Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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In any case, if you think Scots or Scottish English is considered just hunky dory you should visit the UK sometime.

Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:06 (four years ago)

oh right of course

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:07 (four years ago)

I understand the point being made, and it's one I was already aware of. I'd also understand your fervor on this point if I had actually complained about a non-standard usage that was specifically associated with a particular ethnic or other group. Complaints about non-standard or "wrong" usage may in general be conservative or even reactionary (to use your word), but I don't think every one has to be necessarily rooted in racism or other forms of oppression. I don't generally view any language as being diseased or decaying, rather evolving, and my use of the word "plague," while perhaps ill-advised, was tongue-in-cheek.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:09 (four years ago)

A plague on both your usages!

Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:22 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nydUgAr3xek

Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:27 (four years ago)

Out of curiosity, I searched every post I've made to this thread and found only three instances where I expressed annoyance at particular words or phrases: "eye candy" as dehumanizing when applied to humans, "pissed" used as equivalent to "pissed off" instead of meaning "drunk", and the mock-sophisticated phrase "not unlike".

Incidentally, during my search I ran across f. hazel's most resplendent otm post among all 8000+ posts in this thread:

the amount of info we can convey with language across even the noisiest channels should make you weep with joy each morning upon waking, it's probably one of the most amazing things in the entire universe. and all the various things people complain about are, for the most part, manifestations of an underlying playfulness that is essential to making language work as well as it does.

― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Monday, April 13, 2020

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 17:59 (four years ago)

let's table that for now

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 26 April 2022 18:13 (four years ago)

I'll piggyback on that and say we need to calendar it for next week, we'll touch base then.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:20 (four years ago)

grammar maven BS

Quoth the maven,"I'm a bore."

Fifty Centaur (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 19:40 (four years ago)

f.hazel OTM, but speakers being pissed off by words, usages and phrases is part of the resilience and durability of languages, which otherwise would dissolve into a soup of catchy argot and burn their continuity with past writers.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:42 (four years ago)

language is a land of contrasts

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 20:43 (four years ago)

Truly is a "land of confusion"

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:22 (four years ago)

on the contrary, I would say it’s a tower f. hazel

middot • is • my • middle • name (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:28 (four years ago)

A cloud of unknowing

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:28 (four years ago)

A miasma of mystery

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 22:41 (four years ago)

A chocolate-coated mystery

wrapped in an enigma

Then a layer of paradox

Then a tasty nougat center

With peanuts

Unless you're allergic

In which case, no peanuts

Fifty Centaur (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 04:57 (four years ago)

Not my personal annoyance, but I was in line with some people on Record Store Day and was getting along with them pretty well, but then one of them turned out to be the type of person who has a revulsion towards the word "moist". It's a fairly common dislike, but to me it seems maybe too common? Like, it's the bacon of words that annoy.

peace, man, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 12:42 (four years ago)

Yeah, I feel like I remember discussing this phenomenon recently (maybe even on ILX?) of how it started out as being something that genuinely annoyed certain people, and was even slightly funny in that Seinfeld sort of way, but a bunch of people who had never given a second thought to the word "moist" jumped on the "I hate moist" bandwagon in a bacony way. Personally, I am indifferent to "moist."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 12:58 (four years ago)

a good friend of mine in the early 90s told me of her disgust for this partic phrase:

"moist gusset"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:12 (four years ago)

…and so they went with Wet Leg

#onethread

middot • is • my • middle • name (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:39 (four years ago)

nice

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:57 (four years ago)

Moist metaphors are the trombone in the soup of language.

Fifty Centaur (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 13:59 (four years ago)

she also hated all forms of the verb "to pump"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 14:12 (four years ago)

but the worst was probably "pumpin'"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 14:12 (four years ago)

i have warmed on moist but will never give up on mouthfeel

towards fungal computer (harbl), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 14:13 (four years ago)

Probably not the correct thread, but I fear that the word 'losing' (in its correct context) is slowly morphing into the spelling 'loosing', I keep seeing old and young people misspelling it online.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:17 (four years ago)

I'm sure that was happening before online too

rob, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:22 (four years ago)

A chocolate-coated mystery

wrapped in an enigma

Then a layer of paradox

Then a tasty nougat center

With peanuts

Unless you're allergic

In which case, no peanuts


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjVKUap1HgU
#onethread

Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:25 (four years ago)

TS: pump vs bobo honkin'

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 16:06 (four years ago)

Something about being "at the pump" is really funny to me.

jmm, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 16:12 (four years ago)

A ton of people substitute weary for wary.
“I’m weary of strangers”

pj, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 16:30 (four years ago)

Maybe they mean weary, tho

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 16:32 (four years ago)

"I'm wary of stranglers"

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 16:45 (four years ago)

Yeah, I feel like I remember discussing this phenomenon recently (maybe even on ILX?) of how it started out as being something that genuinely annoyed certain people, and was even slightly funny in that Seinfeld sort of way, but a bunch of people who had never given a second thought to the word "moist" jumped on the "I hate moist" bandwagon in a bacony way. Personally, I am indifferent to "moist."


I also feel this way about fear of clowns and appreciation of the word elbow.

Alba, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:02 (four years ago)

And disapproval of wearing socks with sandals.

Alba, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:03 (four years ago)

some ppl actually are afraid of clowns tho

mark s, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:08 (four years ago)

Some

Alba, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:18 (four years ago)

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21835-coulrophobia-fear-of-clowns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLtwtE4wuJc

Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:26 (four years ago)

i think i'm on record as absolutely with the idea that fear of clowns is a tired exaggerated meme

never heard the elbow thing

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:39 (four years ago)

i realize that blurbs on novels have one foot in hell to start with, but please, enough with

'one of our (X)est writers'
'deeply human'

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:52 (four years ago)

My 11-year-old son asked me the other day if I had trypophobia. That was a new one on me.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:54 (four years ago)

Buffandmaxsson?

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:55 (four years ago)

first heard the elbow thing in The Singing Detective, I think.

fetter, Thursday, 28 April 2022 07:57 (four years ago)

I’ve conflated two things in my mind. “Elbow is the loveliest word in the English language” is indeed from The Singing Detective, and it annoyed me when indie plodders said they’d chosen it as their band name for that reason - like, find your own word to like. But I don’t think anyone else really goes on about it much. The phrase “cellar door” is the one that has become a phonaesthetic cliche. I mean, yes it’s nice but let’s move on.

Alba, Thursday, 28 April 2022 09:32 (four years ago)

“Countercultural” is beginning to annoy me in its wide usage, lazy/hazy associations and general lack of meaning.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 April 2022 09:52 (four years ago)

so much for jimbeaux to enjoy on this thread:
Trypophilia and Trypophobia: A Picture Thread? (Not exactly NSFW but some deeply disturbing images in here)

mark s, Thursday, 28 April 2022 10:18 (four years ago)

'Cellar door' ???!!!

the pinefox, Thursday, 28 April 2022 10:24 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hP34ky5H_0

I have a recording of this which starts with John Peel saying 'CELLAR DOOR'.

Hope poster Alba doesn't hear it.

the pinefox, Thursday, 28 April 2022 10:25 (four years ago)

i blame tolkien

in earthsea the westernmost island, where none but dragons and dragonlords go, is called SELIDOR (which is like an annoying way of saying "cellar door")

mark s, Thursday, 28 April 2022 10:37 (four years ago)

"this is us, just, you know, ideating"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:23 (four years ago)


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