, Thursday, 26 May 2022 01:51 (four years ago)

Better Sean Paul

calstars, Thursday, 26 May 2022 07:58 (four years ago)

More Jimmy, Les Paul (I mean Saul).

clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:01 (four years ago)

Think Lalo might have been too clever turning up at Saul n Kim's like that- if he's planning to use one/both of them against Gus (or Juan Bolsa?), Gus could get wind of it and know what's up. Just cos Michael is fooled by the phone call bluff doesn't mean Gus is

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:12 (four years ago)

Like the man says. "clever, clever chicken man"

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2022 11:12 (four years ago)

does "mid-season finale" mean there is now a gap?

mark s, Thursday, 26 May 2022 13:10 (four years ago)

Yeah. Back 11 July

groovypanda, Thursday, 26 May 2022 13:20 (four years ago)


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