Rolling Boxing Thread / Anticipating Manny vs. Mayweather

since we didn't actually start a board for it.
Muhammed Ali and George Foreman, Rumble in the Jungle

I loved it when the Ali biopic came out, ESPN Classic was running his old fights and Cosell shows non-stop.

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:35 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Ali is a great hero of mine. Currently love jermain Taylor, though I think he's due for a rude awakening from someone (though that someone SHOULD have been Winky Wright) and he is still VERY raw. All the fun stuff in this sport happens @ 165 and below, really. Heavyweights are all imperfect jokes. If some parent had the foresight to train his or her 6'4" 250 LB left tackle to fight he could clean up the division EASILY.
― If you fuck with Jimmy Mod, you call down the thunder (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:44 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
If some parent had the foresight to train his or her 6'4" 250 LB left tackle to fight he could clean up the division EASILY.
But only if they had the foresight to provide said youngster with blazing hand speed. Boxing =/= American Football. Left tackles just don't do that much of interest with their upper bodies compared to boxers.

― Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:43 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
WAHT
― If you fuck with Jimmy Mod, you call down the thunder (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:47 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
[he brushes his right thumb against the side of his nose and snorts a bit of blood out of his left nostril]
YAEH!

― Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, February 10, 2007 1:50 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
let's talk mma! check out crocop's TOTALLY SIKK ufc debut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUvyjE6o65A

― aidsy (PUNXSUTAWNEY PENIS), Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:17 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
mma is ghey
― milo z (mlp), Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:30 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I am bismackual - I love boxing and MMA.
― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:39 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I can't even give MMA a fair chance so long as they're using that stupid cage match setup and have pro wrasslin' production values.
Put 'em in a real ring, get some classy, intelligent announcers (wherefore the skinhead-grapplin' Emanuel Steward?), and maybe I'll watch one all the way through.

― milo z (mlp), Saturday, February 10, 2007 3:44 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Yeah, the "Octagon" is kind of dumb and gimmicky (alhough I actually appreciate the fact that it's more difficult to trap your opponent in a corner) and certainly the commentators in UFC are garbage. PRIDE, the Japanese event is in a boxing ring, though, and does generally get a better quality of commentary. It also has bigger purses and consequently a deeper talent pool.
But that's all off-topic. I do kind of suspect that as long as Fedor Emilianenko is heavyweight champ over there and his brother Alexander refuses to fight him, maybe the smart thing for Alexander to do is get into the heavyweight boxing division. I haven't seen a whole hell of a lot of him, but what I did see of his hand skills looked like it had potential.

― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Saturday, February 10, 2007 4:04 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Well, calling that low blow against Loscano in the twelfth was bullshit, but at that point the fight was pretty much over anyway. Harris earned it, but it was Loscano who made it exciting to watch.
― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:53 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I take back all the Vern Schillinger jokes I've made about MMA - just saw Gina Carano beat the crap out of someone on Showtime. It was actually entertaining.
― milo z (mlp), Saturday, February 10, 2007 10:58 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Maybe you can tell them about this tattooed skinjob fighting Mosely.
― Candy: tastes like chicken, if chicken was a candy. (Austin, Still), Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:01 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
hands up who hates Ruiz
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Saturday, February 10, 2007 11:09 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Well DUH
― If you fuck with Jimmy Mod, you call down the thunder (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:12 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
but seriously, why can't anybody dope out Ruiz's style and give him a proper pasting? I think Foreman in his prime could have done exactly that, Pinklon Thomas too probably, maybe even Holyfield - it's like the thing that's really plaguing the heavyweight division is that the fighters don't really think through their opponents. In this sense Ruiz is almost good for the game (even though he's not because he's so dull to watch) - he's like an infection against which the antibodies will have to grow stronger if the host is gonna live
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:40 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Caring about heavyweights in 2007 is a bit like caring about the rise of Communism in the Soviet Bloc in 2007.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, February 11, 2007 11:48 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
2 months pass...
R.I.P.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imZaiGJgbsw

re: heavyweights, i like james toney a whole lot. and samuel peter appears to have gotten a lot better since wlady dismantled him. i'm glad someone beat that 7 foot russian.
― cankles, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:04 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Toney's last fight was awful. Dude looked like he weighed 300 and couldn't move or punch.

