"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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jfc alleging obv

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:30 (four years ago)

lots of people up in arms about this didn't care when that bullshit about Corbyn being a Czech spy was doing the rounds

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:31 (four years ago)

oh for sure

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:34 (four years ago)

even OJ has been otm on this: melts that encouraged the smear machine when it was shitting on Corbyn can't complain when it turns on their boy

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:35 (four years ago)

The BBC seems intent on repeating the libellous thing that Johnson did not say (that Starmer protected Savile) rather than the misleading thing he did. Not sure who wins here.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:51 (four years ago)

Democracy.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:56 (four years ago)

OS will be rethinking how these segments can be screenshotted but in context this made sense - they were demonstrating how johnson’s statement was contiguous with toxic internet lies

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 07:21 (four years ago)

it seems the BBC got twitter to take it down. But I still know what Kieth didn't do that summer!

calzino, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 08:37 (four years ago)

Used to see Jimmy Savile at the Flying Pizza on Street Lane, Roundhay. Always in good spirits. RIP

— Liz Truss (@trussliz) October 29, 2011

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:42 (four years ago)

Gotcha!

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:44 (four years ago)

unless it is some other Jimmy Savile, also "in good spirits", who also happened to die in 2011

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:46 (four years ago)

Saw a bit of "saw Kieth laying a wreath at Saville's grave" banter. When someone said "you Corbyn lot are all being as bad as they were" everyone was like "get fucked I just want revenge now". You might call it depressing, I'm calling it another day on hell island.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:47 (four years ago)

I used to know someone who claimed when volunteering as a drinks dispenser at a charity run in Leeds in the 80's, they spiked his drink with an acid tab because he was a rude cunt. I was never sure if they were bullshitting me, but it would funny as fuck if true.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:53 (four years ago)

wasting acid makes me sad

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:59 (four years ago)

well yeah he might have enjoyed it. But always that chance that the trip went bad while he was having one oh his regular visits to the morgue.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 10:05 (four years ago)

or better than usual

Mark G, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 11:21 (four years ago)

I remember arriving in the UK in the mid-eighties and seeing Savile plastered all over the TV and thinking how on earth does this complete weirdo loom so large on the UK broadcast landscape and beyond. It was quite striking. I guess it's the case of if you grew up with him, you somehow became inured to how bizarre he really was

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 11:51 (four years ago)

https://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jimmy-Savile-book-children.jpeg
I always remember in the 70's, this government handbook in my house from when my mum became a registered childminder. There was a profile of our next door but one neighbour, Sheila who also was a childminder and it mentioned the rabbits she kept in her back garden, not as pets but as a source of food!

calzino, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 12:03 (four years ago)

More like a hands on book for kiddie fiddlers.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 12:15 (four years ago)

We've been tracking the £4.7bn in levelling up funding announced so far: here we looked at poorer areas that are missing out and richer areas that are doing v well (mostly represented by Cabinet ministers) https://t.co/dv9MipfAIu pic.twitter.com/ax0WJJPyGG

— Niamh McIntyre (@niamh_mcintyre) February 2, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:53 (four years ago)

If this doesn't have an impact on the Tories nothing will.

Breaking news: Domestic energy bills in Britain will soar to their highest level in more than a decade in the spring. The standard cap will increase by £693 https://t.co/fbgLsWA5oy pic.twitter.com/665B2taUpW

— Financial Times (@FinancialTimes) February 3, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 12:23 (four years ago)

Reeves is talking like Labour's £11.48 a week means tested relief for low income people is going to make a fuck of difference, they will still be in fuel poverty.

calzino, Thursday, 3 February 2022 12:27 (four years ago)

Even better, Sunak will get a most of the blame for it.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 February 2022 12:28 (four years ago)

Lol

2/ The first part of the rebate spreads the extra costs of this year’s energy price shock.

In October all domestic electricity customers will receive a £200 discount on their bills.

People will then have five years to repay that discount in equal instalments of £40 a year.

