Outside Cats - is it a sin?

FTR I am well aware that when I open a can of cat food for my inside cat, what he's getting is bits of birds and fish who were once alive. Further, I know that I regularly nom on animals. That doesn't mean that letting my cats loose inside the Small Mammal House at the zoo would be okay. There are differences in degree and in kind at play here.

Now it makes sense why they asked me to leave that zoo

I have an indoor cat and I am vegetarian, hmu if you want me to post an opinion itt

If god had wanted cats indoors hed have made them with little houses already around them imo

The diversion into the morality of veganism in animals is already a strong contender for 2022 best ofs

right like church mice and barn owls

precisely

opine, rob, opine!!! and post pic of catkin?

Ya Kid K is back again
Outside cats, is it a sin?

human habits can foster an oversize population of one animal or another. sometimes we hunt them to prevent a disruption. I guess we don't generally shoot cats with rifles like deer, but we do catch and kill them. keeping your cat inside so it doesn't heathcliff the hood seems a reasonable and compassionate request that has nothing to do with veganism in animals.

All cats guilty until proven innocent does not sound a progressive starting position to me tbh

^^this is the case. Each cat has a different level of aggression, different responses to the world around them. I respect all of the arguments brought against inside cats (danger of their death, effect on the environment around them), and I think about these things before deciding to allow my cats outside and only allow them out because in my context I don't see these effects really happening. Obviously I could be blind to the mass destruction they are performing or the death-hound and band of coyotes that secretly live at my neighbours and the 11:30pm traffic rush on my dead-end cul-de-sac that I have never noticed, but hey you gotta roll with the cards you've got and I think the happiness and quality of life they are getting because of their outside privileges is worth it.

Besides, they spend 90% of the day asleep on my bed anyways, lazy bastards.

case in point

https://imgur.com/610YcKr

test post, I think this is how you post images.

https://i.imgur.com/610YcKr.jpeg

opine, rob, opine!!! and post pic of catkin?

― cat? (cat), Monday, January 3, 2022 7:25 PM (thirty-four minutes ago)

opinion: people should eat less meat!

pic:

https://imgur.com/myqe2jx

ah right I did the thing too

https://i.imgur.com/myqe2jx.jpg

The diversion into the morality of veganism in animals

this was such a badly wrought provocation that you should consider turning in your provocateur's license, deems

What if i agreed to go through an agent

those are both really great pictures

wait did i post mine wrong, did my 3 excellent portraits not show up, should i post them again

many fine cats itt

xps - said agent would simply deliver similarly dismal results at one remove

this is important, it’s worth the risk of double posting:

consume veggie

https://i.imgur.com/fLKLLwx.jpg

love music

https://i.imgur.com/986xDef.jpg

https://softerdrive.bandcamp.com/releases

I like your smudgy puff

i like her too!!!!!!! very very much!!!!!!!!!!!

https://i.imgur.com/FmJ94bF.jpg

♥️ ♥️

Yowzah!

Everyone get in here and post photos of your cats!

Gus before an arvo beer

https://i.imgur.com/tymdLT0.jpg

Gus after an arvo beer

https://i.imgur.com/F3YJvV1.jpg

lol

https://i.imgur.com/Z5hJm9b.jpg?1

bones is goin outside over my dead body

would snorgle all this kitties by golly

bones looks very proper

these cats look nice enough, but their looks belie a bird murdering rage

We had one cat who wanted to be an outside cat so desperately. In order to enter the house, you would have to open the door a crack and stick your foot through it to shoo him away and interrupt his escape plans. His escapes were successful a few times. Once, he fell out of a tall tree and ended up with some serious bruising. I tried harness training him, but he never enjoyed it.

The three cats we have now show little interest in going outside, even though two of them were literal strays we rescued from an abandoned house in our neighborhood. They have spent hours trying to get at our parakeets though and once successfully caught one. That bird survives until this day, despite having been plucked from the literal jaws of death. I've bought them feather-chasing toys such as Da Bird and Mystery Motion. Those help a lot with exercising their hunting instincts.

Murder on their minds:
https://i.imgur.com/5QZvGMl.jpg

My girl Connie, who I relate to a lot:
https://i.imgur.com/RzTRgo6.jpg

Here's the two weird ways Oscar has been sleeping lately:

https://i.imgur.com/BTlWHyi.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Afv6j0F.jpg

Hmm. Reminds me of someone I know. Nice.

love that this has turned into WDY(cat)LL. my handsome boy Chauncey, contemplating the horrible 'outdoors' with disgust and loathing. if he ever encountered a bird face to face, the bird would surely murder him without trouble.

http://i.imgur.com/4OfV8t7.jpg

Also, I'm currently reading the Warriors book series with my daughter. They're chapter books for kids about clans of feral cats who live in the woods and hunt the hell out of birds (in between murdering each other and lots of other general drama). As far as I've read, they have discussed food scarcity issues rising from human encroachments on the environment, but not the depletion of bird populations caused by cats themselves. However, I have some serious catching up to do. Maybe this will be covered in a more recent book.

Chauncey is a dapper man.

I had to give up on those Warrior books due to murdering of helpless kittens by rival clans ;_;

Warriors, stay in and play

Those are the "kittypets" which must always be said with a vicious sneer.

Yeah, it's definitely a brutal series. It's got my kid into reading again though, which she was veering away from for a while.

Always a good thing! I started 2021 with it (due to ILXor sunny successor) after a 2020 of not being able to read much, so it got me kick-started as well.

On a selfish level, if everyone kept their cats inside, then I wouldn't get to make friends with the cats in my neighbourhood.

We walk our dogs around the block at bedtime, and before our cats got too old and housebound, they used to come with us. It was great. Sometimes, if I was bringing the dogs to the green at the bottom of the road for a little run around in the day, our tom cat Linus would come with us and hang about getting pets from the local kids. He loved to socialize with people. I never liked him being out without me, though. I had to scare the shit out of some kids one day who threw a stone at him when he was chilling in the front garden, minding his own business. I happened to be standing right beside the front door and ran out and ROARED at them. They never came near my house again. I'm lucky they didn't hit him, because if they had I might have really lost my shit at them and then I would've got in trouble.

Great photos of Oscar. Give that meaty boy a big ol’ pat from his biggest internet fan, H.P

Great photos of Oscar. Give that meaty boy a big ol’ pat from his biggest internet fan, H.P

Great photos of Oscar. Give that meaty boy a big ol’ pat from his biggest internet fan, H.P

Willie Wildman, Cali from accounting, Cherry the Arkansas Redcat, Security Chief Leon, and Miss Pamela of the GTOs at their least murderous:
https://imgur.com/a/OyTu1xV

And the CEO's grandson, Squit (who was declawed by a previous owner before being abandoned on a freeway onramp in Florida):
https://imgur.com/Cc3kCvl

good job ILX! keep the cat pics coming! <3

That's a hell of a band pic, Jaq!

awesome! not sure how anyone could get a picture like that