"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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it is definitely a political choice i.e. don’t piss off the daily mail, which feels like the guiding principle of a vast preponderance of the bbc estate

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Tracer Hand, Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:04 (four years ago)

I remember the time that senile fuck Humphrys introduced Patten as "the last governor of China". Yes it was misspoken but quite revealing all the same.

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:04 (four years ago)

I’d describe “associating Corbyn’s concern for Irish people with the Ra” as quite a bit further right than “melt”, tbh. That’s someone I’d cross the street to avoid.

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:05 (four years ago)

lol remember when Boris wasn't gonna wriggle his way out of this one?

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 January 2022 13:24 (four years ago)

Ah! Well. Nevertheless,

Allegra do Povo (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 31 January 2022 13:34 (four years ago)

Labour whips & LOTO will think this a bit rich. The whips have been forwarded thousands of complaints about Duffield & not acted. They’ve expended political capital on her but she seems to think Labour should be using real capital to fund her suing people.https://t.co/kzVfIuFm6Z

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) January 31, 2022

lol she expects a party that has been near bankrupted by ill advised lawsuits to finance her own frivolous courtroom adventures, what an entitled idiot.

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 14:13 (four years ago)

Been getting a lot of Breaking News alerts on my phone today. That can only mean one thing: Boris has wriggled his way out of this jam jar!

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 14:43 (four years ago)

Johnson just accused Starmer of failing to prosecute Jimmy Savile, it has begun

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 31 January 2022 15:52 (four years ago)

funny cos it's true :P

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 15:57 (four years ago)

i for one love to see it read about at a distance eventually

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 January 2022 15:57 (four years ago)

I would gain new-found respect for Starmer if he'd responded with a Savile "now then now then" impersonation

build back a better mousetrap (Matt #2), Monday, 31 January 2022 16:02 (four years ago)

between this and Wolves not signing anybody Twitter is a shitshow today

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 January 2022 16:03 (four years ago)

Theresa May 🔥

— Gary Neville (@GNev2) January 31, 2022

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 31 January 2022 16:04 (four years ago)

Racking my brains to remember if May did anything inappropriate and illegal in power and coming up short…It can’t have been import.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 31 January 2022 16:06 (four years ago)

the millionaire's union rep strikes again!

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 16:06 (four years ago)

lads are we sure he's not saying she should be burned?

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Monday, 31 January 2022 16:40 (four years ago)

perhaps emojis are the only way he can express pure unbridled sexual desire

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 16:52 (four years ago)

He’s a disgrace . Has he just used the name of Jimmy Saville in the Houses of Parliament . Go FFS!

— Gary Neville (@GNev2) January 31, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 January 2022 18:05 (four years ago)

How dare he take jimmy savilles name in vain

Nerd Ragequit (wins), Monday, 31 January 2022 18:06 (four years ago)

The truth doesn't matter.

Reuters wrote in 2021: "There is no evidence to suggest Sir Keir Starmer, then DPP of the CPS, was directly involved in the decision not to prosecute Jimmy Savile."
https://t.co/i2MiCD3tA2

— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) January 31, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 January 2022 18:26 (four years ago)

It is funny how Boris manages to tie Saville, a prominent Tory celebrity and advisor to Thatcher to the Labour leader though. If anyone deserves that it's Starmer tbf

glumdalclitch, Monday, 31 January 2022 18:29 (four years ago)

it tickles me a lot because it's funny and lots of idiots believe it and fuck Starmer!

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 18:36 (four years ago)

I wonder if Gaz knows about Saville's Christmas dinners with QEII and yes his close association with many members of parliament, maybe some of them still standing MPs.

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 18:38 (four years ago)

anyway Boris has to tread carefully highlighting Starmer's DPP record because it will just make him more popular with Tory voters.

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 19:01 (four years ago)

Critic of the PM sums up his address to 1922:

“It’s all a joke & brazenly defiant, saying its the civil servants, it’s the advisers…And apparently any new exposes are ‘irrelevant’ & ‘we got through it’. Smattered with Chocolate orange jokes, Shakespeare & some French bluffing.”

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) January 31, 2022

which apparently "charmed the birds out of the trees" and "there's no chance they get 54 now"

stet, Monday, 31 January 2022 21:23 (four years ago)

oh well.. we've been deprived of the third Tory leadership election since 2016. I can live with that. Until they decide to kill me next ..lol

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 21:42 (four years ago)

There’s no way this is the worst dirt they have on him. If whoever is orchestrating it decides they still want him out, expect to hear a lot more about his redecorating, I guess.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 31 January 2022 21:45 (four years ago)

Johnson just accused Starmer of failing to prosecute Jimmy Savile, it has begun

just wondering - is this something that starmer could successfully sue johnson for if he ever resorts to using it outside of parliament?

