campsite (darraghmac)Posted: 10 February 2021 at 02:20:40Actor- must have successful movie career (no chris noth)- must never have exhibited a single moment of facility in acting (no dreyfuss because that one laugh in jaws)- notable novelty element would mean a harder sell for the nominator (no arnie, no madonna, no david spade)- not liking them is for other ilx threads this is for being terrified at their lack of human presenceI mean this isnt comprehensive but i think its fair and indicativeBloom is runaway leader Radcliffe secondKnightley certainly a contenderNobody else rly yet
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link
I… disagree. Prob my least favourite child performance
― a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link
Newsies was good too.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:33 (two years ago) link
Least favorite? In that crowded field? You forgetting all those hambone Disney performances we endured?
Among the women I had the misfortune of enduring several Marsha Mason performances a few months ago during her beloved-by-Oscar period.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link
Also if Radcliffe is eligible for the honour then Taylor Lautner is way worse, truly the Bloom of his franchise
― a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link
Yeah but who’s casting Taylor Lautner in big films? Is he even still working?
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:41 (two years ago) link
I agree he is worse than DanRad btw, but his irrelevance might count against him
Lautner ain't done shit in years, his career pretty much got wrecked after his first post-Twilight flick with him as the centerpiece
― Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 19:43 (two years ago) link
i think quinto qualifies, i know the thread rules! :(
sam neill is fucking awesome
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 20:05 (two years ago) link
BABIES SMELL
― Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 20:08 (two years ago) link
"I'd include Tom Hiddlestone in that little batch."
lol I somehow mentally added a comma to that post at first, but then realised it's not the posters usual style!
talentless upper-class brit himbos like Hiddlestone will always get work, no matter how wooden and objectively bad they are at acting is the rules I'm afraid.
― calzino, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 20:09 (two years ago) link
ok fine maybe quinto is more of a tv actor who just happened to be cast as a major character into the reboot of a franchise than someone who has a successful film career but i say otherwise there is nothing there
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 20:13 (two years ago) link
He was fun the first series of Heroes!
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 20:14 (two years ago) link
What, Bale in Empire? He's brilliant. His career has mostly been a decline from there.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
Nobody else rly yet
Hayden Christensen
To be fair, I have not seen Shattered Glass.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
I have and I disagree.
― gyac, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 21:50 (two years ago) link
Respectable choices: Bloom, Benedict Cumberbatch, Eddie Redmayne, i.e. a generation of UK twits whose accents fool people into believing they're useful.
Tell me about it, the country is infested with them.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link
As a British I fear that it is not for me to judge Cumberbatch's performance in 'August: Osage County' so will leave it to others, however I do find it more "I hate it" than "terrified at his lack of human presence"
― Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link
He was amazing in Boyle's Frankenstein but that was a play and before anyone in the US knew him
― Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 22:39 (two years ago) link
and he gave his best performance to date in The Power of the Dog playing the version of himself that rendered him unwatchable for a decade.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 22:40 (two years ago) link
Hiddleston is good as a posh twat in a couple of early Joanna Hogg films
not much of a stretch mind...
― Number None, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 10:58 (two years ago) link
the keira knightley gifs upthread are hilarious; gyac doing incredible work
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:10 (two years ago) link
what about Kenneth Branagh?
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:11 (two years ago) link
Off with his head.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:42 (two years ago) link
I think KB can occasionally be enjoyably hammy, which is decidedly not the case with our bar actors. That said, I'm struggling to name an actual performance as evidence. Are Henry V or Much Ado still watchable? I liked them as an impressionable youth, but would heavily discount those feelings now
― rob, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:45 (two years ago) link
I don’t like KB at all but he is good in Henry V tbfttlc
― gyac, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:47 (two years ago) link
the problem is "the bar is Bloom" makes it very hard for me to come up with anyone!
I hate Branagh's Benedick, though. Thompson's Beatrice is a delight.
xp
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:49 (two years ago) link
i have never seen Henry V
He mugs like hell as Benedick, not pleasasntly. His Henry V is still solid and gets at the king's ease with casual cruelty too.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:50 (two years ago) link
yeah it’s not meant to be “never name anyone EVER” but like there’s a whole industry of mediocrities and actors who’ve maybe delivered one decent performance in their lives and every single one of them beats Bloom even if they were adlibbing an unmemorised script with diarrhoea. That, my friends, is the bar.
― gyac, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 13:52 (two years ago) link
lol gyac
ah yes that does ring a bell. iirc Michael Keaton's performance is also extremely damning evidence for deems' case against him upthread (probably Keanu too, but we've turned that horse into paste now)
― rob, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:01 (two years ago) link
I'm not mad about either Branagh's Henry V or Iago tbh.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:01 (two years ago) link
true but i love Keaton. i blame Branagh as a director for his performance. Keanu is kind of funny in it?
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:02 (two years ago) link
wow i’m glad i wasn’t reading this thread when deems built a case against michael keaton
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:06 (two years ago) link
It's possible! I mostly remember him feeling totally out of place, but that same quality mostly worked in Dracula so you might be right
oh no, I should check that it even was deems
― rob, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:08 (two years ago) link
So, drinks tonight at Bar Bloom or Bar Benedick?
― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:10 (two years ago) link
xpokay, "case" was off, more of a tentative suggestion that Old Lunch immediately quashed
still, it's hard to exaggerate how woefully awful Keaton is in Much Ado. I would advise actors who need to play a character that is spectacularly bad at acting to study that performance.
ftr, I have loved him in lots of other things, so I think horseshoe is correct that the direction is a big factor
― rob, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:12 (two years ago) link
Possibly wrong: George Wendt? John Ratzenberger is so good he sort of hides how wooden Wendt can be when he's not doing a traditional-Norm-zinger
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:22 (two years ago) link
I need to go do washing up/recycling but I leave you with my final For Your Considerations🖼🖼🖼🖼🖼
― gyac, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:46 (two years ago) link
Seemingly not, alas.https://i.gifer.com/embedded/download/P4KE.gifhttps://i.gifer.com/IJD5.gifhttps://data.whicdn.com/images/237926199/original.gifhttps://i.gifer.com/L4Pb.gifhow can you both under and overact in the same expressionhttps://media4.giphy.com/media/Of9u9vVSuT732/giphy-downsized.gif
― gyac, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 14:52 (two years ago) link
That's totally from the 'smell the fart' playbook!
― kinder, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 15:08 (two years ago) link
dogberry is an actor trap; agree it's prob branagh who didn't know any better than to push keaton into it. keanu puts a lot of that movie to shame imo: his readings are clunky but he is right there breathing inside the part. (it is the best part tho-- specifically because it insists on being in a diff play from everyone else-- so rob's "out of place" point applies.)
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link
shit, the one who acts as if he hadn't been introduced to the rest of the cast is Washington.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 15:35 (two years ago) link
I vaguely recall *none* of the Americans really working in that movie (maybe Robert Sean Leonard?), but I couldn't be mentioning Denzel itt
― rob, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 15:42 (two years ago) link
i don't know, Washington was so pretty back then; when Thompson's Beatrice says to his offer of marriage, "No, my lord, unless I might have another for working-days: your grace is too costly to wear every day" it really lands!
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 15:44 (two years ago) link
those bloom gifs are all so incredible
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link
he is acting as if he has a face and is aware that it is covered with skin
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 15:52 (two years ago) link
― horseshoe
agree!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 15:52 (two years ago) link
This is still Kevin Spacey.
― we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 16:58 (two years ago) link
i saw him in Moon for the Misbegotten once. he was so woefully miscast
― Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 17:05 (two years ago) link