ok what the fuck is happening in ukraine

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I imagine eventually the holdouts will starve, unless there is some way to get food in?

o. nate, Thursday, 21 April 2022 17:47 (four years ago)

Wonder how far the tunnels go, can they be connected with anything outside the occupied zone---?

dow, Thursday, 21 April 2022 17:51 (four years ago)

This sounds strangely like a reprise of siege warfare from the middle ages, with Azovstal in the role of the central "keep", where defenders could retreat if the city walls were breached.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:03 (four years ago)

The problem on the Russian side of things comes down to holding said extra land, which I suspect is, how you say, not in the firmest of grips.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:05 (four years ago)

On top of which

Stat of the day that I wasn’t expecting. Russian tank losses have been so high and Ukrainian so low, (and the Ukrainians have received so many new tanks and seized so many working Russian ones) that Ukraine has more tanks available now in country than Russia. https://t.co/7MDtwElx9i

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) April 21, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:07 (four years ago)

Related:

DoD update on Day 57 of 🇷🇺 invasion of 🇺🇦: senior U.S. defense official

• 🇺🇸 could get first howitzer artillery to 🇺🇦 by this weekend
• 🇺🇸 is giving 🇺🇦 121 new "Phoenix Ghost" drones designed specifically for war with 🇷🇺
• 🇺🇦 now has MORE tanks than 🇷🇺 on the battlefield

— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) April 21, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 April 2022 18:08 (four years ago)

Yeah, and one reason, maybe the main one, aside from the sheer size of the steel plamt complex, with basic challenge of ferreting through all that, with any number of troops--is that he needs to send a lot of those troops, and machinery, on to the East, while keeping enough in place to keep control. (The Wagners and Syrians have so far barely trickled into combat areas) MSNBC now reporting civilians of all ages in complex too, hundreds of thousands outside not allowed to evacuate frpm Mari, Russian troops in East being ordered to kill Ukraine POVs...

dow, Thursday, 21 April 2022 20:10 (four years ago)

I lost my temper. A thread on Jacobin and their position on Ukraine. 1/

— Taras Bilous (@ahatanhel) April 22, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 April 2022 10:17 (four years ago)

KYIV/MARIUPOL, April 22 (Reuters) - Moscow wants to take full control over southern Ukraine, a Russian general said on Friday, a statement Ukraine said gave the lie to Russia's previous assertions that it had no territorial ambitions.

Rustam Minnekayev, deputy commander of Russia's central military district, was quoted by Russian state news agencies as saying full control over southern Ukraine would give it access to a breakaway, Russian-occupied part of Moldova in the west.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-fighters-hold-putin-claims-victory-mariupol-2022-04-22/

dow, Friday, 22 April 2022 19:53 (four years ago)

Saw that.

Granny Takes a Tripos (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 April 2022 19:59 (four years ago)

And as if in response to that

⚡️ Military intelligence: 2 Russian generals killed near Kherson.

According to Defense Ministry’s Intelligence Directorate, the military hit a Russian command post near occupied regional capital Kherson, allegedly killing two Russian generals and wounding one.

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) April 23, 2022

Meantime

Big news. Biden’s Pentagon chief and top diplomat set to meet Zelensky in Kyiv next week.

Austin is heading to Germany first for a meeting of up to 40 nations on arming Ukraine. https://t.co/0RPaJn2v3v

— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) April 23, 2022

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 April 2022 19:33 (four years ago)

From Deutsche Welle updates:

Russian forces attempting to storm Azovstal plant in Mariupol
Ukrainian presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych has said Sunday Russian forces are again attempting to storm the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol where Ukrainian forces and civilians are sheltering following a weeks-long siege of the southern port city.

On Facebook, Arestovych wrote, "Russian troops are trying to finish off the defenders of Azovstal and more than 1,000 civilians who are hiding at the plant."

Russian troops have surrounded the plant since early March. On Saturday, Ukrainian officials issued similar warnings and said Russian forces were laying siege to the plant.

