"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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I think there were other problems with Lewis, specifically his behaviour around women and I think some complaints were made against him. Although I forget the details.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:27 (four years ago)

Literally almost exactly what I was going to say. There were loads of other issues with him.

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:32 (four years ago)

he also seemed to have retained a lot of the loud boorish ways that men pick up when they take the queen's shilling and barrack up together. I know he apparently suffered from PTDS from his combat time or whatever, but that doesn't excuse acting like a dickhead.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:40 (four years ago)

and now he's in the melt wing of the SCG

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:45 (four years ago)

good thread

Keir Starmer was head of CPS when the 2009 ruling not to prosecute Jimmy Savile was made, but most likely wasn't directly involved in that decision. Make of that what you like.

HOWEVER. Here's a handy list of things you 100% CAN criticise him for while he was DPP... (🧵1/8)

— Joseph Attard (@josephattard02) February 1, 2022

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:48 (four years ago)

“…Starmer’s approach as DPP…might raise worries that he would not give a principled defence of the victims but would tell the press whatever it wanted to hear."

well colour me surprised

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:18 (four years ago)

Yes, I think that summary of his character is more useful than reference to any particular (inevitably complex) case.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:25 (four years ago)

think there's prob a reason why Johnson didn't bring up the wrongdoings in that thread

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 13:58 (four years ago)

Regret to inform you that Stella Creasy is good now

Just Stella Creasy putting Glinner back in his box 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/eCw0voRu4w

— Banquo's Ghost (@_banquos_ghost_) February 1, 2022

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 14:05 (four years ago)

The problem with Savile is that he remains a mystery. How did he manage to so successfully penetrate public life, to an administrative level, then linger there so long? Nobody knows, exactly. We have a vague narrative, but there are clearly rocks which will never be turned over.

— barney farmer (@barneyfarmer) February 1, 2022

Savile is like a skeleton key to a whole underbelly of establishment politics from the 1970s to the early 200s, I encourage Boris Johnson to keep bringing him up and getting us to pick at this wound. Like Trump in the USA he will expose a lot of aspects of politics that the establishment on all sides would prefer to vanish into historical memory

glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 14:06 (four years ago)

Oh wow, them's the rules

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 14:07 (four years ago)

xp

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 14:08 (four years ago)

oof

🚨 NOT GOOD 🚨 pic.twitter.com/BnZI81F8MD

— w//m (@willuminare) February 1, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:17 (four years ago)

it seems they were trying to highlight how misinformation is shared on social media but didn't label it lol! It's like what someone posted earlier "when you squeeze that toothpaste out it's hard to put it back into the tube again".

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:28 (four years ago)

apparently its a screengrab of a meme that originates from a far-right facebook group who are peddling a conspiracy theory allegding that labour councillors are protecting grooming gangs

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:29 (four years ago)

jfc alleging obv

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:30 (four years ago)

lots of people up in arms about this didn't care when that bullshit about Corbyn being a Czech spy was doing the rounds

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:31 (four years ago)

oh for sure

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:34 (four years ago)

even OJ has been otm on this: melts that encouraged the smear machine when it was shitting on Corbyn can't complain when it turns on their boy

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:35 (four years ago)

The BBC seems intent on repeating the libellous thing that Johnson did not say (that Starmer protected Savile) rather than the misleading thing he did. Not sure who wins here.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:51 (four years ago)

Democracy.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 20:56 (four years ago)

OS will be rethinking how these segments can be screenshotted but in context this made sense - they were demonstrating how johnson’s statement was contiguous with toxic internet lies

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 07:21 (four years ago)

it seems the BBC got twitter to take it down. But I still know what Kieth didn't do that summer!

calzino, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 08:37 (four years ago)

Used to see Jimmy Savile at the Flying Pizza on Street Lane, Roundhay. Always in good spirits. RIP

— Liz Truss (@trussliz) October 29, 2011

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:42 (four years ago)

Gotcha!

