idk, maybe don't post Russian propaganda by Fox News pundits, because everyone knows where their eyes are.
― braised cod, Saturday, 5 March 2022 10:33 (four years ago)
Yeah, that guy's a regular guest on Carlson, take that shit to the trash
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 March 2022 12:47 (four years ago)
noted! and, honestly, glad to hear that I can ignore him.
― brisk money (lukas), Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:01 (four years ago)
When it’s going great
So Putin is now on TV explaining his justifications for the invasion of Ukraine to a room full of Russian trainee air stewardesses... Bizarre… pic.twitter.com/LC6Uux3aiC— Patrick Reevell (@Reevellp) March 5, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:46 (four years ago)
Interesting that he’s sitting among them.
― mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:48 (four years ago)
“Keep those old guys far away. But I am immune for these young ladies.”
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:49 (four years ago)
That's some centerpiece.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:52 (four years ago)
The comments translating (in real time?) are ... odd. I guess someone asked him "why now?" and he started rambling about Ukrainians shooting people in the streets on sight, stuff like that, and just took off from there. Others in the comments also note that they haven't seen him this close to anyone in weeks.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:53 (four years ago)
And no one is quite sure what they are drinking. Red root tea? Borscht? Blood?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:54 (four years ago)
Come now, he's red blooded autocrat after all, of course he'd want to sit among a crowd of air stewardesses (who will soon be out of a job, if you believe the dire predictions being made about the Russian aviation industry).
― Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:57 (four years ago)
I've just remembered that there's a lot of mystery surrouding exactly how many children old Putinballs has fathered - now which world leader does that remind you of?
― Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:00 (four years ago)
why do almost all of the trees behind them look like guys in ghillie suits?
― StanM, Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:16 (four years ago)
The Ukrainian SBU liquidated a member of the Ukrainian negotiating group Denis Kireev. Kireev was killed during detention.This was reported by the Ukrainian MP Dubinsky. pic.twitter.com/V9PCnS5D5W— Maria Dubovikova (@politblogme) March 5, 2022
― StanM, Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:21 (four years ago)
(he was caught sending info to the Russians apparently)
― StanM, Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:22 (four years ago)
Inevitable
They actually did it. pic.twitter.com/0PwXDvu65x— The Eastern Border (@Eastern_Border) March 4, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:24 (four years ago)
Said painting: a famed effort by Ilya Repinhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:25 (four years ago)
The first thing that struck me about the Fox News dudes map, is it seemed to over exaggerate the Russian positions. I’m not even sure where the support in the western/Moldova area came from all of the sudden. He could be right about the plan, but he’s clearly stretching the believability of the Russian placement and speed of advancement.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:48 (four years ago)
yeah the dude's map is from a Russian propaganda source
― i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 March 2022 14:51 (four years ago)
lol my VPN gave me a "untrustworthy sources" warning when I clicked on this thread today, guessing it's fox news dude's fault.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 5 March 2022 15:02 (four years ago)
I'm so glad to have brought the thread together
― brisk money (lukas), Saturday, 5 March 2022 15:37 (four years ago)
I remember thinking at the time this won that this was a pretty damn heavy topic of choice for a Eurovision winner.
Jamala won Eurovision for Ukraine in 2016182 million people watched the song contest the following year in KyivLast week Jamala left Ukraine with her children, leaving her husband behindLast night she performed her winning song - 1944 - on German TVpic.twitter.com/eD6J4qeeic— Daniel Rosney (@DanielRosney) March 5, 2022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944_(song)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 March 2022 16:40 (four years ago)
Could the "liquidation" be more Russian BS?
No-fly would be "act of war," also now it turns out sanctions are already "akin to that," but "Russia is too big for that" to succeed, but also his representative adds:"As you understand, there must be a corresponding response to economic banditry," Peskov said.Also "there is not one conscript" etc. etc.:https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-west-is-behaving-like-bandits-2022-03-05/
― dow, Saturday, 5 March 2022 18:52 (four years ago)
Good thread on sanctions and the boycott.
The West-Russia economic & diplomatic decoupling that is underway right now is completely without historical precedent for such a large ($1.5 trillion) and relatively integrated economy as Russia's. And sanctions aren't even the main cause of it 🧵— Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch) March 5, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 March 2022 19:27 (four years ago)
BTW Twitter's going crazy with claims Putin was green-screened into the stewardess meeting. *shrug* If you want a sample of the madness
This video is also faked. He never sat with those women. Green screen tech. See how his hand moves behind the mic at 0:50 in this slow motion version. In the origial stuff moves and background is different as the video progresses. https://t.co/k0p01tYGmG— adam seven 🇫🇮 🇪🇺 (@a7_FIN_SWE) March 5, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 March 2022 21:05 (four years ago)
The green screen is pretty obvious in that.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 5 March 2022 21:13 (four years ago)
Sorry why does the mic give anything away? The mic his hand is moving behind is the one in front of him. It’s not the girls mic. In the angled shot the mic to the right is to his left.
― Evan, Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:18 (four years ago)
I was just looking at the edge of Putin's image against the background, where he'd be 'cut in' against the green screen and it looks like a too-sharp boundary. If you compare his 'edge' to how the other figures appear it is easier to see the difference.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:29 (four years ago)
I’m not seeing it honestly
― Evan, Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:35 (four years ago)
Why would anyone care if he green-screened talking to a bunch of flight attendants? If you could depose him with enough sick owns on twitter, you'd be better off spamming the "kissed boy like kitten" photo.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:39 (four years ago)
I actually see what they’re talking about now, the fingers slice through the neck of the mic.
