ok what the fuck is happening in ukraine

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shocked that autocrats are wealthy, you don't get that shit in a democracy

It seems like generally in autocracy, power is a path to wealth; in US ‘democracy’ wealth is a path to power more like. (The US senate is also the single most anti-democratic institution in our entire government system.)

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:01 (two years ago) link

Putin Very Bad but honestly can’t imagine a world where his hard-on for Ukraine portends anything worse for the avg citizen there than the US’

hyper-ventilating state dept and western media’s track record on these issues not helping the case imo

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Monday, 14 February 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link

lol

bulb after bulb, Monday, 14 February 2022 17:11 (two years ago) link

BREAKING: Office of Ukraine's president says his statement that Wednesday will be 'day of attack' was said with irony

— The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex) February 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 February 2022 21:42 (two years ago) link

“What, you can’t take a joke?”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:52 (two years ago) link

Seems like it was bad reporting / translation from NBC, not that Zelenskiy was unclear.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 14 February 2022 21:57 (two years ago) link

so not gonna happen

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 14 February 2022 22:00 (two years ago) link

interesting on Russian thinking and the role the suppression of Medvedchuk's pro-Russian party may have played in the current crisis https://t.co/JLLLIbMmzY

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) February 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 February 2022 22:27 (two years ago) link

“Russia signals willingness to talk about ‘you know, whatever, do you like French cars?’l

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 00:29 (two years ago) link

“February 15, 2022 will go into history as the day western war propaganda failed. They have been disgraced and destroyed without a single shot being fired,” writes Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova.

— max seddon (@maxseddon) February 15, 2022

Russian troops are apparently moving back from the Southern and Western fronts.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 09:23 (two years ago) link

I really wasn't expecting that because I get all my information from US/UK media.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 09:36 (two years ago) link

I really didn't need WWIII on my plate, got enough on as it is.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 09:49 (two years ago) link

lol from a purely selfish pov I was looking forward to dying in a megaton nuclear airburst just for some relief!

calzino, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 09:52 (two years ago) link

Plenty more opportunities to come my friend!

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 10:06 (two years ago) link

absolutely insane website pic.twitter.com/UyBwDJh8GU

— ziyan (@ziyanm_) February 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 10:06 (two years ago) link

Some of the hawkish twitter I'd seen, which for sure had been reporting/relaying/amplifying stories that Russia was planning a false flag operation as pretense for invasion, are now completely credulously posting this:

Russian media outlet are reporting that a member of the People's Militia of the separatist LPR republic was killed as a result of sniper fire from the Ukrainian government side #Ukraine

— Michael A. Horowitz (@michaelh992) February 15, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 13:25 (two years ago) link

Daily Mirror still on the beat.

Daily Mirror is not buying de-escalation talk today and insists the invasion will begin at 3am tomorrow morning

“The Mirror’s senior American source warned our team in Kyiv with a simple one line message saying: 3am Wednesday.”

🤦🏻‍♂️https://t.co/jZInOdSqj9

— Shaun Walker (@shaunwalker7) February 15, 2022

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 13:56 (two years ago) link

Maybe the senior American source is just dropping their new album.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 13:58 (two years ago) link

Paul Simenon’s new group Kiev 3AM

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 14:33 (two years ago) link

Why do I get the feeling the press is stroking themselves with the thought of an invasion.

Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 14:34 (two years ago) link

We are shelling out fortunes on the House of Lords for the likes of this.. pic.twitter.com/kZowUsCcNk

— Murray Foote (@murrayf00te) February 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link

Why do I get the feeling the press is stroking themselves with the thought of an invasion.

― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland)

Jim Sciutto was just on cnn pretty much calling Vlad a punk for backing down lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:19 (two years ago) link

Not sure what’s going on there but Truscott is married to an alleged ex-KGB agent and has been accused of having overly close ties to Russian businesses. I’m not sure he’s advocating for a war unless, perhaps, he’s recently divorced.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:19 (two years ago) link

Chris Morris otm

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:30 (two years ago) link

That's a v divorced dad q tbf

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link

As anticipated, Putin rejects recognition of "republics", insists on Minsk II.
Russian troops are "sort of" moving away from the border.
So, Moscow is anticipating a Paris/Berlin/DC move "to help" Kyiv with implementation of Minsk. Otherwise we're back where we've started https://t.co/x6N4h2oSWA

— Anton Barbashin (@ABarbashin) February 15, 2022

The Duma voted in favour of a bill put forward by the Communist Party for Putin to unilaterally recognise the LNR and DNR as independent and he’s said no.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 15:55 (two years ago) link

