wow
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 February 2022 17:35 (two years ago) link
the CIR created a map showing russian military activity based on twitter searches
https://maphub.net/Cen4infoRes/russian-ukraine-monitor
A lot of footage is being posted online of Russian military movements along the Ukrainian border. We’re working with the #OSINT community to document, verify & map this information. You can find our map of verified movements here: https://t.co/2uqsSML5Qe pic.twitter.com/ToGku2xX8G— Centre for Information Resilience (@Cen4infoRes) February 9, 2022
― Punster McPunisher, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:01 (two years ago) link
UKRAINE: fear amongst western officials now is that Russia will start bombing Ukrainians indiscriminately and even with thermobaric weapons, if their progress continues to be impeded.— Alistair Bunkall (@AliBunkallSKY) February 25, 2022
this was kind of my thought as i read reports of the Ukrainian army defensive effectiveness
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 February 2022 18:07 (two years ago) link
This is a good feed to follow for some in-depth analysis of how international payment systems work and how severe or not the announced sanctions so far have been (not that I have independent knowledge to verify this information):
https://twitter.com/Frances_Coppola
It seems its a lot more complicated than just "Ban them from SWIFT". One thing I take away is that there is clearly a lot further that sanctions could go, and if Russia starts levelling Ukrainian cities, I think some of these other options will come on the table.
― o. nate, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:11 (two years ago) link
Thanks for the links o. nate and Punster.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:16 (two years ago) link
Something might be up
Strengthening sanctions, concrete defense assistance and an anti-war coalition have just been discussed with @POTUS. Grateful to 🇺🇸 for the strong support to 🇺🇦!— Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) February 25, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link
'concrete defense assistance' is what they currently need, but getting it in there might be difficult
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link
Zelenskyy has come across very impressively. He's proven very good at standing up for himself and his country, especially given his total lack of political experience.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link
fear amongst western officials now is that Russia will start bombing Ukrainians indiscriminately
the Ukrainian army is without effective air support. at some point the plan has to be for the armed resistance to scatter into multitudes of smaller units that don't present easy targets from the air. indiscriminate bombing of Ukrainians is kind of baked into that cake.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 25 February 2022 18:33 (two years ago) link
Sadly there is some precedent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1999%E2%80%932000)
― o. nate, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link
Ukrainian MP, former COO of the local branch of Amazon’s Ring https://t.co/KSF3v0vJ4h— max seddon (@maxseddon) February 25, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link
hashtag kalash
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link
"Take these seeds so sunflowers grow when you die here!!" This woman is a badass:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-60525996
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 19:35 (two years ago) link
That is incredible.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 19:45 (two years ago) link
The use of thermobaric weapons (referenced in the tweet above) is one of the bleaker scenarios: a weapon that sucks the oxygen out of a particular area -- a bunker, a subway station, and so on.
Also, this may come to nothing, but:
Document from Ministry of Health shows Russia is clearly preparing for a major medical event where doctors have to be drafted from across the country. The letter is signed by Deputy Health Minister Plutnitsky.— Emma Burrows (@EJ_Burrows) February 25, 2022
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 25 February 2022 19:56 (two years ago) link
x-post. Sunflowers? Yes, great footage. Bravery.
(I'd just read that many Russian soldiers don't want to be there and have been threatened and something about that clip also made that seem believable).
― djh, Friday, 25 February 2022 19:58 (two years ago) link
Sunflowers are Ukraine's national flower.
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 25 February 2022 20:01 (two years ago) link
yeah I've seen some footage of Ukrainians helping the badly wounded Russian soldiers, who appear to be like 19 and don't really look like they wanna be be there
― frogbs, Friday, 25 February 2022 20:02 (two years ago) link
Thanks for that Eazy - I didn't know that and found something incredibly moving about it.
― djh, Friday, 25 February 2022 20:04 (two years ago) link
Grain of salt, etc.
The #Anonymous collective has leaked the database of the Russian Ministry of Defense website. #Ukraine— Anonymous (@YourAnonOne) February 25, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 20:10 (two years ago) link
bummed that "Ghost of Kyiv" thing was a fake apparently
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 February 2022 20:30 (two years ago) link
there's a fucking video of a tank driving on a highway, there being a sole car being driven by an elderly man nowhere near the tank, and the tank swerves and runs over the car.
the man survived the initial event and was extricated from his vehicle, hoping he remained ok....don't watch the vid, but this video making the rounds to fight the obvious peacekeeping propaganda. just sickening video.
