"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

Ed Miliband, such a toxic and hateful anti-Semite that he turned Maureen Lipman into a reluctant Tory voter.

if she'd said she wasn't voting labour because Miliband's team of advisers are a bunch of abhorrent idiots from right-wing think tanks and no better than tories then fair enough though

Going after Russian Dark money could cause house prices in Central London to crash overnight.

Rents could plummet, jeopardising the livelihoods of tens of thousands of landlords.

Hold Mr Putin to account, robustly, by all means. But do so sensibly. Pragmatically. Declare war.

— Tim Chapman (@IslingtonChap) February 22, 2022

Has to be fake.

it is yes

And that, children, is why you can't have state-funded LFTs anymore. https://t.co/VOXf98BHai

— Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal) February 23, 2022

Guys??? They actually really hate us pic.twitter.com/qbGZTGqBOS

— T✨ (@scaryposhspice) February 23, 2022

The Telegraph headline is slightly misleading. There is going to be a consultation with a couple of options, one of which would be restricting loans for people who don’t get a C at Maths and English GCSE and one is restricting them for people who don’t get two E grades at A-Level, or equivalent (BTEC, NVQ, etc), unless they’re adults returning to education, which I think is more likely to be implemented.

It’s a bad policy either way but the government has essentially taken the line that they don’t want universities to plug the COVID / bad investment hole in their finances by removing admission standards. They can either formally cap the number of students universities can take - which they did for a while in 2020 but they don’t want to maintain, or go no-cap but have a minimum threshold for results.

Try the Westminster McDonalds https://t.co/mF44pYnKpX

— Abi Wilkinson (@AbiWilks) February 23, 2022

lool!

Thanks for the details SV.

BREAKING 🚨🚮: Hastings refuse collectors have agreed a pay increase of up to 19.5% and called off strike action - after rejecting an initial offer of 1.75%.

— Trades Union Congress (@The_TUC) February 23, 2022

Nasty tweet

👉🏻 send 2/3 if not all Russian embassy staff back
👉🏻 cut rail, shipping and air links with Russia
👉🏻 require UK/Russian dual nationals to choose between nationality

— Chris Bryant (@RhonddaBryant) February 24, 2022

More insanity from Davis, but I don't see any significant voices calling for it.

Just adding my voice that this is a catastrophically terrible idea that must be opposed as strongly as possible - escalating this war into a major, direct military confrontation between nuclear-armed powers is gambling at unknown odds with the future of the world. https://t.co/8xwcdHraKc

— Lafargue (@Lafargue) February 24, 2022

xp

When offered the post of Shadow Secretary for Defence, Chris Bryant is said to have demanded "a 30-minute conversation about what would happen if we had to invade Russia" - not the usual sort of response you'd expect from a fellow MP, but then Jeremy Corbyn is quite an unusual leader.

there have been alleged developments involving Labour that are staggering in their cynicism and evil tbh, if there was any lingering doubt about whether i should have stayed and fought as a member it's gone now

I understand that all 11 Labour MPs who signed the Stop The War statement (which criticised Nato) have been written to by the Shadow Chief Whip and asked to withdraw their signatures.
Sounds like if they refuse to do so, they will all lose the whip.

— Paul Waugh (@paulwaugh) February 24, 2022

A Labour MP has urged the government to seize the assets of Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich.

— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) February 24, 2022

yeah those xp

if there was any lingering doubt about whether i should have stayed and fought as a member it's gone now

― imago, Thursday, 24 February 2022 bookmarkflaglink

You couldn't fight your way out of a paper bag.

oh ofc it's War Day, the day we show how hard we are

tbf i did call for the assassination of putin earlier lol

Here is who else wants to lol fight.

🚨NEW SNAP POLL🇺🇦🇷🇺

🇬🇧41% say NATO military response wld be JUSTIFIED
🇬🇧32% WANT it to happen, 38% EXPECT it
🇬🇧55% say current UK sanctions don't go far enough
🇬🇧53% want economic sanctions against Rus. leaders

1,108 UK adults, 24th Feb

Fieldwork after this morning's invasion

— Savanta ComRes (@SavantaComRes) February 24, 2022

anyway, this is atrocious from Labour, and that^ is why we don't put military action to referendum (yet)

tbf i did call for the assassination of putin earlier lol

― imago, Thursday, 24 February 2022 bookmarkflaglink

I know, massively stupid post.

