The Jordan Peterson Thread

can someone explain what the heck any of this even means or am I better off not knowing?

This is a guy who has been throwing one big temper tantrum ever since someone asked him to use their preferred pronouns. He just keeps getting angrier and weirder. These levels of cope have never been seen before. Unprecedented. pic.twitter.com/7GCovnh0yS

— Jort-Michel Connard 🐘 (@torriangray) February 3, 2022

I assume "wordcel" means someone who cares about pronouns? god, I have no idea with this guy. half the tweets/quotes I see from him these guys are so over-the-top weird that I assume they're fake. but they're not. and yet people I work with still quote him.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cultures/wordcel

Wordcel is a slang term derived from incel used to define someone who has high verbal intelligence and is "good with words" but feels inadequately compensated for their skill, the "cel" suffix denoting frustration over being denied something they feel they deserve. The term rose in popularity in early 2022 along with the related term "numbercel," also called "mathcel" or "shape rotator," used to define someone with high command in a technical STEM field but feels they deserve more respect for it. Wordcels and numbercels are often portrayed as rivals.

For fuck's sake.

so "inadequately compensated" means "can't get laid" right? these are variants on incel but with certain supposed specializations? and now they are fighting it out against each other?

also, I like how frogbs interpretation, while not correct, seemed utterly plausible too

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/wordcels-numbercels-definition

it all boils down to a massive sense of entitlement spanning all sorts of petty grievances

The idea of a host of sweaty engineers bent over their phones tweeting to each other about how the artsy guys are lame virgins who can't FUCK like CS majors

and also evil weirdo billionaire marc andreessen!

massive LOL @ the guy who specializes in mythopoetic gobbeldygook and who evidently doesn't understand how scientific modeling works being "WE GOTTA PROTECT STEM FROM THE HUMANITIES LOSERS"

Like, how tf did this clown get a PhD?

he's got that Scott Adams thing going on, a reasonably intelligent person who thinks he's several orders of magnitude smarter than he actually is, who drew some attention and got his shitty/dumb takes exposed and reacted to it with a full-on cognitive dissonance meltdown

I'm guessing thru patriarchy

xp

and this is of course an arc that all x-cel types relate to: full life meltdown due to the misguided perception that they are smarter and more deserving than they really are

"shape rotator" as a slur for someone who's good at math sounds like a Simpsons joke.

t all boils down to a massive sense of entitlement spanning all sorts of petty grievances

this looks to me like blowback from TAG kids who mistakenly believed in the perpetual continuance of their special privileges because they were already marked out for future happiness and success.

"shape rotator" as a slur for someone who's good at math sounds like a Simpsons joke.

Lmao “fork and spoon operator”.

It all boils down to…

Could also be a subset of the Dunning Kruger effect.

Dunning-Kruger effect, in psychology, a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.

it's a choad

[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKsF4KaVgAEH8eT?format=jpg&name=medium

Like, how tf did this clown get a PhD?

― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, February 3, 2022 12:07 PM (forty-seven minutes ago)

psychology is a grift ;)

The idea of a host of sweaty engineers bent over their phones tweeting to each other about how the artsy guys are lame virgins who can't FUCK like CS majors

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, February 3, 2022 10:45 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

"If Olivia from my math section would only let me show her how I rotate my shape"

There is and always has been less to this clown that meets the eye, despite the best efforts of the nyt et al to search for more

If all else fails he'll always be assured of a warm and respectful welcome at the BBC.

Maybe 60 Minutes.

Simply one of the funniest fucking things I have ever seen pic.twitter.com/u4aEe9gBAF

— Michael Hobbes (@RottenInDenmark) February 2, 2022

and they said comedy was dead

No that's irony

oh. well everyone agrees that's alive

I was trying to say that irony is dead tbh but I can't really make an unironic case for it.

the maintenance phase episode on belle gibson is well worth a listen
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1411126/9989949-illness-influencer-belle-gibson

(hobbes is one of the hosts and the episode features an interview with gibson on 60 minutes)

my wife was listening to that the other day and it's a very wild grifter tale

The best thing about being a shape rotator is that you have no need for pornography. You can simply mentally rotate Betty Boop upside down so her skirt flips up

— pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat) February 5, 2022

When worlds collide

Guess who pic.twitter.com/783rU9U9YR

— Dr Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) February 5, 2022

Not Skrillex too!

spent all night swappin benzos

Can a mod please move this thread to ILM? Thx.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1po9pNs8RU

Everyone's got a hustle.

Watch out Leni Riefenstahl, there's a new kid in town.

Triumph of the Weenie

glad he cleared this up

Postmodern NeoMarxists: Ibram X Kendi, Ta-Nahesi-Coates, Robin DiAngelo, Kimberle Crenshaw, bell hooks, Andrea Dworkin, Michel Foucault, Naomi Klein, Catherine McKinnon, Judith Butler, Jacques Derrida and, perhaps above all, Michel Foucault. This list is not complete.

— Dr Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) March 14, 2022

those figures all believed vastly different things

as always the problem with this guy is that he is a dumbass

It was nice when he was just stuck in a benzo coma in Moscow or whatever that disappearing act was.

this is like a list a child would write. "favorite baseball players:" and it's just random players from different eras and his local single-A team and todd bonzalez

In peterson's world the category 'postmodern" is just a heterogeneous pile of ideas he rejects because he finds them threatening.

Michel Foucault, gotta get the papers.

I think he meant to make this list into a poll on ILX.

glad that foucault gets so much ire, you'd think he was passe when i went to grad school in the late 2000s.

this list has some coherence in that you could say it's populated by people who think humans are responsible for creating the status quo, and could therefore change it, instead of believing that the status quo is a law of god.

So weird to see Andrea Dworkin's name on anything in 2022.

she's had a bit of a resurgence afaict

it's a p good reading list

Initially read Kimberle Crenshaw as Matthew Crenshaw--which prob wouldn't even make his Top 50 wackiest claims.

(oops--meant Marshall. Too many Crenshaws!)