Down With the Sickness: Canadian Politics 2022

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https://theline.substack.com/p/dispatch-from-the-ottawa-front-sloly

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:27 (four years ago)

a friend of mine texted the group chat that link and i gave him shit (perhaps a bit too much) for linking to Jen Gerson's blog (i despise her) but either way, i hear Matt Gurney's not exactly a peach either

Murgatroid, Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:43 (four years ago)

I’m not so savvy on the Canadian media landscape, so I’m not sure who’s bad and hated (besides the obvious: Rex Murphy ouch)

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 10 February 2022 20:46 (four years ago)

Now I can feel part of things:

https://www.sarniathisweek.com/news/local-news/st-marys-expecting-convoy-style-protest-friday

I booked off work anyway because of expected bad weather. My wish would be that the entire town stays indoors while they throw their 45-minute tantrum.

clemenza, Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:12 (four years ago)

from this morning:

CBC Radio Ottawa now reporting protest vehicles being sent to block the airport. MPs, including those who support the occupation, might not be heading home for the weekend. Not sure how many hotel rooms will be available this weekend. Perhaps downtown residents can take them in?

— Greg MacEachern (@gmacofglebe) February 10, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 03:08 (four years ago)

While in my calmer moments I broadly agree with Coyne's assessment re how to respond to the occupation, I don't really know what he's talking about here - and I keep seeing this claim or versions of it:

the Liberals, the Prime Minister in particular, by using the vaccine mandate as a wedge issue, and vaccine refuseniks as objects of scorn;

When did he/they do this? How?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 03:27 (four years ago)

maybe making vaccine mandates an election issue? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58264006

he could have just passed his preferred federal vaccine policies instead of tying them to his re-election. not that this whole coyne critique matters much to me personally, but there has been some cynicism in Trudeau's approach.

symsymsym, Friday, 11 February 2022 03:33 (four years ago)

I don't really see how seeking an electoral mandate for it made it a wedge issue, and even less how it showed scorn or condescension (the other critique I keep hearing) towards the unvaccinated. I certainly don't see how that is at all equivalent to "the Conservatives, their probable future leader in particular, by supporting and encouraging the lawlessness in Ottawa".

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 03:38 (four years ago)

yeah I wouldn't say that at all of course. I haven't read the Coyne article, there's no equivalency in my mind. But Trudeau didn't need an election to pass any vaccine mandates, the election was called to avoid WE scrutiny.

symsymsym, Friday, 11 February 2022 03:48 (four years ago)

The narrative on the right is that JT is “dividing Canadians”, that he’s a Communist (lol) and that he’s dragging the country off a cliff. They’re painting him as an existential threat.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 11 February 2022 03:53 (four years ago)

This criticism (divisiveness and scorn towards the unvaccinated) is not just coming from the right:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-mp-politicization-pandemic-1.6343730
https://www.hilltimes.com/2022/02/09/quebec-liberal-mp-robillard-also-breaks-ranks-questions-trudeau-governments-handling-of-pandemic-sides-with-lightbound/343476

What are they talking about? Is there an actual instance someone can point to of Trudeau "demonizing" "people who question existing policies "?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 04:00 (four years ago)

Coyne is also not a Tory (or any) partisan by any stretch.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 04:01 (four years ago)

Coyne? He’s always been pretty right wing.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 11 February 2022 05:04 (four years ago)

Yeah definitely small c conservative, no? A moderate, "sensible" type of voice

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 11 February 2022 05:12 (four years ago)

He's definitely a neoliberal/free marketeer on economics and a hawk on foreign policy but he's not a partisan for or against any political party is what I meant. He slams Tories as much as Liberals or New Democrats for violations of ethics, Parliamentary procedure, or what he considers good policy principles. So e.g. he strongly supports the Liberals' carbon tax as a good market-based solution; opposed Harper's convoluted tax credits, culture war dog whistling, and restrictions on academic freedom; and favours electoral reform. The National Post comments sections typically rage against him for being a Liberal shill, which is lol. He usually votes for a third- or fourth-place party as a protest (Green last time, NDP in 2015, Liberal in 2011). If he's making this criticism of Trudeau, he probably believes it as opposed to just parroting a rw party line.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 12:56 (four years ago)

you could have just said he's a centrist instead of typing all those words

Murgatroid, Friday, 11 February 2022 15:29 (four years ago)