Corrales-Castillo was the last great fight I saw. Barrera-Juarez I was a great surprise, but Corrales-Castillo was amazing.
― milo z, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:24 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Amazing comeback, RIP.

I didn't know about this thread or I wouldn't have revived the other one (The Joe Calzaghe/Rolling Boxing Thread)
― onimo, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:25 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Castillo-Hatton could be a good one.
― onimo, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:25 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
1 month passes...
who in NYC wants to go to Rumble by the River (free) next Thurs?

http://www.hudsonriverpark.org/Calendar/RUMBLE.htm

Those flyweights really pound the crap outta each other.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, June 15, 2007 12:40 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I'd go if I lived there!

― J0hn D., Friday, June 15, 2007 12:50 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
oh god, Ricky "The Hugger" Hatton strikes again.

― milo z, Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:41 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
not as much as kellerman et. al are overdoing it, but castillo did look slow and old...i'll still be waiting for hatton to fight a real figher.

― johnny crunch, Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:56 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
What was Kellerman on? Bug eyes, yelling into the mic, barely coherent.

― milo z, Saturday, June 23, 2007 10:57 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Finally a forum to air this gripe: 95% of the fights aired on ESPN Classic fall well short of classic status, and a lot of them weren't even worth watching the first time around. Am I right!? This confuses me. Maybe sticking to the canon of Classic bouts would be limiting, but I'd like it. A boxing fan never tires of the true classics.

― wanko ergo sum, Saturday, June 23, 2007 11:35 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
not as much as kellerman et. al are overdoing it, but castillo did look slow and old...i'll still be waiting for hatton to fight a real figher.

wtf Castillo's not a real fighter?

Great body shot from Hatton to finish it but it was a messy four rounds tbh.

― onimo, Sunday, June 24, 2007 7:21 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
2 weeks pass...
Limond vs Khan: great fight. Khan did well to get up off his overhyped arse and beat Limond. Getting decked off a guy with a ~50% stoppage record might be a sign that Khan will get sparked out when he faces world class opposition. Why didn't the ref stop the fight after the Khan knockdown? He was given an 8 count and asked to raise his gloves and walk forward and he sank down to his knee again.

Skelton vs Sprott: If I never see either of these fighting again it'll be too soon. That people are even considering giving either of these a world title shot shows how woeful the heavyweight division is. Bruno at his peak would have stopped both of these in minutes.

Pryce v Anthony "Sugar Ray Clay Jones Junior" Small: Don't you love it when a guy with a stupid nickname enters the ring with a Scream mask on and gets holes punched in his 17-0 record? lol@spitting blood and counting stars while complaining about the stoppage. Ref was spot on.

― onimo, Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:42 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
kind of looking forward to margarito v. paul williams tonight...

― johnny crunch, Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:58 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Skelton vs Sprott what a dire fight that was. Those 2 judges must've fallen asleep to have had Sprott even near skelton on the points. Sprott wasn't interested in fighting at all.

― Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, July 14, 2007 8:05 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
is it wrong that I always really enjoy Gatti getting tore up like a punching bag?

― johnny crunch, Saturday, July 14, 2007 11:02 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
You've enjoyed it for the last time, he retired after the fight.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2007-07-15-2867980343_x.htm

― onimo, Sunday, July 15, 2007 4:54 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
You really can't beat a couple of WRITERS pounding each other bloody in a "sparring exhibition" (ie, because they're 31 and 43 it can't be a sanctioned match) ... July 24 at Gleason's Gym, NYC:

http://www.jonathanames.com/blog/blogger.html

http://www.penguinblogs.ca/davidson/archives/00000162.html

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:42 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
2 years pass...
Don't know how much interest there is for boxing around here but there have been some awesome developments lately.
1. The supermiddleweight tourney sponsored by Showtime! Froch, Tyalor, Kessler, Ward, Direll(spelling?), and Abraham. A new tactic. Should bring the fireworks.
2. Pacquaio and Cotto. No idea who to pick here. Will be paying for it though.
3. Mayweather looming...
4. Amir Khan. Fluke?

