ok what the fuck is happening in ukraine

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War Reddit was quick to spot that the Alligator-class landing ship that sank in Berdiansk was one of 2 still active after being initially commissioned in... 1964

Also, the sunken ship is now blocking the port.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:47 (two years ago) link

As tempting as it is, I'm pretty leery of mocking Russia's creaky military capabilities... Putin might just be "Oh yeah? Well check this out!" and start launching chemical, biological, tactical nukes.. like a cornered rat lashing out

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link

That said, BBC had a couple Ukrainian soldiers showing the reporter what the Russians were eating... stolen chickens and MRE's that had expired in 2015

Just sad all around

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:58 (two years ago) link

Yeah I mean...I'm not saying truly world-shattering shit can't still happen, but my feelings a month ago are rather different than now. That ship being sunk is definitely part of it; whether here or elsewhere someone was saying that this was about all the 'victories' they could show on Russian TV, that they were bringing in supplies that way, and now, pfft.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:11 (two years ago) link

You know, Groucho Marx predicted all this:

"The pay of the common soldier is also reduced to a minimum — determined purely by the production costs necessary to procure him. But he exchanges the performance of his services not for capital, but for the revenue of the state. for Ukrainian carpets, blenders, toasters, TVs, iPhones, and fur coats."

https://i.imgur.com/KtCrMAD.jpg?1

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link

I thought that was Zeppo tbh

takin' care of bismuth (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link

I think home court advantage is seriously at play here

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link

Judensau is worse than "Jewish pig." It actually means "Jewish pigfucker."

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:38 (two years ago) link

No? Sau is German for swine.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:41 (two years ago) link

See also: Lou Castel cursing people out in his role as the doppelgänger of the director in a certain German film about making a film.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:56 (two years ago) link

Part of an interesting thread about a book re: nationalities and the collapse of the USSR, but this page stands out in light of current events:

The rhetoric from Yeltsin’s office about Russian claims to Ukrainian territory is honestly indistinguishable from Putin’s: pic.twitter.com/TpVScZ5Jtw

— Casey Michel 🇰🇿 (@cjcmichel) March 23, 2022

Another interesting bit is Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's ideas about a "Slavic core" of the Russian/Soviet empire apparently influencing Yeltsin with his idea that Russia/Ukraine/Belarus should all be one Slavic state, on the solid ground of "historic Russian lands."

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:34 (two years ago) link

xp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judensau

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:39 (two years ago) link

(NFSW--there are some ugly, ugly images in there.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link

Ugh. Thanks. Just looking at the summary text now through google, not looking at the images yet.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:43 (two years ago) link

Any validity to this? Or hot air?

International hacking collective Anonymous claims to have exploited Russia's Central Bank - and is threatening to release 35,000 files which include 'secret agreements' in the next 48 hours.

The bank is responsible for protecting and ensuring the safety of the ruble, the Russian currency which has plummeted in value since the invasion of Ukraine began last month.

In a post on Twitter late last night by one of the group's accounts, Anonymous revealed its latest hack, though details were limited..

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:49 (two years ago) link

pfft you're an anonymous hacking group, if you have 'secret agreement' documents just fucking release them or shut up

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 25 March 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link

Has Anonymous lived up to their boasts even once?

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 25 March 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link

not that I know of!

thinkmanship (sleeve), Friday, 25 March 2022 00:29 (two years ago) link

Some of Anonymous' data dumps over the past couple of weeks have been interesting but I'd hesitate to say that any of it had strategic value. It does makes for good propaganda though and seeing assholes contort themselves into the most ridiculous statements ("Nestlé denies it was hacked by Anonymous, claiming it accidentally leaked data dump itself") is great. I think the ICIJ, OCCRP, Bellingcat, and Ukrainian Radio Watchers are doing far better work though.

The Squad 303 group's "message a Russian" script was interesting to run for awhile. I'm pretty sure most didn't go through but I did get a couple of failed callback attempts.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 25 March 2022 01:30 (two years ago) link

Has Anonymous lived up to their boasts even once?

― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:28 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

although it's phrased as a question, OTM

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 25 March 2022 01:31 (two years ago) link

As tempting as it is, I'm pretty leery of mocking Russia's creaky military capabilities...

I dunno. I know I keep mentioning this, but back in 2011, Russia itself was saying that 20% of its entire military budget was stolen (can we presume that the actual amount is much higher?). Then in 2018, Russian military expenditure dropped for the first time - presumably scrapping whatever modernization programs were happening.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 25 March 2022 02:12 (two years ago) link

Where that money went:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKYL0H0lgqg

fair warning: homophobia in some lyrics, sarcasm in the refrain; song is from 2009, but at minimum selling half of your diesel is still considered "a human right" in the army. Make of it what you will.

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Friday, 25 March 2022 02:53 (two years ago) link

Look, that wasn’t so hard. H/t @owenhatherley pic.twitter.com/SEj1ZgcPjh

— Keith Gessen (@keithgessen) March 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 March 2022 11:43 (two years ago) link

Focusing on the issues!

Putin is making a live address. He's currently whining about how Hollywood refuses to make movies about the Russian contribution to defeating Nazi Germany and claiming "progressives" are trying to "cancel Russia".

— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 25, 2022



Putin doing a live speech and just did a bit on "cancel culture" in the West focusing particularly on J. K. Rowling being cancelled. I wish I was joking.

— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) March 25, 2022

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 12:35 (two years ago) link

Positively (or negatively) Trumpian

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 25 March 2022 12:39 (two years ago) link

Will he pull the troops out if the West promises to uncancel JK Rowling

Sam Weller, Friday, 25 March 2022 13:31 (two years ago) link

It appears another general is gone

Ukrainian military confirm the elimination of LTG Yakov Rezantsev, Russia’s 49th CAA commander, in Chornobaivka near Kherson.
Russia is unlikely to confirm — but if he’s alive, let them just show the general verifiably alive and well. pic.twitter.com/B9OfqDHc4f

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) March 25, 2022



IIRC this makes six total plus a Chechnyan general. Again, the estimated amount of generals Russia sent in was twenty. As has also been pointed out, the amount of officers in general who have died or aren’t on the field now must be huge.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 13:56 (two years ago) link

Focusing on the issues!

🐦[Putin is making a live address. He’s currently whining about how Hollywood refuses to make movies about the Russian contribution to defeating Nazi Germany and claiming "progressives" are trying to "cancel Russia".
— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 25, 2022🕸]🐦

🐦[Putin doing a live speech and just did a bit on "cancel culture" in the West focusing particularly on J. K. Rowling being cancelled. I wish I was joking.
— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) March 25, 2022🕸]🐦


Ok maybe he is losing his marbles.

Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 March 2022 14:01 (two years ago) link

"Putin is winning because we care about pronouns" has been a popular right wing take since this whole thing started, this is just him playing into that; might convince some morons in the West, helps establish the West as decadent and Other at home.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 25 March 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link

I thought better of Putin but now I find out he is online idk what to think..

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 March 2022 14:28 (two years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/lT2XwsFe3b

— Ben Walker (@BNHWalker) March 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 March 2022 14:32 (two years ago) link

Brave opponent of "woke" nonsense such as gender neutral pronouns, proper tank maintenance

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 25 March 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link

it's only a tank if it has a turret

Evan, Friday, 25 March 2022 14:59 (two years ago) link

decadent western supply lines keeping soldiers "fed" and vehicles "fueled"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 25 March 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link

I've pointed this out before but this war has unfolded in a very Trumpy fashion. just seems to be a lot of general incompetence and self-owning on Russia's side stemming from some misguided idea that everything was gonna be easy

frogbs, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:14 (two years ago) link

Russia's defense ministry effectively admits their attempt to conquer Ukraine has failed, and they're going to focus on taking and holding territory in the east where they were already backing separatists.
If followed through with action, it'll be a big walk back of war aims. https://t.co/4FDIfViC4g

— Nicholas Grossman (@NGrossman81) March 25, 2022

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:25 (two years ago) link

Oh and apparently the count of generals who have died is seven plus the Chechnyan one, it seems. Insane.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link

Putin's exact quote: "It was always our intention to fortify the People's Republics of Donbas and Lughansk before they, too, were taken offline like Joe Rogan."

— Michael Weiss 🌻🇺🇸🇮🇪 (@michaeldweiss) March 25, 2022

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link

Russia cancels the teaching of sociology, cultural studies and political science in all pedagogical universities of the country https://t.co/F2UUxNTLON

— Olga Irisova (@IrisovaOlga) March 25, 2022

"Pedagogical universities are moving to new curricula based on the “Core of Higher Pedagogical Education”. Instead of separate disciplines there will be modules. Within the framework of the social and humanitarian module, the teaching of philosophy, history, economics and law is preserved. And the teaching of sociology, cultural studies, the MHC (world artistic culture) and political science is excluded. Fully.

Take that, wokeness.

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Friday, 25 March 2022 15:46 (two years ago) link

Nobody had to bomb them into the stone age, they went there of their own accord

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 25 March 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link

I've pointed this out before but this war has unfolded in a very Trumpy fashion. just seems to be a lot of general incompetence and self-owning on Russia's side stemming from some misguided idea that everything was gonna be easy


You could also call this Cheneyesque. Superpower leaders seem to always underestimate the difficulty of regime change.

DJI, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:58 (two years ago) link

Except thenUS military is well equipped, funded, and disciplined, so our wars. while incredible self-owns, unfold a bit differently.

Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 March 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link

I guess it's tempting to think of Putin as some master strategist but I really do not understand what he's doing now. like between this and that "Hunter Biden tied to Ukrainian biolabs" story it's like he's just trying to communicate directly with Tucker Carlson. which maybe makes sense before an election but not after you started a war in which you are getting your ass kicked

frogbs, Friday, 25 March 2022 16:05 (two years ago) link

Looking where the light is.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 25 March 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link

gish galloping towards the horizon

Evan, Friday, 25 March 2022 16:10 (two years ago) link

It’s almost like he’s a Russian op

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Friday, 25 March 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link

Panelist on Russian state TV got worried about the future of Tulsi Gabbard, who he said was canceled by every social media network.

Another panelist replied: "But she still appears on [Tucker] Carlson."

He retorted: "I don't know if he'll manage to run away. I'm not joking." pic.twitter.com/29Pnehb0LD

— Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews) March 24, 2022

They may be making the classic mistake of ascribing to espionage that which can be explained by malice and cupidity.

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Friday, 25 March 2022 16:13 (two years ago) link

was pretty funny to see Tulsi get all incredulous about her Instagram engagement plummeting literally the day after Russia switched it off

frogbs, Friday, 25 March 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link

Holy shit, the fragging has actually begun:

BREAKING: A Russian brigade commander has been killed deliberately by his own troops after his unit suffered many losses in Ukraine, a western official said.
Colonel Medvechek, commander of 37 Motor Rifle Brigade, was run over by his soldiers, the official said

— Deborah Haynes (@haynesdeborah) March 25, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 25 March 2022 16:20 (two years ago) link


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