Where Are We Runnin’? - American Politics Thread, May 2022

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So if the bill made exceptions for catholic hospitals, she'd sign?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 5 May 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link

I think we have better odds on changing the pope’s mind than her doing jack shit ever to help this, maybe even if he did.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Thursday, 5 May 2022 23:21 (two years ago) link

i won't be satisfied until i get another incredibly boring and self righteous one hour speech from susan collins which leaves the actual decision just out of reach for the first forty minutes

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 May 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link

hurt me susan

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 May 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link

i want you to bore the living hell out of me

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 5 May 2022 23:30 (two years ago) link

“In an interview with the San Antonio Report, Clyburn downplayed the significance of abortion among his party’s base.” #TX28 https://t.co/Syf2iakd9K

— Waleed Shahid (@_waleedshahid) May 6, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 02:24 (two years ago) link

hurt me susan

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, May 5, 2022 7:29 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i want you to bore the living hell out of me

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone),

She'll whip you with a Kazuo Ishiguro novel?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2022 02:50 (two years ago) link

'WE SHOULD NOT DEFUND': In new letter to ⁦@SpeakerPelosi⁩ obtained by @NBCNews, nearly 20 House Democrats — many vulnerable — call for a vote on legislation to boost police funding https://t.co/jwmjfA150n

— Scott Wong (@scottwongDC) May 6, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 18:23 (two years ago) link

In an effort to address rising crime rates

luv how this is taken for granted

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link

Despicable.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 6 May 2022 19:55 (two years ago) link

“Cutting to the bone only weakens any profession; it pushes good people out, diminishes overall quality, and fuels a race to the bottom. That’s especially true in law enforcement,” the lawmakers wrote.


I wonder if there are any other professions we can think of that are suffering from funding problems. Probably not, it’s just the cops

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 May 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link

Maybe public school teachers? Does that make sense? No, that can’t be right.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 6 May 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link

Cops as teachers.

DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 6 May 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link

Starting to think they shouldn’t let Joe speak in public.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 May 2022 22:52 (two years ago) link

Good news:

In a sign that federal labor officials are closely scrutinizing management behavior during union campaigns, the National Labor Relations Board said Friday that it had found merit in accusations that Amazon and Starbucks had violated labor law.

At Amazon, the labor board found merit to charges that the company had required workers to attend anti-union meetings at a vast Staten Island warehouse where the Amazon Labor Union won a stunning election victory last month. The determination was communicated to the union Friday by an attorney for the labor board’s regional office in Brooklyn, according to Seth Goldstein, a lawyer representing the union.

Such meetings, often known as “captive audience” meetings, are legal under current labor board precedent. But last month, the board’s general counsel, Jennifer Abruzzo, issued a memo saying that the precedent was at odds with the underlying federal statute, and she indicated that she would seek to challenge it.

In the same filing of charges, the Amazon Labor Union accused the company of threatening to withhold benefits from employees if they voted to unionize, and of inaccurately indicating to employees that they could be fired if the warehouse were to unionize and they failed to pay union dues. The labor board also found merit to these accusations, according to an email from the attorney at the regional office, Matt Jackson.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 May 2022 09:35 (two years ago) link

Steve Schmidt going ham on John and Meghan McCain is quite the spectacle.

https://steveschmidt.substack.com/p/no-books-no-money-just-the-truth?s=r

yeah this is way outside the usual dirt:

During my final call with the lobbyist, as she heard my young kids crying in the background, she told me that she wished that they could die so that I could share the depths of pain she felt when John McCain called her a “good friend” during his news conference denying the relationship. Twenty minutes later, John McCain called me panicked – he insisted that I apologize to her, or else his campaign would be over. I told John to “fuck himself,” and yet again, against my better judgment, I returned to the campaign trail.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2022 14:24 (two years ago) link

You see, when I was 36 years old, I did not understand the difference between integrity and loyalty.

O RLY

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 9 May 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link

wonder if he’s just sad he fell out of the news cycle after the lincoln project crap blew up

he probably has a book coming out, right?

oh, he’s specifically tweeted that he does _not_ have a book coming out. just the substack. lol

mh, Monday, 9 May 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link

i can't wait to read cindy and meghan mccain's rejoinders on their substacks

he seems the most angry at all about meghan mccain. has she just been making fun of him on the view for the last 10 years or something? i missed some of that drama on account of it involving either a steve schmidt or meghan mccain

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 May 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link

this kicked off yesterday after Meghan McCain liked a tweet that said that ran a pedo ring

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link

that he (Schmidt) ran one

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link

damn, i always forget that conservatives are having a moment with pedophilia right now, circular firing squad

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 May 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

tbf the other project lincoln guy might have been

mh, Monday, 9 May 2022 16:08 (two years ago) link

My god can we just bring back Mr. Choppy already?

