Redd's Roster of Restaurants of the Old Weird New York

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prune was a little after my time but luckily i got to eat there during one of my v infrequent trips to nyc, just pre-pandemic. incredibly chill, beautiful little restaurant, owners on hand, friendly, great wine.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:26 (two years ago) link

Used to see Jim Carroll at Bendix. The Chelsea one, not the East Village one.

vmajestic, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:28 (two years ago) link

OK, so Betty Brown's Broadway Diner was in the space that became the revived Fiorucci in 2001 (now gone as well).

Given Prune's location and the fact that it opened in 1999 I feel I must have eaten there at some point, but if so nothing about it has stuck in my memory.

Josefa, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link

This NYT article from 1986 (prob paywalled) mentions Betty's Broadway, Florent, and other offbeat downtown eateries:

https://www.nytimes.com/1986/03/06/garden/tapas-tableaux-dining-is-different.html

Josefa, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link


CALL it unconventional, iconoclastic or in some cases bizarre, the downtown style in restaurants is a refreshing change of pace from the starched conventionality of the midtown expense-account temples.

The booming downtown restaurant scene is notable not only for its scope but also for its distinctive style - in design, food presentation and experimental attitude.

Where else, for example, could one eat Spanish tapas, or finger food, in a pastel-splashed dining room with clashing green tablecloths? On one wall at El Internacional (219 West Broadway, between White and Franklin Streets) is a video monitor that shows cartoons and the kitchen crew at work.

When it comes to food presentation, downtown has flair. This can be seen in ambitious establishments such as the Gotham Bar and Grill (12 East 12th Street), where vividly garnished food is set against black plates, as well as at Betty Brown's Broadway Dining (622 Broadway, between Bleecker and Houston Streets), where retrograde munchies such as peanut butter sandwiches are served on Crayola-bright platters. At Indochine, a Cambodian-Vietnamese restaurant at 430 Lafayette Street (between East Fourth Street and Astor Place), exquisite tableaux are created with Oriental ingredients.

Some inspired dining rooms are found in the cavernous former industrial spaces here. Among them are Amazonas, a Brazilian restaurant at 492 Broome Street (West Broadway); the SoHo Kitchen and Bar at 103 Greene Street (near Spring Street), and Bar Lui at 625 Broadway (near Houston Street).

The 1950's diner theme is sizzling hot at the moment, as can be seen in such places as Exterminator Chili at 305 Church Street (near West Broadway) and Restaurant Florent, a bistro at 69 Gansevoort Street (near Washington Street.) Of course what is exotic today is conventional tomorrow. Before long, midtown lawyers may be sitting on diner stools and eating from banana-yellow plates.”

calstars, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:50 (two years ago) link

Yes BETTY BROWN’s
I also remember it as huge. Also kind of a blue interior maybe? And big booths as I recall. Kind of a nocturnal Hawaii surfer decor vibe maybe?

calstars, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:52 (two years ago) link

Also went to Exterminator Chili a bunch of times

calstars, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:52 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Liking the accidental “on”.

Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 06:05 (two years ago) link

Nice
Forgot how easy it was to jump turnstiles

calstars, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 12:57 (two years ago) link

still commonplace
wish my shoulder wasn't so banged up

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 16:25 (two years ago) link

Was wondering what that was coming.

Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 February 2022 22:00 (two years ago) link

I waited a while for someone else to go first. But it had to be done.

Josefa, Wednesday, 9 February 2022 22:08 (two years ago) link

Because you had to be a …

Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 10 February 2022 21:53 (two years ago) link

Not old and not weird but still going to mark the passing of Fika a few years ago: https://ny.eater.com/2019/9/24/20882251/fika-closed-nyc

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 February 2022 15:35 (two years ago) link

The fika on desbrosses st downtown was super chill. Rips

calstars, Thursday, 17 February 2022 16:42 (two years ago) link

Yes, that was the one I always went to.

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 February 2022 17:06 (two years ago) link

Nice area to walk around in and I loved those big windows on the corner to look out.

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 February 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

RIP Angel’s Share and it’s adjacent restaurant, Village Yokocho:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/08/nyregion/tony-yoshida-japan-village-angels-share.html

Helly Watch the R’s (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 April 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link

aargh, its.

Helly Watch the R’s (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 April 2022 15:02 (two years ago) link

Sunrise Mart too.

Helly Watch the R’s (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 April 2022 15:11 (two years ago) link

I wonder if people are feeling nostalgia for the time when nyc was dotted with bustling neo-speakeasies. Perhaps what we need now is a neo revival of those. Dress the mixologists up in fashions of the aughts.