We are sad to report that former world champion Vernon Forrest was tragically and senselessly murdered at about 11PM on Saturday night in Atlanta during an attempted robbery at a gas station. Reportedly Forrest had stopped to put air in the tire of his late model Jaguar when he was robbed at gunpoint. Forrest was also armed and pursued but another assailant was hiding and ambushed the champion. According to Atlanta police, Forrest was shot multiple times with a semi-automatic weapon.

Beat me to it. I don't think I can really get behind Forrest historically (RIP) because he beat my at-the-time favorite Mosley so badly (TWO TIMES) and looked looked like a completely empty/cowardly champion for the rest of his career. The moral of the story is to not chase down an armed assailant, even if you do have a gun. Srsly some 'When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong' shit.

damn what is wrong with this world

Come on guys...I posed some serious questions! Isn't Mr. Darnielle a boxing fan? Where you at my man? I gave you a cigarette in front of Vinyl Fever once! Weigh in!

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4366517

Gatti death ruled a suicide

wasnt expecting that.

mayweather/marquez, anybody?

kind of stoked. did you see the 24/7 where marquez drinks his own urine

no but the clip made the rounds, joke is on him that was actually my pee, nacho beristain and me pulled the ol switcheroo

ugh poor juarez

watching a hungarian stream - at least i wont have to hear larry merchant

no such luck w/the romanian stream :(

what rd is it is? i found a stream that may be delayed? is just startin

round 1 just ended

nasty hook floooyd

wow this is boring even by pbf standards

that hook was nasty

so glad i'm not paying for this crap

yo floyd im gonna let you finish but etc

dag it ridic how teddy atlas wuz portrayin this as a close fight in the espn news rd-by-rd updates

also LETS GO AREOLA SHOW US UR TITS

looool michael phelps is smokin weed y cant i drink a beer?

that was rough

vitaly is fuckin nasty

Must've been streaming the Froch fight last night cos I found this:

Dear Carl Froch

Please punch tthat bloke in the face real hard else you lose

love
Noodle

in some random film thread.

Piecing that together I'm guessing he was lucky to win it on points but hey who knows? I'm loving how none of his world title bouts have been a walk in the park so far but he keeps edging them.

Tomorrow night on ESPN, Mohammed and Larry. Looks compelling and sad.

wow, a points win in Germany.

and with a broken hand from the 3rd round onwards

haha got to 'view' this in the pub with no visuals just sound, like the good old days

None of our locals were showing the match, the tight bastards. Can't believe it went 12 tbh

lol what the hell is santos wearing

good fight this. i dunno if i can stay up for the main fight though, its 3.10am here

http://twitter.com/cstbtweet/status/5726856482

John Lithgow appears to be refereeing the Foreman/Santos bout. No dancing in the ring!

I'm a little surprised it went the distance - Santos just looked terrible all fight, and I ain't talking about his ringwear.

Anyway, time for another exciting JCC Jr squash.

Jim Watt thinks Chavez jr's defence is deplorable and doesn't fancy him as a middleweight due to lack of punching power.

sod it im off to bed.

its nearly 5am and i ended up staying up to watch it. Hope it was worth it.

One of the worst undercards I've seen in a while, but I'm really really stoked for this fight (on paper anyway).

prediction?

Cotto looks like he can outpunch Pacquiao all night if he has to. Trying to find a live line - Cotto was as much of a 3-1 dog prefight, which I thought even then was a little long.

Pacquiao looked much more confident in R2, and just got a (kinda screwy) knockdown in R3.

excellent fight so far.

Yeah, the style contrast has been super fun to watch, esp since Cotto's much faster than I expected him to look.

I think Pacquiao will win but if the fight goes on into the later rounds who knows. If it finishes early I reckon Pacquiao will win.

if it does go into the later rounds it will be a classic

Cotto down. i think its over

he made the bell

this wont last another 30 seconds.