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 9 May 2022 16:17 (two years ago) link

Political hatchet men turning the blade on everyone they ever collected a paycheck from is one of my favorite sports.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 9 May 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link

A winning message.

We need to get away from the idea that every kid has to go to college. Normalize treating trade school as important as a 4-year degree.

— Congressman Tim Ryan (@RepTimRyan) May 8, 2022

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:00 (two years ago) link

It is tho! There is more honor in being a tradesperson than having a fucking mba

It is = it should be

college is a scam but i wonder if tim ryan is addressing the actual problem by proposing free trade school oh wait

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link

I totally agree….but why do I have the sneaking suspicion that this refrain from the gop and Sensible Centrists Dems just amounts to more misery for normal ppl?

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:25 (two years ago) link

Many's the day I wish I'd become a union plumber or HVAC repairman.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:26 (two years ago) link

At a moment when public education receives less dough than ever from state capitols and academics like me get pummeled daily, getting to the right of the GOP on education is precisely what we need.

Look, kidding aside, I've been saying the same thing for years. My electrician is better educated and has more honor than an MBA (any "College of Business" is a racket). But I'm not running for Senate -- yet. Floridians, you're on notice.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link

I think trade schools are good options, and at the same time I always bristle at the right's embrace of CTE because it goes hand-in-hand with their contempt for higher education more broadly. I'm sure in their mind there's limited risk of trade schools going woke on them.

People go to college because there are fewer and fewer jobs that provide a living wage you can get without a four-year degree. that won't change until companies stop listing it as a basic job requirement. Once "trade schools" have the same prevalence in job listings as a bachelor's degree the institutions that award them will start charging exorbitant tuition too. And it'll still be used a quick and legal way to weed out the majority of applicants in a market with far more applicants than jobs.

I'd also force companies that hired college grads to pay the student loan debts of their hires. They're the ones that chiefly benefit from the education, so they should be paying the cost of it.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 9 May 2022 18:13 (two years ago) link

I wish I'd become a union plumber

And you get paid while you're training, rather than paying for it

My late stepdad was a union electrician (Int'l Brotherhood) and made a boatload of money, more than I'll ever make

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 9 May 2022 18:54 (two years ago) link

i work for a trade school and we are working directly with employers to remove degree requirements. they have to play along, they don't really have a choice in this market xx

global tetrahedron, Monday, 9 May 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link

The trades suck, don't pay particularly well (outside of some heavily unionized states) and destroy your body. Every single plumber/HVAC/electrician I grew up around (because my father and grandfather were roofers before going into more general contracting) had awful back and knee problems - sometimes multiple surgeries (and sometimes not, because surgery is expensive and it's not really a gold plan insurance included with your job kind of world). 99% of the time I hear someone pining about the glories of the trades, they themselves have a college degree and work in air conditioning.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 9 May 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

They all wound up dead early (because working class men) or had to go to work for Lowe's or Home Depot when they aged out of being able to climb up a ladder into an attic to work for eight hours in 105F heat.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 9 May 2022 19:30 (two years ago) link

.@POTUS strongly believes in the Constitutional right to protest. But that should never include violence, threats, or vandalism. Judges perform an incredibly important function in our society, and they must be able to do their jobs without concern for their personal safety.

— Jen Psaki (@PressSec) May 9, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 9 May 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link

Meet 5/9--the new 1/6

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 9 May 2022 19:42 (two years ago) link

Every single plumber/HVAC/electrician I grew up around (because my father and grandfather were roofers before going into more general contracting) had awful back and knee problems

Yeah, my uncle was an independent handyman for the last 20 years or so of his career. He was a big guy, and by the time he got to age 60, it got really hard for him to do the work — climbing ladders, getting under porches, etc. He basically had to retire early and go on disability, which was not much of a retirement. His oldest son had to move in to take care of him until he died.

I do think you can do all right at the levels a couple above where my uncle was, he wasn't a skilled electrician or anything like that. But it's true that almost all of the trades are hard and physical work, and outside of union jobs don't have great benefits.

As my grandfather said, "Of course work sucks — that's why they have to pay you to do it."

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:41 (two years ago) link

all jobs under capitalism require sacrificing some part of your body or soul to constant repetition and degradation.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:45 (two years ago) link

there's education and then there's institutional education as it exists in the united states, two very different things that very very occasionally coincide.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link

all jobs under capitalism require sacrificing some part of your body or soul to constant repetition and degradation.

― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map)

like bad sex

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link

--Bob Marley

bahd sex

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link

Not all jobs under capitalism carry similar risks of heatstroke or ‘cutting off a finger.’

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link

well, you can get an MBA and cut figurative and occasionally literal fingers from the working class

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 May 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link


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