A reason to stay in Lab wasn't to 'fight'. Not that you'd know anymore than online buzzwords.

just tbc i did add 'preferably by one of his own', no implied 'we'

anyway, there is little-to-no reason to stay in Labour at this point surely?

"just tbc i did add 'preferably by one of his own', no implied 'we'"

Still dumb.

ok having actually now READ the Stop The War statement, it does come across as hopelessly naive in its defence of Russia's 'security concerns'. still don't think this is a matter for withdrawing the whip - that bit is opportunistic - but a follow-up statement denouncing Putin would probably be a very good idea

Sadly they listened to you.

Labour MPs withdrawing their signatures to Stop The War letter. If you disagree with it - I have had many respectful discussions who those who do - fair enough. But to sign it, then remove your name because the you were whipped, lacks any principle whatsoever on the issue.

— Jonathon Shafi (@Jonathon_Shafi) February 24, 2022

#StandWithUkraine 🇺🇦🇬🇧 pic.twitter.com/HMX2UVPM4z

— Richard Moore (@ChiefMI6) February 24, 2022

Worst Disneyland ride

When do we start clapping for Ukraine?

stop the war is an embarrassing org that no-one should have anything to do with

back in the heady days of the 00s during the Iraq war - in Glasgow anyway - it was a collaboration of actual sunni islamists and SWP folk

Really awful.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ukraine-war-refugees-uk-visas-b2022567.html

We can’t stop Putin from invading, but at least we can stop the youth from posting. Heroic https://t.co/WgDAdMOCsp

— Rory Scothorne (@shirkerism) February 25, 2022

Just spoke to a British national who travelled overland with his Ukrainian wife over the last two days and has just arrived back in the UK. He says a lot of Brits are refusing to leave Ukraine because they don't have faith the Home Office will allow their spouses to come over.

— Nicola Kelly (@NicolaKelly) February 24, 2022

*extremely British voice*
Those who commit war crimes
IN UKRAINE will face prosecution https://t.co/sWrvLbfZdF pic.twitter.com/w16dyjIB3l

— KateMcK (@TheKateMcK) February 25, 2022

This thread scheduled to die a death without xyzzz and calz posting tweets every 15 minutes.

It's funny/ sad how rapidly enthusiasm for this thread has died in Starmer era

What’s there to say? Shit’s bad, only going to get worse. Scant laughs. 2017-19 Brexit drama votes/bin Chinese era obviously the best

Welcome to the future of UK politics: a better world isn't possible

And you’ll be scolded for even thinking of such a fairy tale

Bin Chinese?

I don't know what that was!

Suggest you start here and read down, sir
PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Scrolled down from the heady days of Bin Chinese to the days when you could still OTM Stephen Bush, to quote-tweeted Sensibles bemoaning the "revolting behaviour" of newish unelected PM Johnson, all of whom* probably went on to give him a free pass at election while disparaging the only opposition, and all of whom have probably said at some point over the past 2 years "how could we have known before the election that the PM might behave revoltingly"

Oh well, we are where we are. (goes back to bed for the next year)

(I never did make the Rotterdam Termination Source Poing-except-it's-VONC edit but you can make your own karaoke version here)

* this star pointed at a stupid joke which got deleted as it was even less interesting than this disclaimer I'm typing now about how there isn't a joke here

It's funny/ sad how rapidly enthusiasm for this thread has died in Starmer era

Ideal situation rn would be for this thread to be dead and for the leftist organizing thread to be super active.

I think you lot should start your own US politics thread

it's depressing enough in here as it is

Liz Truss, the foreign secretary, said there would be “nowhere left to hide” for wealthy allies of the Kremlin. In an interview with the Sunday Times, Truss said new names added to a list of oligarchs every few weeks as ministers seek to ratchet up the pressure on the president Vladimir Putin.

“We’ve already had letters to the foreign office, from lawyers, threatening us, so we have to make sure the cases are properly prepared and that we have the right evidence before we sanction these individuals,” she said.

“That is why we’re taking it step by step, but we are working through that hit list and we will continue to sanction new oligarchs every few weeks.”

Every few *weeks*? The current Ukrainian government, and a lot of Ukrainians, probably won't exist in a few weeks.

a day later...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60558048

"Ukraine conflict: Russia blames Liz Truss and others for nuclear alert"