Haha, well, a lot of centrists have wishy-washy moderate positions on everything and value compromise and pragmatism. Coyne is an idealist with strong principles (one of the few people I think of as actually a 'classical liberal') that lead him to a set of strong but idiosyncratic opinions that don't line up with any party or leader, making him cynical about all of them.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 15:40 (four years ago)

Ford has declared state of emergency.

Kim, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:20 (four years ago)

Nice of him to take a break from his skiing trip to finally do something.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 11 February 2022 17:10 (four years ago)

Swear to god, my town's Facebook group is the government response in miniature. We're arguing about a post where someone suggests everyone in town just stays away for the 45 minutes they're supposed to be here--basically, what if they threw a blockade and no one came? I'm all for the post, but we're deadlocked; a couple people feel it'll spark anger on the other side. Don't want to upset the truckers, or the people who support them.

clemenza, Friday, 11 February 2022 17:17 (four years ago)

even less how it showed scorn or condescension

Soooo tired of this talking point about "elite condescension" or whatever. This apparently rampant paranoia among reg'lar conservative folks that somebody at a cocktail party somewhere is looking down on them. It seems to drive so much right-wing resentment politics. (Maybe it's really a fear that people at cocktail parties don't think about them at all.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 11 February 2022 17:40 (four years ago)

Freedom convoys to take place in Paris and Brussels. Our greatest cultural export!: https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/maladie/coronavirus/convoi-de-la-liberte/convoi-de-la-liberte-en-france-les-premiers-manifestants-vont-converger-vers-paris_4955439.html

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 17:41 (four years ago)

Paris is at least mobilizing 7000 cops to keep the convoy out. And I agree tipsy, developing a political stance in reaction to "feeling patronized" is such a precious snowflakey thing to do.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 17:50 (four years ago)

These Fords are really something huh

It’s so rare that the entire narrative of a press conference is demolished with two questions: pic.twitter.com/7dnixNzchF

— Jonathan Goldsbie (@goldsbie) February 11, 2022

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 11 February 2022 18:29 (four years ago)

They were blasting "For What It's Worth" just now while doing "what do we want? FREEDOM!" chants. I do sort of have to admire their joie de vivre at times. Guy even wished me a nice day when I gave them all the finger.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 19:15 (four years ago)

Lol that video

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Friday, 11 February 2022 19:15 (four years ago)

"For What It's Worth"? Points for that from me, anyway. The St. Marys convoy went through 40 minutes earlier than they said it would, so I just caught the tail end turning the corner. Big surprise, quite anti-climactic.

clemenza, Saturday, 12 February 2022 00:21 (four years ago)

Maybe next, the truckers will "Go and Say Goodbye".

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 12 February 2022 01:16 (four years ago)

More to that - as much as I hate these people and their 'cause', I do have to hand it to them that they're doing it right:

Protesters built a professional stage today at the corner of Wellington and Metcalfe where they are now having a concert. This is after Ontario Premier Doug Ford introduced tougher fines and possible jail times for protesters behind blockades. #cdnpoli pic.twitter.com/XFS3baAkNF

— Stephanie Taylor (@StephTaylorCP) February 12, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 February 2022 02:42 (four years ago)

add "hauling out a professional stage" to the list of working class bona fides, in addition to "taking weeks off to drive across the country and stay in Ottawa"

Murgatroid, Saturday, 12 February 2022 03:32 (four years ago)

very working class so struggling

Murgatroid, Saturday, 12 February 2022 03:33 (four years ago)

Yeah obv not. The whole thing is absurd and I probably hate it more than anyone. Just giving them props for remembering to dance in their revolution or whatever.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 February 2022 11:48 (four years ago)

I keep thinking of the Community scene: "you built a bar - for which you needed lumber!" At this point, it's just hilarious that no one thought to intervene at any point in the process of constructing a professional concert stage on Parliament Hill.