― Evan, Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:42 (four years ago)
I want to believe, but we need a higher resolution video that's free of compression artifacts to do any substantial analysis.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:43 (four years ago)
Yeah the hand going through the mic is pretty obvious
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:58 (four years ago)
more re: Logistics.
Since the end of the Cold War, the Russians have undertaken nothing at all close to their deployment to attack Ukraine, which would be a challenge to any force. But is probably doubly for them as their logistical development also seems not to have progressed much.— Phillips P. OBrien (@PhillipsPOBrien) March 5, 2022
imo, the Putin video looks strange but the biggest thing that makes me suspect it's fake is just that he appears to be close to other humans, something that is clearly not happening much/if at all these days.
― ian, Saturday, 5 March 2022 23:51 (four years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4wRdoWpw0w
― stirmonster, Saturday, 5 March 2022 23:55 (four years ago)
Uhm it's not green screen anyway
This now-viral clip of Putin's hand transposing the microphone supposedly as a keying artifact is not present in the full-quality version (right) and I suspect may itself have been faked pic.twitter.com/ywBVsRj1gy— Michael Tae Sweeney (@mtsw) March 5, 2022
― i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 March 2022 00:01 (four years ago)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t7cbkj/another_interview_with_captured_russians_if_this/
― ian, Sunday, 6 March 2022 00:31 (four years ago)
African-American Phoenix Mercury basketball player Brittney Griner, seven-time WNBA All-Star, winner of two Olympic gold medals, detained at Moscow airport "in February"? Why just now popping up in the news?From BBC:Phoenix say they are "aware of and are closely monitoring the situation".
A statement from the WNBA club was posted on Twitter after the Russia Federal Customs Service said that an American basketball player was taken into custody after officials found vape cartridges that contained hashish oil in carry-on luggage at Sheremetyevo Airport.Russian news agency TASS, citing a law enforcement source, has since identified the player as 31-year-old Griner, who has played in the country during the WNBA offseason since 2015.
"We remain in constant contact with her family, her representation, the WNBA and NBA," the club said.]She could face a sentence of up to 10 years in a Russian prison if convicted.
― dow, Sunday, 6 March 2022 00:56 (four years ago)
Bargaining chip?
― dow, Sunday, 6 March 2022 00:57 (four years ago)
They could start taking hostages any time now, for a bit more leverage.
― dow, Sunday, 6 March 2022 00:59 (four years ago)
time for some game theory
Putin is diabolical. He knows Biden’s Democratic party base is Black women. He knows we are gonna be up in arms about Russia detaining Britney Griner, that we will demand the U.S. get her back here. Even as we are unified against his imperialist invasion of Ukraine.— Brittney Cooper (@ProfessorCrunk) March 6, 2022
― k3vin k., Sunday, 6 March 2022 05:47 (four years ago)
Another ok, short thread on where we are at and might be heading.
I think the question is whether they can take Kyiv before there is a domestic backlash to casualties and economic disruptions. Putin clearly wants to take Kyiv before conducting serious negotiations, but it isn't clear Russia can do so fast enough, especially if Kharkiv holds out https://t.co/FIQQ9GVL4s— Rob Lee (@RALee85) March 5, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 March 2022 07:40 (four years ago)
How central Asia could be affected.
Surreal to see Russians fleeing to Central Asia, frantically trying to figure local migration and registration rules in Telegram group chats, while so many Central Asian migrants are stuck in Russia, not knowing what to expect— Yan Matusevich (@ymatusik) March 6, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 6 March 2022 10:49 (four years ago)
Best blog analysis I've read on the conflict:
https://samf.substack.com/p/space-and-time?s=r
― the pinefox, Sunday, 6 March 2022 14:00 (four years ago)
Good conclusion that highlights the particular ambiguities of a war that Russia can't lose but is not exactly winning:
We are left contemplating the psychology of the man who launched this catastrophic adventure and must now decide whether to call it off with whatever face-saving claims he can muster. We wonder whether when he claims his war plan is on schedule and is meeting its goals is a continuation of his past delusions, because the sycophants around him don’t know how to tell him the truth, or because he does not know how to admit to the Russian people how badly he has let them down, especially after he has gone to extreme lengths to hide the truth from them.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 March 2022 14:16 (four years ago)
he will have encircled and occupied whatever cities and infrastructure he wishes that remain standing as and when he decides to stop.
im not sure this western commentary timeline-as-failure narrative in any way applies to his thinking here.
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Sunday, 6 March 2022 14:42 (four years ago)
Just thought I'd drop this here. No reason.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNCRxa5WUAA2OMH?format=jpg&name=medium
― emil.y, Sunday, 6 March 2022 14:43 (four years ago)
what is that from?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:09 (four years ago)
it's this: https://newrepublic.com/article/165603/carlson-russia-ukraine-imperialism-nato
― StanM, Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:20 (four years ago)
Trump mused to donors that we should take our F-22 planes, "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the shit out" out of Russia. "And then we say, China did it, we didn't do, China did it, and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) March 6, 2022
I get that this is exactly the sort of dumb idea he always has but it’s still fucking amazing that the guy was President for 4 years and still has thoughts like this
― frogbs, Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:25 (four years ago)
so basically he watched Mickey Blue Eyes last night, is what that tells me
― i read to 69 position (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 March 2022 15:26 (four years ago)