ok what the fuck is happening in ukraine

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Attack ships on fire off the coast of Ukraine

Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 24 March 2022 14:37 (four years ago)

Looks like the Corsairs of Umbar aren't going to make it.

Also, with regards to Ukrainians calling Russian soldiers "orcs," here's what Russians portray them as:

(the crossed out sign on top there says "people")

https://i.imgur.com/9Z8k9nO.jpg?1

Please like, retweet, and subscribe to stop Russian Russophobia against Russians. This is a serious and important issue and we must not shy away from covering it during this difficult and complicated situation.

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 15:31 (four years ago)

I watched the NY times video piece just now and I'm wondering - what is the Russian term that translates to "motherfucker"? Is it a calque, or some other Russian term with a completely different meaning that serves the same role as the standard worst thing you can call someone else?

joygoat, Thursday, 24 March 2022 16:45 (four years ago)

On March 1st, a week after the war to "denazify Ukraine" started, the last independent talk radio in Russia – Echo of Moscow – was shut down.

Now it's former EIC, @aavst20551, a Jew, had this plastered on his Moscow apartment door. "JUDENSAU" is German for Jewish pig (sow). pic.twitter.com/mS7nYRmgnf

— Sergey Sanovich (@SergeySanovich) March 24, 2022

I am beginning to be concerned about the status of the free press in Russia, as well as an increasingly permissive atmosphere where right-wing nationalism and anti-semitic attacks are allowed to happen. If this continues, it could have a chilling effect on leftist politics in Russia for many years, turning it into a mirror image of the fascist, warmongering autocracy that is Zelensky's Ukraine.

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:56 (four years ago)

Oh yeah, they also left a severed pig's head in a wig on his doorstep. Picture not included, find it yourself if you want.

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 19:57 (four years ago)

Maybe we need monthly threads for this now. Not that I plan to post much in any.

nashwan, Thursday, 24 March 2022 20:34 (four years ago)

Hey MoominTrollin, you contacted me through ILX mail but you didn't include an email address.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:15 (four years ago)

So this Times reporter, says that putting pressure on the oligarchs was a time-honored joke, because it just meant putting names on a list, names that in practice were well-hidden behind shell companies---Russian nesting dolls are the appropriate cliche, he adds---also

I mean, let’s take the U.K., for instance. People have been warning for years and years and years that these oligarchs were buying up property — really, really expensive property — all around London. And when our colleague Jane Bradley and I were reporting this story out, she spoke with Phil Mason, who served for decades as a top adviser to the British government on international corruption. And he just said flat out, lawmakers in Britain saw Russian money as a source of jobs and investments.

It was like a willing blindness.

Also, of course, Switzerland----but now Switzerland has said it's no longer neutral; we'll see how that goes. But so far, he says, the governments have gotten on board with tracking down true owners, and coming after their stuff, because governments really really don't want to have to deal with World War III, or getting close to it.
That's the gist of it, but here's the The Daily transcript, and if you'd prefer to listen, be assured that somebody else, with a good voice, is filling in for wheezy Mikey B.:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/22/podcasts/the-daily/russian-oligarchs-sanctions-ukraine-war.html?showTranscript=1

dow, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:18 (four years ago)

Credit where credit is due

ABC reporter asks Biden if he was too quick to rule out world war 3 pic.twitter.com/OEjl9ijWhu

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 24, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:21 (four years ago)

War Reddit was quick to spot that the Alligator-class landing ship that sank in Berdiansk was one of 2 still active after being initially commissioned in... 1964

Also, the sunken ship is now blocking the port.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:47 (four years ago)

As tempting as it is, I'm pretty leery of mocking Russia's creaky military capabilities... Putin might just be "Oh yeah? Well check this out!" and start launching chemical, biological, tactical nukes.. like a cornered rat lashing out

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:53 (four years ago)

That said, BBC had a couple Ukrainian soldiers showing the reporter what the Russians were eating... stolen chickens and MRE's that had expired in 2015

Just sad all around

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 21:58 (four years ago)

Yeah I mean...I'm not saying truly world-shattering shit can't still happen, but my feelings a month ago are rather different than now. That ship being sunk is definitely part of it; whether here or elsewhere someone was saying that this was about all the 'victories' they could show on Russian TV, that they were bringing in supplies that way, and now, pfft.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:11 (four years ago)

You know, Groucho Marx predicted all this:

"The pay of the common soldier is also reduced to a minimum — determined purely by the production costs necessary to procure him. But he exchanges the performance of his services not for capital, but for the revenue of the state. for Ukrainian carpets, blenders, toasters, TVs, iPhones, and fur coats."

https://i.imgur.com/KtCrMAD.jpg?1

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:13 (four years ago)

I thought that was Zeppo tbh

takin' care of bismuth (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:23 (four years ago)

I think home court advantage is seriously at play here

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:26 (four years ago)

Judensau is worse than "Jewish pig." It actually means "Jewish pigfucker."