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 February 2022 12:15 (four years ago)

Soooo tired of this talking point about "elite condescension" or whatever. This apparently rampant paranoia among reg'lar conservative folks that somebody at a cocktail party somewhere is looking down on them. It seems to drive so much right-wing resentment politics. (Maybe it's really a fear that people at cocktail parties don't think about them at all.)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, February 11, 2022 12:40 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Otm

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 12 February 2022 13:13 (four years ago)

A major backer of the convoy is making headlines: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-02-11/la-fi-tesla-race-discrimination-lawsuit

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 February 2022 16:08 (four years ago)

this seems like the kind of thing that will spread across the world like q anon. why? because you can't ban dumb ideas
freedom convoy

snarl self own (Karl Malone), Saturday, 12 February 2022 16:51 (four years ago)

So I guess they're no longer even trying to disavow any connection to this known overt white supremacist who wants to preserve "Anglo-Saxon bloodlines".

Our latest dispatch from Ottawa's nightlight

Convoy organizer and newly minted Wellington St. VIP Pat King came to enjoy Ottawa's Second Hottest Club.

King danced a jig on stage, while fireworks went off in the crowd in the background #cdnpoli #ottnews pic.twitter.com/uZwIl1aAP0

— Mackenzie Gray (@Gray_Mackenzie) February 12, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 February 2022 16:59 (four years ago)

And their voices rang/With that Aryan twang

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:02 (four years ago)

for reference:

King dives head first into the Great Replacement/white genocide myth. It's all a conspiracy, see. Because whites have "the strongest bloodlines."

He calls it the "anglo-saxon replacement" so antifa can't get mad at him.

Who is behind it? Muslims and the UN. /2 pic.twitter.com/mLhpCpjQiV

— YVCE 🧛‍♂️🧛‍♀️🧛‍♂️🧛 - ARCHIVE (@VestsCanada) August 10, 2019

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 February 2022 17:06 (four years ago)

This thread is broken in Zing for iPhone.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:20 (four years ago)

lol I tried to post a link to that bottom video of Pat King on FB and it got blocked (for obvious reasons).

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 12 February 2022 20:21 (four years ago)

Just participated in this march:

Counter-protest on Bank Street #Ottawa pic.twitter.com/1GylFqYRDq

— 𝙱𝚛𝚞𝚌𝚎 𝚅 𝙲𝚘𝚗𝚠𝚊𝚢 (@BruceVConway) February 12, 2022

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Saturday, 12 February 2022 21:09 (four years ago)

that looks like way more people on their feet than any of the protests I saw here

symsymsym, Saturday, 12 February 2022 21:15 (four years ago)

Over 2000 by the Citizen's count: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/trucker-convoy-counter-protesters-demand-action-from-police

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 February 2022 01:04 (four years ago)

The Winnipeg police arrested a pair of people today. Counter protesters. Who are also native. For blocking the road. In front of the trump trucker tantrumers.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 13 February 2022 01:13 (four years ago)

Link?

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 February 2022 02:32 (four years ago)

Ambassador Bridge cleared: https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/police-begin-second-push-to-clear-protesters-at-ambassador-bridge

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 February 2022 18:57 (four years ago)

Ottawa residents starting to do the police's job: https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/counter-protesters-block-convoy-vehicles-on-ottawa-streets-1.5779659

The sensual shock (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 February 2022 19:01 (four years ago)

"Members of the so-called "Freedom Convoy" occupying the nation's capital have attempted to hijack a symbol and slogan representing survivors of residential schools and Canada's efforts at reconciliation."

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/truck-convoy-members-try-to-hijack-symbol-and-slogan-of-residential-school-survivors-1.5779154

Punster McPunisher, Sunday, 13 February 2022 19:48 (four years ago)


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