Ukraine could be under a cyberattack. So far, the website of the Ministry of Defense https://t.co/nrqxvlj1P2 and Armed Forces https://t.co/rT5ozqhXVE; are down;
problems reported with state banks Oschadbank & Privat

— Euromaidan Press (@EuromaidanPress) February 15, 2022

⚠️ Confirmed: Real-time network data show a loss of connectivity to #Ukraine's State Savings Bank, impacting ATM and banking services; disruptions also reported on Ministry of Defence and Armed Forces networks; incident comes amid heightened tensions with Russia 📉 pic.twitter.com/QMbPPpCzaV

— NetBlocks (@netblocks) February 15, 2022

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 17:04 (two years ago) link

Modern war - terrifying in strange new ways.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 18:26 (two years ago) link

could just be shitty comcast service again

snarl self own (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link

honestly i do better when i don't think about the real world. i am too pessimistic. for example, i believe with 99.5% confidence that in the next 10 years there will be a massive cyberattack on the u.s. (from within or without, doesn't even matter) knocking out telecommunications for much of the country. mind you, i have no idea what the fuck i'm talking about, but i believe it all the same

snarl self own (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 18:29 (two years ago) link

this is why countries should always keep their malwarebytes installation up to date

calzino, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 18:48 (two years ago) link

If the average person (or hell, any of us) was threatened with shutting off their internet cold turkey, 99.9% would roll over and let the Russians invade. And the other 0.1% are already living off the grid in the woods and won't even know it's happened.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 19:01 (two years ago) link

It's been a great time to prove you're hard.

Labour leader @Keir_Starmer tells me on @Channel4News “we should go now and hard with the sanctions” against Russia.

— Cathy Newman (@cathynewman) February 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link

xp I'd finally crack open that dusty old door stop Scuffy the Tugboat and begin my education

Bixby in a Samsung I know it's Siri-esque (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 20:29 (two years ago) link

how would this affect my saved game

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 20:51 (two years ago) link

So, am I piecing this together correctly? The Russian army just happened to thwart a "terrorist attack" in Donbas today and just, via sheer coincidence, happened to have multiple camera operators there to capture the thwarting from multiple angles?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 20:59 (two years ago) link

Is Djokovic is about to invade a sovereign state? Because if not, his prominence in the news bulletins is insane.

— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) February 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link

So, am I piecing this together correctly? The Russian army just happened to thwart a "terrorist attack" in Donbas today and just, via sheer coincidence, happened to have multiple camera operators there to capture the thwarting from multiple angles?

The FBI trained them well in the '90s.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 21:19 (two years ago) link

Sounds like shit might be getting real over there? Or maybe just Putin flexing further after Biden's presser.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link

The Russians have been avid students of secret police and espionage methods since the Czars. They'd be insulted to hear you say the FBI could teach them any new tricks.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link

it's always good to learn new stuff, thanx aimless

calzino, Tuesday, 15 February 2022 23:32 (two years ago) link

tell milo

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 23:33 (two years ago) link

Russia bad. America good.

concentrating on Rationality (the book) (will), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 23:36 (two years ago) link

Half right.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 February 2022 23:53 (two years ago) link

Yikes. Head of Zelensky’s Servant of the People party in parliament claims Western media “hysteria is now costing the country $2-3 billion every month,” calls CNN, Bloomberg, WSJ coverage “worse than Skabeeva and Solovyov, top Russian state propagandists. https://t.co/VjXrQLf55U pic.twitter.com/zH5bdrWM3e

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) February 16, 2022

I don't know how reliable Arakhamia is but hard agree that so called respectable western media outlets who are uncritically reporting highly questionable Whitehouse briefings every day are presently no better or are even worse than the top Russian state propagandists.

calzino, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link

At the same time, there is no way to know if the ott messaging/reporting from the west played any role in *preventing* a (further) Russian incursion (so far). Like, all that Russian military, blood banks, etc. weren't arrayed there for no reason at all.

All I know is it must be fun to be Putin.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 February 2022 15:54 (two years ago) link

At the same time, there is no way to know if the ott messaging/reporting from the west played any role in *preventing* a (further) Russian incursion (so far).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw

mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 16:05 (two years ago) link

after being bombarded 24/7 with 🚨 BREAKING, PUTIN TO INVADE ANY MINUTE NOW 🚨 only for the situation to be gradually de-escalated is probably the clearest sign you'll get that the press are just stenographers for imperialist interests. add it to the chart next to WMDs

— pez 🇬🇭 (@periuspb) February 16, 2022

a more accurate take

mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 16 February 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link


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