Josefa, Sunday, 10 April 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link

Just saw something about a new one. Think it is the one in the first picture here: https://www.timeout.com/newyork/bars/the-best-speakeasies-in-nyc

Helly Watch the R’s (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 April 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link

We got to-go cocktails now so…

Is Decible bar still around, down the street from there? Has kind of a speakeasy vibe

calstars, Sunday, 10 April 2022 15:27 (two years ago) link

Seems Sake Bar Decibel is still in business. This article is really good: https://punchdrink.com/articles/quiet-defiance-of-decibel-sake-bar-nyc/

Helly Watch the R’s (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 April 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link

Then I saw another article in there about the original Terroir in the East Village. I only ever have gone to Terroir Tribeca on Harrison Street.

Helly Watch the R’s (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 April 2022 15:42 (two years ago) link

Damn so many tipsy meals with friends and loves at Village Yokocho and Angels Share. RIP

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:27 (two years ago) link

I didn't go that often but figured somebody here must have.

Helly Watch the R’s (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link

oh my god i haven't even thought about decibel in a decade. i have to go back

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link

Did you ever go there when it was Candy B1?

Helly Watch the R’s (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 April 2022 18:45 (two years ago) link

i remember liking decibel.

RIP Angel’s Share but really it’s the kind of place too perfect to exist for this long. I’d even be afraid to go back, for fear it wouldn’t live up to my memory of it. a japanese bartender in a waistcoat quietly muddling a cocktail with a long-handled spoon, snow falling outside the window, and the candle on your table lighting up your face from below as the large block of ice in your whiskey settles a little deeper into the glass.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 04:01 (two years ago) link

Are you James Salter, Tracer Hand?

Anita Quatloos (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 10:29 (two years ago) link

j/k of course

Anita Quatloos (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 10:31 (two years ago) link

Somehow I missed ever going to angels share. Sounds like a very cool place!

calstars, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 11:52 (two years ago) link

It was kind of a place to go for a while there.

Anita Quatloos (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 12:21 (two years ago) link

"I believe I may have seen one ilxor with a screenname that is NSFW to Google play there with his band once."

James Redd, this post from six years ago appears to refer to me, and I think you are referencing my band's second residency at the Continental, occurring after our four year run at Arlene Grocery. If you know my name IRL and use suckass FB, please make yourself known to me as such!

and no one has mentioned Ole Devil Moon on 12th St!

veronica moser, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 13:33 (two years ago) link

johnny cakes

dan selzer, Tuesday, 12 April 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link

xpost loved their breakfasts

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 12 April 2022 14:43 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Seems like even though the East Village Sunrise Mart is kaput, there are still three other open locations. Walked by the midtown one the other day on the way to the Stavros Niarchos Foundation Library (SNFL).

Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 April 2022 15:17 (two years ago) link

El Quijote at the Hotel Chelsea has reopened, but with a vastly different, much smaller menu. No lobster!

Josefa, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link

huh

have you been? does it seem like it's the same place apart from that? tbf the menu before was biblical in size

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link

Have not been, but evidently the two dining rooms that used to be in the rear - the Cervantes Room and the Dulcinea Room - are no longer part of the restaurant. So it’s been reduced to the front area where the booths are, plus the bar. They’re now giving the menu a bit of Basque flavor, and it seems as if the dishes are smaller.

Josefa, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 22:43 (two years ago) link

Wait I just read a NY Times review that says they do have lobster, but in a different preparation (I didn’t see that on their online menu). The linoleum checkerboard floor is gone but not sure what the new floor is. It’s a favorable review that is rather critical of the old, weird incarnation.

Josefa, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 23:10 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

Good news! I hope they find somewhere permanent.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 2 June 2022 12:41 (two years ago) link

Not a restaurant, but I was pleased to find that the bathrooms in Tompkins are still as disgusting as when I was a teen, and that people are still naked and smoking crack in them, too. I thought that kind of thing had died, but no! Bless New York City’s indomitable spirit

we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 June 2022 15:57 (two years ago) link

I ate at the new El Quijote, which was good, but it’s good in the way that many wannabe-authentic Spanish restaurants across the city are good. There are a bunch of places like this but there was only one classic El Quijote. I do approve of some of the renovations they’ve done, such as stripping the old drop ceiling back to the original 19th Century ceiling… it looks its age but it’s cool. Supposedly the floor tiles are original as well. There’s a review of the place in the latest New Yorker where I feel the reviewer pulled her punches a little but the telling part was mentioning that their sangria now only comes by the pitcher at the price of $54, which no modern day Patti Smith or Robert Mapplethorpe could possibly afford.

Josefa, Saturday, 4 June 2022 21:49 (two years ago) link


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