Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

I was just reading about this... so completely tragic, they fact that it happened at a supervised visit makes it even more tragic (if that's possible)

AR-15, of course

What the hell?

https://www.nbc11news.com/2022/03/20/shooting-arkansas-car-show-kills-least-1-wounds-20/

https://www.stereogum.com/2180267/sxsw-shooting-injury-austin/news/

my wife is stuck in traffic right there currently as cops are running around guns drawn and helicopters flying around

BREAKING: multiple people shot at Tanger outlets. I just saw a woman and man taken with gun shots wound.

POLICE TELL ME SCENE IS ACTIVE. pic.twitter.com/eaGpVjxU5z

— Nicole Grigg (@NicoleSGrigg) March 23, 2022

Marsha Blackburn just now at the Brown hearings: "in times like these, I'm just so grateful that the founding fathers had the foresight to ensure our right to bear arms in the second ammendment of the constitution." -- times like these where there are shootouts or mass shootings in public spaces nearly every single day, you mean?

Or maybe for times like these...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/20/us/south-carolina-lake-shooting-self-defense/index.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/582896-pregnant-florida-woman-killed-in-road-rage-incident-she-reportedly

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/florida/os-ne-florida-state-board-of-administration-official-killed-in-shooting-20220112-oymwwcbgpbej5b3lizkupfz7di-story.html

People are f'n nuts.

I don't understand how these incidents keep happening in areas with concealed carry and a lot of gun owners…
Spottie I hope your wife wasn't too shaken up by that

she was stuck there for about 25 minutes but shes all good.

sounds like some injuries but no deaths reported

#BREAKING: Glendale PD say five people were injured, three of which are juveniles, in the shooting at Tanger Outlets. Their injuries are non-life threatening. https://t.co/kkJfkHZrpT #abc15 pic.twitter.com/v8CvDyajYg

— ABC15 Arizona (@abc15) March 24, 2022

6 dead, 9 injured in Sacramento shooting

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/04/03/sacramento-downtown-shooting/7261794001/

WTF

Suspect at large after 10 shot at Brooklyn subway station

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brooklyn-subway-shooting-nyc/index.html

"The attack is not being investigated as an act of terrorism" - I wonder what their definition of terrorism is, then. (I actually don't, it's going to be something like "they didn't look middle-eastern" isn't it)

I guess the distinction is whether it's just some lone, troubled kook (like the Texas clocktower shooter) or someone with some kind of political agenda (though they might also be a lone, troubled kook)

it's going to be something like "they didn't look middle-eastern" isn't it)

In order to be an -ism, there needs to be a political objective, not just a lot of murders. Unless the killer was shouting political messages at the scene there's nothing to indicate a motive, yet.

there are legal reasons for the distinction as well, which dont' mean so much to the general public, but does more to the prosecutors

I guess a hate crime thats designed to sow fear among people of a certain group would be considered terrorism.

good points, everybody .

"There is a hole in our lives."

https://news.yahoo.com/few-answers-police-continue-investigate-230148825.html

What a headline.

“Only in this country is someone shot and injured or killed every 17 hours in a road rage incident.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/12/us/road-rage-shootings-guns-texas.html

We've had two road rage shootings here in Maryland in the past few weeks.

"The attack is not being investigated as an act of terrorism" - I wonder what their definition of terrorism is, then.

https://wtop.com/national/2022/04/police-hunt-gunman-who-wounded-10-in-brooklyn-subway-attack/

"The man arrested Wednesday in the shooting of 10 people on a Brooklyn subway was charged with a federal terrorism offense, a day after the attack on a crowded rush-hour train."

so did the guy turn himself in like the police are saying, or are they just trying to get out of paying the $50k reward to the bodega guy who called the cops?

Huh? They were very publicly acknowledging the Crime Stoppers tip this morning during the press conference, so I don't think they're trying to get out of that

seems like the guy might just be crazy crazy and applying any sort of logical motive to what he's done would be a fool's errand

is "he hates everyone and everything" not a logical motive?

just going by his youtube videos

NYPD is saying the shooter himself filed the crimestoppers tip. Maybe the bodega guy has turned out to be a chancer

NYPD is saying the shooter himself filed the crimestoppers tip. Maybe the bodega guy has turned out to be a chancer

Can a person collect the reward on themselves? Have to read the fine print, I guess.

the most insane thing about the whole NY thing is that the cops did shit and yet the media everywhere seems to be eating up these accounts of cops working hard with citizens to catch the guy.

he turned himself in.

the amount of copaganda that people just swallow unthinking in this country is unfathomable to me

Bring in Easter with a shooting, or two, or three!

https://www.wmbfnews.com/2022/04/17/police-nine-shot-south-carolina-club/

a white supremacist killed 10 people in a supermarket in Buffalo. he published a 106 page manifesto about the great replacement and streamed it on twitch.