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Monday, 31 January 2022 21:52 (four years ago)

https://cdni.rbth.com/rbthmedia/images/2017.12/original/5a2fef0385600a6111428510.jpg

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 22:06 (four years ago)

Liz Truss has tested positive for covid. She attended the packed meeting of Tory MPs and ministers in Portcullis House this evening, leaving before it finished. She was not wearing a mask.

— Kate McCann (@KateEMcCann) January 31, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 January 2022 22:31 (four years ago)

just wondering - is this something that starmer could successfully sue johnson for if he ever resorts to using it outside of parliament?

I would say not, tbh. I don’t think it falls into the category of defamation, even if untrue, though that would be for a judge and jury to determine and you can never tell.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Monday, 31 January 2022 22:52 (four years ago)

and because it's true!

calzino, Monday, 31 January 2022 23:02 (four years ago)

Getting this shit tested in court would be hilarious tbh!

xyzzzz__, Monday, 31 January 2022 23:04 (four years ago)

It's been used.

Both Priti Patel and Sajid Javid used the Savile gotcha against Starmer during the general election campaign in 2019, and on TV too, but as with a lot of that campaign no sooner had it been reported than a blanket decision was taken not to bring it up again. pic.twitter.com/QOpUTrO5bs

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) February 1, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 09:33 (four years ago)

he apologised for the CPS failure to do their job properly under his watch, as the head of the department at the time he does bear some accountability for its failure to prosecute Savile. The Q anon comparison is way off the mark even if it is being shared alongside it on dodgy right-wing FB groups.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 09:59 (four years ago)

offensive gambits and untruthful slurs.. goodness me when did this start happening in UK politics!

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 10:17 (four years ago)

Is that Helen Lewis complaining about people picking up far right talking points

lol, the ironing of it

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 10:20 (four years ago)

me to cartoonist james gillray in 1783 (prissily): "sir i think you'll faind that the politicians lord north (on the left) and fox (on the right) never both shit into the same pot bearing the royal coat of arms whilst the devil stirred the stinky contents! this goes beyond the mocking cut and thrust of debate!"

mark s, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 10:25 (four years ago)

I’m not even sure the CPS did mess up that badly but I guess the lesson of apologising for things that aren’t really your fault and having that apology used as a stick to beat you with forever more didn’t really take with him.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:37 (four years ago)

would you say the Tory AG from that period was more at fault here than Kieth? Not that that I'm too bothered about the truth in this case, but it's fair to say someone fucked up. Admittedly I don't know shit about the process of how a CPS prosecution might be pursued/or not pursued tbh!

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:48 (four years ago)

The police more than anything else, I think. When they took the info to the CPS, the position was that none of the victims were willing to cooperate with a prosecution. Where the CPS failed was not pushing the police on the details of why.

aiui, the police were more sceptical than they should have been and didn’t tell any of the complainants that other people had made similar allegations, which led to a situation where they thought they’d be the sole focus of action taken against Savile and, consequently get a lot more pressure and scrutiny than they would have as a group.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:56 (four years ago)

oh god yeah Savile and his network of police friends

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 11:58 (four years ago)

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/12/01/27086356-0-image-a-99_1586649921101.jpg

conrad, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:09 (four years ago)

that old lil Kieth pic with the barrister wig kills me, he looks a child going to a fancy dress birthday party

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:14 (four years ago)

Seeing Clive Lewis's comments on structural problems with democracy, police, etc, I reflect on how he never made it past the first round of leadership contest early 2020. Not because unpopular with members but with MPs.

He would have been better than anyone except quite possibly RLB.

As poster Calzino has said before: it is a fact that Labour socialists at that time complacently or wearily let KS take it, thinking this would be vaguely OK, rather than realise that this needed to be a fight to the death, and their own political expulsion was imminent if they failed. Which we did.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:21 (four years ago)

I think there were other problems with Lewis, specifically his behaviour around women and I think some complaints were made against him. Although I forget the details.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:27 (four years ago)

Literally almost exactly what I was going to say. There were loads of other issues with him.

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:32 (four years ago)

he also seemed to have retained a lot of the loud boorish ways that men pick up when they take the queen's shilling and barrack up together. I know he apparently suffered from PTDS from his combat time or whatever, but that doesn't excuse acting like a dickhead.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:40 (four years ago)

and now he's in the melt wing of the SCG

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:45 (four years ago)

good thread

Keir Starmer was head of CPS when the 2009 ruling not to prosecute Jimmy Savile was made, but most likely wasn't directly involved in that decision. Make of that what you like.

HOWEVER. Here's a handy list of things you 100% CAN criticise him for while he was DPP... (🧵1/8)

— Joseph Attard (@josephattard02) February 1, 2022

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 12:48 (four years ago)


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