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:38 (four years ago)

No? Sau is German for swine.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:41 (four years ago)

See also: Lou Castel cursing people out in his role as the doppelgänger of the director in a certain German film about making a film.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 March 2022 22:56 (four years ago)

Part of an interesting thread about a book re: nationalities and the collapse of the USSR, but this page stands out in light of current events:

The rhetoric from Yeltsin’s office about Russian claims to Ukrainian territory is honestly indistinguishable from Putin’s: pic.twitter.com/TpVScZ5Jtw

— Casey Michel 🇰🇿 (@cjcmichel) March 23, 2022

Another interesting bit is Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's ideas about a "Slavic core" of the Russian/Soviet empire apparently influencing Yeltsin with his idea that Russia/Ukraine/Belarus should all be one Slavic state, on the solid ground of "historic Russian lands."

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:34 (four years ago)

xp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judensau

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:39 (four years ago)

(NFSW--there are some ugly, ugly images in there.)

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:40 (four years ago)

Ugh. Thanks. Just looking at the summary text now through google, not looking at the images yet.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:43 (four years ago)

Any validity to this? Or hot air?

International hacking collective Anonymous claims to have exploited Russia's Central Bank - and is threatening to release 35,000 files which include 'secret agreements' in the next 48 hours.

The bank is responsible for protecting and ensuring the safety of the ruble, the Russian currency which has plummeted in value since the invasion of Ukraine began last month.

In a post on Twitter late last night by one of the group's accounts, Anonymous revealed its latest hack, though details were limited..

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 24 March 2022 23:49 (four years ago)

pfft you're an anonymous hacking group, if you have 'secret agreement' documents just fucking release them or shut up

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 25 March 2022 00:06 (four years ago)

Has Anonymous lived up to their boasts even once?

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 25 March 2022 00:28 (four years ago)

not that I know of!

thinkmanship (sleeve), Friday, 25 March 2022 00:29 (four years ago)

Some of Anonymous' data dumps over the past couple of weeks have been interesting but I'd hesitate to say that any of it had strategic value. It does makes for good propaganda though and seeing assholes contort themselves into the most ridiculous statements ("Nestlé denies it was hacked by Anonymous, claiming it accidentally leaked data dump itself") is great. I think the ICIJ, OCCRP, Bellingcat, and Ukrainian Radio Watchers are doing far better work though.

The Squad 303 group's "message a Russian" script was interesting to run for awhile. I'm pretty sure most didn't go through but I did get a couple of failed callback attempts.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 25 March 2022 01:30 (four years ago)

Has Anonymous lived up to their boasts even once?

― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:28 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

although it's phrased as a question, OTM

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 25 March 2022 01:31 (four years ago)

As tempting as it is, I'm pretty leery of mocking Russia's creaky military capabilities...

I dunno. I know I keep mentioning this, but back in 2011, Russia itself was saying that 20% of its entire military budget was stolen (can we presume that the actual amount is much higher?). Then in 2018, Russian military expenditure dropped for the first time - presumably scrapping whatever modernization programs were happening.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 25 March 2022 02:12 (four years ago)

Where that money went:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKYL0H0lgqg

fair warning: homophobia in some lyrics, sarcasm in the refrain; song is from 2009, but at minimum selling half of your diesel is still considered "a human right" in the army. Make of it what you will.

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Friday, 25 March 2022 02:53 (four years ago)

Look, that wasn’t so hard. H/t @owenhatherley pic.twitter.com/SEj1ZgcPjh

— Keith Gessen (@keithgessen) March 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 March 2022 11:43 (four years ago)

Focusing on the issues!

Putin is making a live address. He's currently whining about how Hollywood refuses to make movies about the Russian contribution to defeating Nazi Germany and claiming "progressives" are trying to "cancel Russia".

— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 25, 2022



Putin doing a live speech and just did a bit on "cancel culture" in the West focusing particularly on J. K. Rowling being cancelled. I wish I was joking.

— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) March 25, 2022

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 12:35 (four years ago)

Positively (or negatively) Trumpian

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 25 March 2022 12:39 (four years ago)

Will he pull the troops out if the West promises to uncancel JK Rowling

Sam Weller, Friday, 25 March 2022 13:31 (four years ago)

It appears another general is gone

Ukrainian military confirm the elimination of LTG Yakov Rezantsev, Russia’s 49th CAA commander, in Chornobaivka near Kherson.
Russia is unlikely to confirm — but if he’s alive, let them just show the general verifiably alive and well. pic.twitter.com/B9OfqDHc4f

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) March 25, 2022



IIRC this makes six total plus a Chechnyan general. Again, the estimated amount of generals Russia sent in was twenty. As has also been pointed out, the amount of officers in general who have died or aren’t on the field now must be huge.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 13:56 (four years ago)

Focusing on the issues!

🐦[Putin is making a live address. He’s currently whining about how Hollywood refuses to make movies about the Russian contribution to defeating Nazi Germany and claiming "progressives" are trying to "cancel Russia".
— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 25, 2022🕸]🐦

🐦[Putin doing a live speech and just did a bit on "cancel culture" in the West focusing particularly on J. K. Rowling being cancelled. I wish I was joking.
— Sam Freedman (@Samfr) March 25, 2022🕸]🐦


Ok maybe he is losing his marbles.

Otto Insurance (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 March 2022 14:01 (four years ago)

"Putin is winning because we care about pronouns" has been a popular right wing take since this whole thing started, this is just him playing into that; might convince some morons in the West, helps establish the West as decadent and Other at home.

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 25 March 2022 14:18 (four years ago)

I thought better of Putin but now I find out he is online idk what to think..

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 March 2022 14:28 (four years ago)

pic.twitter.com/lT2XwsFe3b

— Ben Walker (@BNHWalker) March 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 March 2022 14:32 (four years ago)

Brave opponent of "woke" nonsense such as gender neutral pronouns, proper tank maintenance

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 25 March 2022 14:56 (four years ago)

it's only a tank if it has a turret

Evan, Friday, 25 March 2022 14:59 (four years ago)

aand it's gone.

https://i.imgur.com/5wjPMnX.jpg?1

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Friday, 25 March 2022 15:04 (four years ago)

decadent western supply lines keeping soldiers "fed" and vehicles "fueled"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 25 March 2022 15:12 (four years ago)

I've pointed this out before but this war has unfolded in a very Trumpy fashion. just seems to be a lot of general incompetence and self-owning on Russia's side stemming from some misguided idea that everything was gonna be easy

frogbs, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:14 (four years ago)

Russia's defense ministry effectively admits their attempt to conquer Ukraine has failed, and they're going to focus on taking and holding territory in the east where they were already backing separatists.
If followed through with action, it'll be a big walk back of war aims. https://t.co/4FDIfViC4g

— Nicholas Grossman (@NGrossman81) March 25, 2022

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:25 (four years ago)

Oh and apparently the count of generals who have died is seven plus the Chechnyan one, it seems. Insane.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:27 (four years ago)

Putin's exact quote: "It was always our intention to fortify the People's Republics of Donbas and Lughansk before they, too, were taken offline like Joe Rogan."

— Michael Weiss 🌻🇺🇸🇮🇪 (@michaeldweiss) March 25, 2022

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:27 (four years ago)

Russia cancels the teaching of sociology, cultural studies and political science in all pedagogical universities of the country https://t.co/F2UUxNTLON

— Olga Irisova (@IrisovaOlga) March 25, 2022

"Pedagogical universities are moving to new curricula based on the “Core of Higher Pedagogical Education”. Instead of separate disciplines there will be modules. Within the framework of the social and humanitarian module, the teaching of philosophy, history, economics and law is preserved. And the teaching of sociology, cultural studies, the MHC (world artistic culture) and political science is excluded. Fully.

Take that, wokeness.

The Quantum Superposition Platform - For Life (MoominTrollin), Friday, 25 March 2022 15:46 (four years ago)

Nobody had to bomb them into the stone age, they went there of their own accord

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 25 March 2022 15:51 (four years ago)


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