Switzerland impedes German arms deliveries: report
Switzerland has blocked the re-export from Germany to Ukraine of Swiss-produced ammunition used in German-made Marder infantry fighting vehicles, according to the Swiss newspaper SonntagsZeitung.

The move by Switzerland, which maintains a neutral status, has held up arms deliveries by Germany at a time when Berlin is already under fire for failing to supply Ukraine with heavy weapons to help fight off Russia's invasion of the country.

Switzerland has gone against previous practice and adopted EU sanctions aimed at punishing Russia for its invasion, but has insisted its neutrality does not allow it to send arms to conflict zones. Swiss officials have previously rejected Poland's request for the Alpine state to send arms to Ukraine.

The Marder vehicles are made by German arms manufacturer Rheinmetall but use Swiss-manufactured ammunition.

Ukraine blames Russian troops for forcibly recruiting civilians
Ukraine has accused Russian troops of forcibly recruiting civilians in occupied regions of eastern Ukraine.

In addition to young people, doctors were being targeted in the Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, and Kharkiv regions, Ukrainian military officials wrote on Facebook.

The UK's Ministry of Defense also noted similar conscription practices in the Russian-occupied Donbas and Crimea.

"Any enlistment of Ukrainian civilians into the Russian armed forces, even if presented by Russia as being voluntary or military service in accordance with Russian law, would constitute a violation of Article 51 of the Fourth Geneva Convention," the UK Ministry of Defense wrote on Twitter.

IAEA to provide Ukraine with equipment to keep nuclear plants running
Ukraine has asked the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) for the equipment it needs to operate nuclear power plants during the war with Russia.

The agency says it includes radiation measurement devices, protective material, computer-related assistance, power supply systems, and diesel generators.

"We will coordinate the implementation of the assistance that the IAEA and its member states will provide, including by delivering required equipment directly to Ukraine's nuclear sites," IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi said.
Ukraine has 15 operational reactors at four plants.

Grossi was due to visit the decommissioned Chernobyl plant next week, on the anniversary of the 1986 disaster there.


Much more:
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-blames-russia-for-mariupol-evacuation-failure-live-updates/a-61571371

dow, Sunday, 24 April 2022 17:19 (four years ago)

https://www.politico.eu/article/in-the-face-of-war-ukraine-jews-embrace-a-dual-identity/

the John Mearsheimer Views Explosion (MoominTrollin), Monday, 25 April 2022 01:49 (four years ago)

Thanks for that! And I didn't know about the European edition of Politico, will be reading more.

dow, Monday, 25 April 2022 05:34 (four years ago)

somebody should have told her a refugee isn't just for Christmas

Number One shlong in Devon (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 April 2022 11:31 (four years ago)

Big hearted Britain.

Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Monday, 25 April 2022 12:10 (four years ago)

What the fuck is happening in Ukraine?
Ain’t nothin going on but the rent

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 April 2022 15:45 (four years ago)

Spent this morning visiting a shelter for Ukrainian refugees in Tijuana.

Spent the afternoon at a shelter @ImmDef visits regularly to provide legal services to mostly Haitian & Central American families.

The differences between the two are stark and soul-shattering. 🧵

— Lindsay Toczylowski (@L_Toczylowski) April 22, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 07:51 (four years ago)

A story about the preservation of Ukrainian culture during the war:

https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/putin-russia-destruction-ukraine-culture-heritage-isis-shadows-project-1589358

The latest news from the "European values" front:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/20/germany-refugee-policy-afghanistan-ukraine/

Germany Is Displacing Afghan Refugees to Make Way for Ukrainians

But also more news about Ukraine:

https://english.nv.ua/nation/terror-and-looting-in-the-farming-villages-that-bore-the-brunt-of-russia-s-eastern-push-towards-kyiv-50236045.html

Noam CHOAMsky - I did not say this. I am not here. (MoominTrollin), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 06:58 (four years ago)

Bumping this up

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 18:01 (four years ago)

i expect this will be good in helping to determine what the fuck is going on in the ukraine

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 18:31 (four years ago)

I'm surprised more people aren't more bothered about this:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/27/boris-johnson-tempting-evil-revealing-ukrainian-soldiers-trained-poland

It seems a total dick move.

djh, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:22 (four years ago)

Well, Boris Johnson is a total dick after all.

Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:26 (four years ago)

Of course.

It just seems like a move that will get people killed.

djh, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:29 (four years ago)

A somewhat thorough rundown on diplomatic negotiations so far, and the effects of Bucha atrocities, sinking of the Moskva, and other events on said discussions for either side:

(article is in Russian but chrome has a useful translate function, hope it's available in other browsers)

https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-61241525

Noam CHOAMsky - I did not say this. I am not here. (MoominTrollin), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:56 (four years ago)

"The Ukrainian work that pre-dated the seizure of Crimea was a continuation of existing programmes, and we know the Russians seem to be using other marine mammals, including belugas in the Arctic," Lambert added in an email.
And Russia isn't the only country to do this kind of work with marine mammals. In fact, the U.S. Navy has a history of similar programs, and it trains dolphins as well as seals for similar purposes to this day. Here's a look at why dolphins make good defenders and which countries rely on them.
Ugh.
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/29/1095549251/russia-dolphins-black-sea-naval-base

Reminds me of this movie, and Dr. John Lilly, who I knew via his writing about acid and dolphins, which the Pentagon wanted him to train for Vietnam, but he was like gross fuck you---as wiki sez:

As of March 2022, The Day of the Dolphin holds a rating of 43% on Rotten Tomatoes based on 28 reviews.[17]

Differences from the novel and other sources of inspiration
Merle's novel, a satire of the Cold War, is supposedly the basis for this film, but the film's plot was substantially different from that of the novel. The movie is instead inspired in part from the scientist John C. Lilly's life. A physician, biophysicist, neuroscientist, and inventor, Lilly specialized in the study of consciousness. In 1959, he founded the Communications Research Institute at St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands and served as its director until 1968. There he worked with dolphins exploring dolphin intelligence and human-dolphin communication.

See also Bottlenose dolphin communication and John Lilly and cetacean communication.

dow, Saturday, 30 April 2022 03:29 (four years ago)

Let’s talk about the state of the war and one of the most underreported yet crucially important issues:

Russian blockade of Ukrainian ports and resulting strangulation of the country’s economy 🧵

— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) April 30, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 April 2022 11:12 (four years ago)

Really interesting bigger pic

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Saturday, 30 April 2022 17:17 (four years ago)

As ever it's second hand and then some but the Twitter feeds I've been following on the conflict have been noting over the last couple of days that whatever the Russian big advance was supposed to have been seems to have slowed noticeably. Probably explains why Gerasimov's been sent there but it doesn't seem to have changed anything else. Some points of note:

Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine - 30 April 2022

Find out more about the UK government's response: https://t.co/TU1DzgHpEu

🇺🇦 #StandWithUkraine 🇺🇦 pic.twitter.com/mfMgJGMqAL

— Ministry of Defence 🇬🇧 (@DefenceHQ) April 30, 2022

If these Ukrainian claims are at all accurate (it should be noted that documented, photographed claims of Russian losses are about two thirds of those claimed, so they certainly should not be out by much) then the Russians have lost 217 tanks and 404 APCs since the battle started

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) April 30, 2022

Even if they are exaggerrated by 20 percent, Russian losses would be extreme, around 20 full strength BTGs worth? And according to the Pentagon, the Russians have 92 BTGs in Ukraine. https://t.co/OfxADElCBF

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) April 30, 2022

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 April 2022 21:01 (four years ago)

Meantime, supposedly another Russian general's been killed:

Ukrainian sources are claiming this artillery strike on a 2nd Army Russian command post near Izyum, Kharkiv Oblast, killed Major General Andrey Simonov.

