ok what the fuck is happening in ukraine

then he watched The Day After on the teevee and changed his mind

Man my whole 5th grade class was talking about it the next day but I was too scared to watch.

i have not read most of this thread (all the good threads get hundreds of replies in a day, it seems)

Threads is streaming on Shudder in the US.

One thing this invasion stops is NATO expansion for at least a decade. But you clearly are looking for more of a crisis, as if this isn't enough.

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:24 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Go ahead with the victim blaming.

Man my whole 5th grade class was talking about it the next day but I was too scared to watch.

*had*

Is that true about NATO expansion? Some are saying this puts NATO expansion back on the table for Finland. Also I wouldn't be surprised if this helps achieve one long-standing US objective, which is to get other NATO members to spend more on defense.

Doubt any country around Russia's borders will be joining until Putin goes. Prove me wrong, Finland.

Huh... I didn't know about Finland:

Together with Austria, Cyprus, Ireland, and Malta, Finland and Sweden are the only EU states that are not members of NATO.

Neutral ninnies

Has Latvia left NATO and no-one told me?

knocked out in the qualifiers

VAR is hell.

lol

the russian invasion of the ukraine is good now

This is...not good.

New — Ukraine Interior Minister says 10,000 automatic rifles have now been handed out in Kyiv

— Oliver Carroll (@olliecarroll) February 24, 2022

Kinda wonder if Putin is being last-minute added to the CPAC speaker lineup... Rittenhouse will warm up the crowd

VAR is hell.

so - i've seen a few "reports" of troops on the polish border. not sure i believe it – this would certainly trigger military intervention from half the fucking planet, and Putin can't be that nuts, can he?? tho i thought a full invasion of the Ukraine was not going to happen and here we are. if it is true, maybe they've just been placed there as a precaution against nato intervention (tho I'm not convinced it's true)?

Has Latvia left NATO and no-one told me?

Not sure where VHS was going with that line of argument tbh, I was referencing the deployment of F-35s to the region (to current NATO member nations).

Defense official: Six US F-35s deploying to Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, two each.

— Paul McLeary (@paulmcleary) February 24, 2022

Though this just gives the F-35 more places to crash so I guess it's not really much of a conflict escalation aside from the eternal war with gravity.

Yes let’s mock the Baltic states desire to protect itself from an imperial and nuclear power that just started a war on a neighbour.

Apparently they've dropped a bunch of requirements for Ukrainians to join the civilian militias... just show with a passport, and they'll hand you an AK
Yikes

xp pretty sure he's mocking the F-35 there, deservedly so

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/320295-the-us-air-force-quietly-admits-the-f-35-is-a-failure

OK, what the fuck.

The head of Russia's space agency: "If [the U.S.] blocks cooperation with us, who will save the ISS from an uncontrolled descent out of orbit and a fall on the United States or"—continued in his next tweet—"Europe?"

"The ISS doesn't fly over Russia, so all the risks are yours." https://t.co/LSU1F4GnL8

— Marina Koren (@marinakoren) February 24, 2022

uh, if russia intentionally crashes the ISS and manages to hit a specific location that would be some marvel universe shit and i will officially check out

What a bunch of narcissistic crybabies.

The sanctions have clear limits too:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/24/kyiv-furious-as-eu-wavers-on-banning-russia-from-swift-payment-system

Of course.

What a bunch of narcissistic crybabies.

Is that any way to talk about your fellow ILXors?

That was for the Russians like Putin and head of space agency.

Slim Pickens should be able to steer the ISS right into the Kremlin... 'Yeeehawwwww!!'

Yes let’s mock the Baltic states desire to protect itself from an imperial and nuclear power that just started a war on a neighbour.

Good faith vs Bad faith

Rusya'nın Ukrayna'ya yönelik işgal operasyonuna karşı Moskova başta olmak üzere birçok kentte eylemler düzenleniyor. Moskova'daki Boulevard Ring çevre yolunda toplanan yüzlerce kişi "Savaşa Hayır" sloganlarıyla yürüyüş gerçekleştirdi. pic.twitter.com/QRwLaKLox7

— Yeryüzü Postası (@yeryuzupostasi) February 24, 2022

Yes let’s mock the Baltic states desire to protect itself from an imperial and nuclear power that just started a war on a neighbour.

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 24 February 2022 bookmarkflaglink

I'm just mocking you.

137 Ukrainian soldiers died today in order not to let Ukraine be conquered. And 20hour long battle against a mighty state showed they succeded. 316 wounded. – Zelensky said. 57 civilians were killed by Russia, 169 were wounded according to Health Ministry.

— Nataliya Gumenyuk (@ngumenyuk) February 24, 2022

xp - they say that jerk reflexes bypass the brain

So you just farted then?

Charming, everyone

can you petty dickheads (you know who you are) either grow the fuck up or go throw sand at each other somewhere else & not ITT because JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

^otm

jesus

Reportedly audio from Snake Island in Black Sea:

-This is a Russian military ship. I suggest you lay down your weapons and surrender to avoid bloodshed and unnecessary victims. Otherwise we will open fire on you.

-Russian military ship, go fuck yourself.

They were all killed https://t.co/QmD9RkYamE

— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) February 24, 2022

For clarity. The 13 Ukrainian defenders of the island were killed, after refusing to surrender, as per Ukrainian official info. President Zelenskiy said they’d all be given hero of ukraine medal posthumously.

— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) February 24, 2022

that island is like 15 miles off the coast of (nato member) romania

yeeeepp

Kuleba in Foreign Affairs:

The only effective way forward is the comprehensive deterrence plan that Ukraine and its partners are currently crafting. The first component is to send clear political signals to Moscow. That means making it plain that Ukraine is part of the West and a future member of the EU and NATO and that Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are nonnegotiable. The second part of the plan involves consequences: in the worst-case scenario of an invasion, the West will enact severe sanctions. Crafting these devastating measures now could spare the West the need to apply them later.

The third and final part of the plan is to deepen military assistance to Ukraine. We have our own capable military forces in Ukraine, and we don’t expect Western countries to put boots on the ground. We do, however, need more weapons to be able to defend ourselves. Everything counts, from ammunition to medical equipment, but we are in particular need of air and missile defenses.

grow the fuck up or go throw sand at each other somewhere else & not ITT because JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, February 24, 2022 6:13 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

THANK YOU

mega otm

Saw a claim of Russian soldiers surprised they were shooting at regular ol' Ukrainians. It could all be disinformation, psy ops or whatever, but I've seen several posts indicating that Russians just don't want this. Putin, yes, but not Russian citizens.

there were widespread protests (and many many arrests): https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/world/europe/russia-protests-putin.html

The potential silver lining is that for Putin this is the moment of hubris that will eventually destroy him, but sadly from what I read that seems unlikely. The sanctions will have minimal impact on the general population; all oppositional infrastructure in Russia has been obliterated meaning that even if there was a groundswell of anti-war sentiment it would be very hard for people to organise; and as for getting stuck in a bloody quagmire in Ukraine, Putin's scorched earth approach has an almost perfect record in winning guerrilla wars in former USSR territories.