"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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An exclusive survey has been carried out by @MuslimCensus on the Muslim vote, and the findings are bleak for the Labour Party:

- Labour are at risk of losing over half (55%) of their Muslim vote.

- 1 in 4 Muslims aged 18-24 would not vote if there was an election tomorrow

— Hamza (@Hamza_a96) January 28, 2022

calzino, Friday, 28 January 2022 17:11 (four years ago)

Good Lord, is Johnson really going to hide in Ukraine?

a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Saturday, 29 January 2022 06:26 (four years ago)

Kieth's radical program to "deal with the cost of living crisis" through a windfall tax would make everybody 0.54 pence a day better off and through means testing poorer people would be £1.64 a day better off. And that's the discernible difference between them and the Tories rn.

calzino, Saturday, 29 January 2022 09:28 (four years ago)

Ever since @thatbloodyMikey pointed this out I can’t unsee it pic.twitter.com/jQ5Ouk8Ftm

— gem (@Project_Coup) January 29, 2022

calzino, Saturday, 29 January 2022 11:46 (four years ago)

it looks like the meltier members of the SCG are breaking off and forming a group of pragmatic sensible adults that will be nicer to Kieth. You could see there was a split over that Welfare Cap vote.

calzino, Saturday, 29 January 2022 13:32 (four years ago)

Absolutely no surprises about the make up of the new SCG melt-wing pic.twitter.com/uh7rwUmdEV

— Daniel (@hideous_replica) January 30, 2022

they are deluded melts if they think they are going to have more of an influence on things by playing nicer and compromising with these implacable right-wing scumbags.

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 09:33 (four years ago)

Okay, which one of you did this? pic.twitter.com/VEiqjcz8XA

— WikiJewSoc🕎🌹 (@JewSoc) January 30, 2022

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 09:39 (four years ago)

JC's speech on Bloody Sunday in Derry Guildhall. From about 35 minutes on the video.

Watching @jeremycorbyn deliver the #BloodySunday50 annual lecture in Derry. Such a lovely welcome & such respect for him in the Guildhall, full of people who have given their lives to the fight for justice & truth. They know. ✊ https://t.co/8fzp7ZawVM

— Ben Sellers (@MrBenSellers) January 29, 2022

No one else in English politics would be invited to give this or have the knowledge or ability to write it.

the pinefox, Sunday, 30 January 2022 09:53 (four years ago)

Delighted to meet @jeremycorbyn today 🥰 pic.twitter.com/Ib4F0DSH4P

— Mairéad Farrell TD (@Farrell_Mairead) January 29, 2022

nor have a Sinn Féin TD looking genuinely delighted to meet him!

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 09:56 (four years ago)

xp yeah I’m sure this will anger all the worst people in the world but I don’t care at all given this also happened this week

Today another Member of Parliament claimed British soldiers deployed to Northern Ireland not to keep the peace, but to ‘murder’ civilians.

The Nation is rightly proud of our Northern Ireland veterans, so I stayed behind to make sure his childish wittering was not unanswered. 👇 pic.twitter.com/m4yjxXPlmb

— Johnny Mercer (@JohnnyMercerUK) January 26, 2022

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:03 (four years ago)

Johnny Mercernary

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:18 (four years ago)

does that single issue cunt ever perk up over anything else other than the rights of British soldiers to murder civilians? (admittedly I'm not best placed to criticise single issue ppl in politics, but fuck it!)

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:24 (four years ago)

lol but also yes but also lol

tbh what is a nation state if not a pack of rabid cunt murderers?

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:26 (four years ago)

He also tweeted this, not even worth further comment

What happened on Bloody Sunday was unequivocally wrong. The actions of a few fell far below the standards of the many. And the families were let down by the British State over many, many years.

“Unjustified and unjustifiable”. A poignant weekend. pic.twitter.com/ZxLXldk2Ka

— Johnny Mercer (@JohnnyMercerUK) January 29, 2022

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:28 (four years ago)

just cos standards dipped doesn't mean you should be prosecuted

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:35 (four years ago)

yep, the old "it was just a few bad apples" bullshit

^^^

and he'd defend every last one of them to the death.

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:36 (four years ago)

was watching that 2008/ConDem program on i-player last night. All the usual suspects popping up including "brave" Gideon who wasn't scared of making tough decisions. And Clegg assuring us he fought tooth and nail against austerity yada yada. But they did give some space to Corbz and McD, something that never would have happened if they were still leading the opposition.

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 10:48 (four years ago)

State of this

50 years ago, the horror of Bloody Sunday unfolded in Derry.

The victims left behind families and a community that grieved their loss and struggled for decades to have the truth told about what happened.

I send them my deepest respects on this poignant and significant day.