It's yet to be confirmed by Russian sources but it's significant they named a specific general. pic.twitter.com/bohq0iX56G

— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) April 30, 2022

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 April 2022 21:03 (four years ago)

Those O'Brien tweets are excellent quality.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 30 April 2022 21:10 (four years ago)

He's been solid these past few months. And I appreciate his regular noting that what happened with Syria shouldn't be ignored now that everyone's paying more attention.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 April 2022 21:16 (four years ago)

“Where there is war, you’ll find a Palestinian, a Yemeni and a Syrian. So here we are in Ukraine,” said Vail Albekhesi, 51, a Palestinian who came in 1989.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/28/ukraine-muslims-decry-russian-invasion/

A couple pieces from March on Chechens fighting for Ukraine:

https://oc-media.org/features/we-have-only-one-enemy-this-is-russia-the-chechens-taking-up-arms-for-ukraine/

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/chechens-fighting-chechens-in-ukraine/

Noam CHOAMsky - I did not say this. I am not here. (MoominTrollin), Sunday, 1 May 2022 03:28 (four years ago)

Last month, on BBC Worldwide, a Chechen guy was saying, "It's Chechens versus Chechens," fighting on both sides, his tone was like, "Business as usual," if not, "Duh."

dow, Sunday, 1 May 2022 03:47 (four years ago)

Interesting. Per this short thread, turns out that the Russian general killed yesterday was collateral damage because they were actually trying to get Geramisov, and he was apparently wounded at least per reports, though no full confirmation yet.

The Ukrainian ability to process and act on important intelligence reaches to the top of the Kremlin. Maybe now they might have an idea of the country they so stupidly chose to attack. https://t.co/HbqldvijFn

— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) May 1, 2022

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 1 May 2022 16:24 (four years ago)

watching the old campist left go on and on about denazification as if all 44 million ukranians are azov has been embarassing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 2 May 2022 15:14 (four years ago)

To put it mildly!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 May 2022 15:18 (four years ago)

Ugh, seriously.

DJI, Monday, 2 May 2022 15:33 (four years ago)

the russian zip-up uniforms are mas macho

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 2 May 2022 16:13 (four years ago)

Interesting thread, especially the final points.

Kirill Budanov, the head of the Ukrainian Military Intelligence (GUR), sat down with NV for a rather long interview. Here are some of the key takeaways for me. /1https://t.co/9LdSlRF4wS

— Mattia Nelles (@mattia_n) May 2, 2022

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 May 2022 21:20 (four years ago)

watching the old campist left go on and on about denazification as if all 44 million ukranians are azov has been embarassing


Have literally had to mute people about this recently, it’s so myopic and disappointing.

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 2 May 2022 22:14 (four years ago)

Don't put the cart before the horse.

https://i.imgur.com/5RGTbeQ.png

Noam CHOAMsky - I did not say this. I am not here. (MoominTrollin), Monday, 2 May 2022 23:11 (four years ago)

An eyesore for shore.

dow, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 00:19 (four years ago)

Russia doubling down on Lavrov's comments. Lecturing Jews about the Nazis, not a great look, to be honest.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/moscow-under-fire-for-hitler-comments-says-israel-backing-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/

Was Hitler a Hobbit? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 11:52 (four years ago)

Expecting a good faith discussion with Russia is foolish

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 12:07 (four years ago)

me having read (the almost unendurable) bloodlands a month ago or so, that lavrov shit is unfuckingbelievable. feeling actual fury.

The Hon. Christian Sharia (R - MO) (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 14:15 (four years ago)

The only reason it doesn't enrage me more is that it's pretty hard to be like, "ok THAT'S it, THAT'S the last straw" after the kind of rhetoric they've used from the outset

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 3 May 2022 14:31 (four years ago)

It's like with Trump, when every straw is the last straw, it's harder to recognise, process or even care about the massive fuckery. It's tiring by design.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 3 May 2022 14:42 (four years ago)


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