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2022/05/mass-shooting-supermarket-buffalo-10-dead/

this is just down the road from me. freaking out, but everyone i know seems to be safe. there are a lot of white supremacists here.

there are a lot everywhere, i think. they're more brazen in some areas than others. i'm glad everyone you know is ok. what a nightmare

glad that you and those you know are safe. fuck.

I’m hearing that the shooter was 18?!?

he'll be a GOP Senator in no time

one of these passages is from a book by @TuckerCarlson and the other is from the manifesto of the white supremacist shooter who killed 10 people today pic.twitter.com/sViHxcD3dC

— Current Affairs (@curaffairs) May 14, 2022

The right’s gonna blame this on mental illness but this guy seems pretty damn articulate to me

Who am I kidding, clearly this is the fault of uhhh pronouns

here's the headline I see:

At least 10 dead, 3 hurt in Buffalo supermarket shooting; Gov. Hochul blames 'white supremacist'

pretty gross phrasing. guy literally had a Nazi manifesto, why put "white supremacist" in quotes like that? why imply it's the mayor who came to this conclusion? fucking cowards.

yeah, this is white supremacist terrorism. the only people who would want to obscure this are people sympathetic to his aims.

she should pin that directly on elise stefanik

(this is maybe better for the copyeditors & grammar fiends thread but) couldnt you argue the opposite with that headline, that putting it in quotes makes it clear that the governor chose to use the words "white supremacist"? like if it said governor blames white supremacist without the quotes, it could potentially be interpreted to mean that the governor referred to a person who the headliner writer is identifying as a white supremacist, but it wouldnt necessarily be clear if the governor referred to them as such? idk

i mean whatever who cares, ignore that, sorry its late & i'm a bit frazzled

well sure but why mention the governor at all, it's clear what this kid was, and where he got it from. Just say it was a white supremacist shooting.

The shooting is “racially charged”

Thred:

A manifesto has been published on /pol, credibly claiming to be written by the guy who carried out this attack.

It's a standard fascist "white genocide" rant, filled with 4channy in-jokes, ala the Christchurch shooter. Most obviously he gives Sam Hyde's picture as his own. https://t.co/1pDejN9tsW

— Robert Evans (The Only Robert Evans) (@IwriteOK) May 14, 2022

One right-wing guy I know has already tied to tell me the shooter is a "leftist," and when I pressed him on it, it came back to "Hitler was a socialist ..."

I grew up down the interstate from Buffalo and both my siblings went to college there, very very sad about this. It's so horrible.

The full cycle of complete hypocritical denial can’t even begin in earnest until Carlson goes on air to give a 20 minute white grievance angle on how the guy who did it is essentially someone who listens to people like him and believes him

I have conflicted feelings about the way this sort of event is reported. On one hand, by posting the video and manifesto you're effectively rewarding his crime and delivering the fame that the killer wants; on the other, by not showing it you're somewhat downplaying just how extremely horrible the crime was and allowing shitbags like Carlson to claim he wasn't really a right-wing terrorist

Obviously fuck this dude and though not shocking, still a little incredible that he survived but ofc the cops didn't kill him

And calls to not post about these type of crimes seem to increase the farther right the Overton window goes. It's almost as if some people want to downplay the links (sometimes literal) between right-wing terrorism and modern conservatism.

carlson and the rightwing as a whole aren't hiding the great replacement at all:

On Tucker, JD Vance invokes the great replacement conspiracy theory: "Democrat politicians who have decided that they cant win re-election in 2022 unless they bring in a large number of new voters to replace the voters that are already here" pic.twitter.com/LWR1D0ctTa

— nikki mccann ramírez (@NikkiMcR) March 18, 2022

there are multiple gop candidates this year running on the great replacement, among other things.

here's the chilling reality of america right now, imo: the fact that the GOP is openly pushing Great Replacement "theory" is something that should be screamed, every single day, so that absolutely no one can miss it, even the great majority of people who paying no attention whatsoever. but in this country, right now, there is a very strong chance that by drawing more attention to it, tens of millions of people will develop a strong attraction to it and double-down on it because, of course, anything that pisses the left off is a good thing for them, as politicians, as presidents, as people.

(note, xp to nhex: i'm not talking about sharing the video itself or the "manifesto", i don't think those are the things to share widely)