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) January 30, 2022

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:01 (four years ago)

mealy mouthed cowardly little snivelling shit! the contrast with Corbyn couldn't be starker

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:04 (four years ago)

what can you say? the man just loves to prosecute

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:04 (four years ago)

Was fully expecting him to say Londonderry instead of Derry tbh.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:17 (four years ago)

i've got 1 Extra on this morning and the cunts just used the L word on their news bit

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:18 (four years ago)

Trevor Nelson is killing it tho so all forgiven

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:19 (four years ago)

The BBC have been using it in all their coverage, afaict.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:19 (four years ago)

i assume it's their standard, Brit cunts

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 11:22 (four years ago)

i'm not entirely a stan for anthony barnett or tom nairn and this is *very* long (11k words and tbh i've only skimmed them so far) but it's worth looking at i think:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/scottish-independence-tom-nairn-gordon-brown/

mark s, Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:03 (four years ago)

(has undeclared tho not inadvertent relevance to bloody sunday, admittedly somewhat abstractly: bcz nairn is the primary theorist of the break-up of britain, the unavoidable why if not the practical how)

mark s, Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:07 (four years ago)

chatting shit with horrible gammon friends last night and we agreed - for probably different reasons - that if the Scots want independence then fuck it that's the logical conclusion of nation state thinking

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:17 (four years ago)

Kieth did a good "the only way to decide the future of Scotland is in London" statement the other day

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:20 (four years ago)

a stance that will gain him some low-energy hooting and hollering in the pre-convinced commentariat and afaict exactly zero votes anywhere

mark s, Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:25 (four years ago)

well yeah quite

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:26 (four years ago)

also apparently lots of Scottish lorry drivers are Rangers cunts i mean i'm not that surprised

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:27 (four years ago)

The vast majority of whom would have voted Labour in the past and are now voting Tory. Labour hasn't got any more votes to lose in Scotland anyway.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:34 (four years ago)

and the sooner that reality sinks in the sooner Labour can oh god what's the point?

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:35 (four years ago)

Trying to be as Unionist as the Tories has been a disaster because sectarian headbanger Unionists have crossed the Rubicon now and out and proud as Tories, they're not coming back and fuck them anyway, while reluctant or soft Unionists are voting SNP.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:37 (four years ago)

(xp) LOL, exactly.

Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:38 (four years ago)

This is Nairn’s theme: “Recognise one’s opponents on the terrain of reality.”

Kieth does this on a daily basis, only problem is his opponents aren't the tories or the UK liberal deep state.

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:44 (four years ago)

not sure Kieth's familiar with the terrain of reality tbh

realty, maybe

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:45 (four years ago)

one reason i'm not entirely a nairn-stan is that i think his *own* version of "one's opponents on the terrain of reality” sweepingly (if unstatedly) includes all manner of ppl we'd be largely pro in this thread?

i mean i also partly like this piece bcz it's an account of a half-century's bitter splits in the new left review's editorial board and one of the characters that nairn split with was his old pal lord perry of that ilk (where ilk = anderson)

mark s, Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:52 (four years ago)

BUT

mark s, Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:52 (four years ago)

i mean tbf "reality" is a weasel word that has to include materialist "thinking" and possibility or fuck it

but

Reader, I buried him (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 30 January 2022 12:53 (four years ago)

In Derry in 1972, people were marching against a system which denied one community access to voting rights, housing and work. It was not “religious bitterness” or “sectarian conflict,” it was Britain’s Jim Crow. You’ll never understand Bloody Sunday unless you understand that.

— Ronan Burtenshaw (@ronanburtenshaw) January 30, 2022

are you reading this Kieth?

calzino, Sunday, 30 January 2022 16:28 (four years ago)

JC's speech on Bloody Sunday in Derry Guildhall. From about 35 minutes on the video.

🐦[Watching @jeremycorbyn🕸 deliver the #BloodySunday50🕸 annual lecture in Derry. Such a lovely welcome & such respect for him in the Guildhall, full of people who have given their lives to the fight for justice & truth. They know. ✊ https://t.co/8fzp7ZawVM🕸
— Ben Sellers (@MrBenSellers) January 29, 2022🕸]🐦

No one else in English politics would be invited to give this or have the knowledge or ability to write it.


I agree with your general point and I felt his anger but honestly I had to dip out after he mangled Pat Finucane’s name. He sounded a bit hoarse, I hope he is l ok. I appreciated that he had planted an oak tree, the biodiversity being important ofc but the main association of oaks with Derry is that the city’s name in Irish, Doire, means oak grove (the Heaney poem he quoted references this too).

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 17:49 (four years ago)

A friend of mine from work refused to vote Labour last time because his dad (an Army officer in charge of lots of NI stuff) was on an IRA kill list, along with the rest of the family, and somehow that was Jembery Crumblin’s fault.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Sunday, 30 January 2022 17:50 (four years ago)

Why’s he a friend of yours? Sounds awful

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 17:51 (four years ago)

iirc official bbc house style is the not-at-all-difficult-for-a-newsreader-to-say “derry/londonderry” for the first mention and then up to the editor’s discretion thereafter

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 30 January 2022 17:54 (four years ago)

Something like 80% of people in Derry call it Derry anyway, the county name has always been “contested”, but given that Derry is the official name in much of the city it’s difficult to conclude it’s not a political choice on their part tbh

mardheamac (gyac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 17:56 (four years ago)

Because I work with a lot of people who didn’t manage to out themselves as melts until then? Also TBF the friend never mentioned his family background until that moment, and it must’ve been terrifying to be on a hit list as a kid. I didn’t think it was a rational position to take as an adult, obviously. Until that moment, I just thought he was an average middle-class person from the West Country.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:01 (four years ago)

it is definitely a political choice i.e. don’t piss off the daily mail, which feels like the guiding principle of a vast preponderance of the bbc estate

xpost

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 30 January 2022 18:04 (four years ago)


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