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:44 (four years ago)

unless it is some other Jimmy Savile, also "in good spirits", who also happened to die in 2011

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:46 (four years ago)

Saw a bit of "saw Kieth laying a wreath at Saville's grave" banter. When someone said "you Corbyn lot are all being as bad as they were" everyone was like "get fucked I just want revenge now". You might call it depressing, I'm calling it another day on hell island.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:47 (four years ago)

I used to know someone who claimed when volunteering as a drinks dispenser at a charity run in Leeds in the 80's, they spiked his drink with an acid tab because he was a rude cunt. I was never sure if they were bullshitting me, but it would funny as fuck if true.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:53 (four years ago)

wasting acid makes me sad

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 09:59 (four years ago)

well yeah he might have enjoyed it. But always that chance that the trip went bad while he was having one oh his regular visits to the morgue.

calzino, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 10:05 (four years ago)

or better than usual

Mark G, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 11:21 (four years ago)

I remember arriving in the UK in the mid-eighties and seeing Savile plastered all over the TV and thinking how on earth does this complete weirdo loom so large on the UK broadcast landscape and beyond. It was quite striking. I guess it's the case of if you grew up with him, you somehow became inured to how bizarre he really was

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 11:51 (four years ago)

https://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jimmy-Savile-book-children.jpeg
I always remember in the 70's, this government handbook in my house from when my mum became a registered childminder. There was a profile of our next door but one neighbour, Sheila who also was a childminder and it mentioned the rabbits she kept in her back garden, not as pets but as a source of food!

calzino, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 12:03 (four years ago)

More like a hands on book for kiddie fiddlers.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 12:15 (four years ago)

We've been tracking the £4.7bn in levelling up funding announced so far: here we looked at poorer areas that are missing out and richer areas that are doing v well (mostly represented by Cabinet ministers) https://t.co/dv9MipfAIu pic.twitter.com/ax0WJJPyGG

— Niamh McIntyre (@niamh_mcintyre) February 2, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:53 (four years ago)

If this doesn't have an impact on the Tories nothing will.

Breaking news: Domestic energy bills in Britain will soar to their highest level in more than a decade in the spring. The standard cap will increase by £693 https://t.co/fbgLsWA5oy pic.twitter.com/665B2taUpW

— Financial Times (@FinancialTimes) February 3, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 12:23 (four years ago)

Reeves is talking like Labour's £11.48 a week means tested relief for low income people is going to make a fuck of difference, they will still be in fuel poverty.

calzino, Thursday, 3 February 2022 12:27 (four years ago)

Even better, Sunak will get a most of the blame for it.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 February 2022 12:28 (four years ago)

Lol

2/ The first part of the rebate spreads the extra costs of this year’s energy price shock.

In October all domestic electricity customers will receive a £200 discount on their bills.

People will then have five years to repay that discount in equal instalments of £40 a year.

— Rishi Sunak (@RishiSunak) February 3, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 12:37 (four years ago)

That's France, not China

🙂 pic.twitter.com/APU5LkxA7x

— peach (@peachlux_) February 3, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:09 (four years ago)

In China you'd get that plus a live execution of the EDF CEO.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:10 (four years ago)

it’s almost as if public ownership of utilities was a good idea

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:19 (four years ago)

just listening to some dust blooded economist vampire on Radio 4 and i had the epiphany that this is only a hellscape if you kid yourself things could be better

sweet relief

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:27 (four years ago)

we should shoot the economists first

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:27 (four years ago)

if you see sid, tell 'im.

koogs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:28 (four years ago)

how about this, wild idea so hear me out

the government owns and provisions water, gas and electricity

maybe they use contractors maybe they don’t idk

and here’s the thing: there are no bills and no one pays anything

would there be issues? things to iron out? sure but feels like a better starting point than topping up people’s private bills

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:35 (four years ago)

yeah but then you wouldn't allow a handful of individuals to amass obscene fortunes and who wants that?

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:36 (four years ago)

i knew there was something missing!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:41 (four years ago)

An old friend of mine who lives in Berlin once told me you get free electricity/gas when you are on unemployment benefits in Germany. Although this was some years ago. Meanwhile in the UK the only good option is to link your meter out and steal it if you can't afford it!

calzino, Thursday, 3 February 2022 13:49 (four years ago)

> and here’s the thing: there are no bills and no one pays anything

this would just allow people to use as much as they like, which would be bad (unless, say, it was renewable energy).

always puzzles me why people don't insulate more, it could permanently reduce their bills. obama suggested as much.

koogs, Thursday, 3 February 2022 14:04 (four years ago)


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