― sorry Mario, but our princess is in another butthole (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 February 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link
what was that ghost of kyiv thing about? i saw it getting mentioned on reddit a bunch, so assumed it was stupid.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 February 2022 20:44 (two years ago) link
Apparently some Red Baron fighter jet ace
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 20:49 (two years ago) link
yeah legendary Ukrainian Fighter pilot that took down a bunch of Russian aircraft on the first day
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 February 2022 20:50 (two years ago) link
but i think some of the footage used to verify this was from a video game smh
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 February 2022 20:51 (two years ago) link
this whole thing is making me sick to my stomach
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:01 (two years ago) link
Searches for “how to make a molotov cocktail” spiked in Ukraine in the last 24 hours, according to Google search data.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:04 (two years ago) link
I've struggled to listen to the news in the morning (UK, Radio 4, generally), AndytG.
― djh, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:06 (two years ago) link
xp
Molotov cocktail production pic.twitter.com/zdKLyq4rDL— C O U P S U R E (@COUPSURE) February 25, 2022
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:10 (two years ago) link
Alex Vindman (the Ukraine-born expert that Trump hated so much) has suggested something akin to Lend/Lease, where we sent all these weapons & vehicles to the USSR before we officially joined WWII as a active combatant - I think we should do nothing less
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link
it seems safe to think that weapons and other aid will be forthcoming from the western powers for as long as the Ukrainians are able and willing to resist. but by the time major military aid could be assembled and shipped it's likely there would be some difficulty finding safe points of entry for anything larger than Stinger missiles.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link
From what I gather, we are already talking about more than Ukraine, because arms are reportedly being sent to other nearby NATO countries who are rightly nervous, not to mention other countries (like Finland and Sweden) that Putin also explicitly warned against joining NATO. I can't even fathom what his end game is, or why he decided to do this now.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link
it's because Brandon is weak! geez keep up
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
Oh yeah, forgot about Brandon.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link
god the "this never would've happened under Trump" argument drives me up the fuckin wall, as though he didn't give Putin every single thing he wanted
― frogbs, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
And took shit away from Ukraine! That's why he was impeached the first time!
Anyway:
“Why should our government entertain your presence here when you’re acting as an apologist for slaughter?” @mcculld asks Russia's ambassador to Ireland. @rtenews pic.twitter.com/SujhiqatGE— Donie O'Sullivan (@donie) February 25, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link
New Polling!!
It said 92% of Republicans had a negative view of Biden, while 81% had a negative view of Putin
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:38 (two years ago) link
― frogbs, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:36 (one minute ago) link
I think that's their point, right?
― Evan, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:39 (two years ago) link
Um, you guys talking about the US running guns to Ukraine, I don’t you’ve fully thought this out. Comrade Calz would have something saltier to say if here were here probably.
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:45 (two years ago) link
I've thought it out, send them arms
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:46 (two years ago) link
America has a rich, glorious history of arming belligerents in conflicts that have nothing to do with us, why stop now
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link
Worked great in Afghanistan in the 80s.
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 25 February 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link
Statement concerning crisis in #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/Ck17sMrAWy— Abdul Qahar Balkhi (@QaharBalkhi) February 25, 2022
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:55 (two years ago) link
See, if Trump had just issued tweets like the Taliban, he would've never been kicked off
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 21:59 (two years ago) link
what came after Lend-Lease?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 25 February 2022 22:12 (two years ago) link
So how should Ukrainians resist an invasion vs an imperalist nation that has ten times the military capacity?
Just brainstorming no bad answers.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 25 February 2022 22:17 (two years ago) link
Uhh, Allied victory over the Axis?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 25 February 2022 22:17 (two years ago) link
In between those two?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 25 February 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link
I'm not sure if there are unofficial rules of the game about such matters, but the US and Russia have a long history of arming each others' opponents in proxy wars. One thing that would represent a major escalation that some people have called for would be trying to enforce a no-fly zone.
― o. nate, Friday, 25 February 2022 22:27 (two years ago) link