— Rishi Sunak (@RishiSunak) February 3, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 12:37 (four years ago)

That's France, not China

🙂 pic.twitter.com/APU5LkxA7x

— peach (@peachlux_) February 3, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:09 (four years ago)

In China you'd get that plus a live execution of the EDF CEO.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:10 (four years ago)

it’s almost as if public ownership of utilities was a good idea

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:19 (four years ago)

just listening to some dust blooded economist vampire on Radio 4 and i had the epiphany that this is only a hellscape if you kid yourself things could be better

sweet relief

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:27 (four years ago)

we should shoot the economists first

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:27 (four years ago)

if you see sid, tell 'im.

koogs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:28 (four years ago)

how about this, wild idea so hear me out

the government owns and provisions water, gas and electricity

maybe they use contractors maybe they don’t idk

and here’s the thing: there are no bills and no one pays anything

would there be issues? things to iron out? sure but feels like a better starting point than topping up people’s private bills

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:35 (four years ago)

yeah but then you wouldn't allow a handful of individuals to amass obscene fortunes and who wants that?

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:36 (four years ago)

i knew there was something missing!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:41 (four years ago)

An old friend of mine who lives in Berlin once told me you get free electricity/gas when you are on unemployment benefits in Germany. Although this was some years ago. Meanwhile in the UK the only good option is to link your meter out and steal it if you can't afford it!

calzino, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:49 (four years ago)

> and here’s the thing: there are no bills and no one pays anything

this would just allow people to use as much as they like, which would be bad (unless, say, it was renewable energy).

always puzzles me why people don't insulate more, it could permanently reduce their bills. obama suggested as much.

koogs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:04 (four years ago)

i know, and they eat too much avocado toast as well

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:05 (four years ago)

obama suggested as much.

there, to a large extent, is yr answer

Allegra do Povo (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:14 (four years ago)

you can't insulate a property you don't own

devvvine, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:15 (four years ago)

the owner could

koogs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:17 (four years ago)

Weirdly enough, and this may come as a surprise, but a lot of landlords don't give a flying fuck about the well-being of their victims

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:18 (four years ago)

no, wait, a better idea. the government could own all the houses and give them out free along with the water, gas and electricity.

ooh, and broadband too.

koogs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:20 (four years ago)

and childcare.

koogs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:21 (four years ago)

is public housing bad now?

calzino, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:23 (four years ago)

no, wait, a better idea. the government could own all the houses and give them out free along with the water, gas and electricity.

ooh, and broadband too.

― koogs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 bookmarkflaglink

This is communism

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:26 (four years ago)

of course you'd need to meter it - if somebody wanted to use over a certain generous amount to grow weed in a closet or something then they'd need to pay, or apply for a dispensation or something, but these are solvable problems, at least much more so than the problems introduced by a system where the companies supplying essential services to the public are incentivized to charge as much as they possibly can and cry poverty while their executives rake in massive bonuses year after year

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:33 (four years ago)

these companies are literally getting the government to pay their bills already, so we might as well own the fucking things!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:34 (four years ago)

i mean yes this is a sop to voters, and a good kind of sop, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that it’s also a bail-out, just a very inefficient one

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:36 (four years ago)

I think if Corbz/JMac had presented their broadband communism proposal as part of wider narrative of Universal Public Services - utilities, plus also transport and education - aimed at euthenizing the various rentiers (as twitter user @tristandross put it this morning "the problem with the remorseless and ceaseless accumulation of wealth is that eventually you run out of other people to extract capital from") then it might have made more sense than as a rando retail politics offer.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:41 (four years ago)

I'd say that a lot of landlords, who are under no pressure to do this under UK law, should concentrate on upgrading their props up to "fit for human habitation" standard before fucking insulating them. But I'd also say liquidate every last one of the parasitical scumbags.

calzino, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:47 (four years ago)

Yes we can!

calzino, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:48 (four years ago)


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