i like to think it’s just in the blood somehow but he’s not exactly a natural at it is he
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 2 January 2022 23:49 (two years ago) link
yeah he’s very hard to read, it seems like he’s bro-ing down with the hoi polloi and breaking with his dad and then all of a sudden he’s back on team marco. i dunno
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 2 January 2022 23:51 (two years ago) link
I tend to think that he's overcompensating with the hoi polloi/ in public so that his discomfort and anger and patricidal urges aren't picked up on so keenly, tbh.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Monday, 3 January 2022 01:19 (two years ago) link
I feel like he's the pure version of what his dad pretends to be
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 January 2022 01:24 (two years ago) link
Seems like they are setting up a moment where Filip makes a critical decision that is either pro-Marco or pro-Naomi. And trying to keep it reasonably uncertain which way he will go.
― that's not my post, Monday, 3 January 2022 05:31 (two years ago) link
Glad they spent time on Holden’s decision to deactivate the torpedo rather than pretend it wasn't controversial. It was almost like the they read the ILX discussion lol.
― that's not my post, Monday, 3 January 2022 05:35 (two years ago) link
totally
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 January 2022 09:32 (two years ago) link
i suspect you’re right about the moment of choice for filip
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 January 2022 09:33 (two years ago) link
yes, seems so - thanks for all your reads on filip, confirms what I suspected. I've taken more of an interest in his arc this season, think I got a bit fatigued with the naomi/filip stuff last season
― salsa shark, Monday, 3 January 2022 12:01 (two years ago) link
just thinking that by this point everybody on the roci has made traitorous decisions apart from amos
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 January 2022 13:04 (two years ago) link
this is now how many times Marco could have been easily killed and someone hesitated due to guilt (either over killing Marco himself or killing Filip or killing Marco in front of Filip or......etc etc)?
if anything this proves the scrupulous aren't meant for war.
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 January 2022 16:31 (two years ago) link
coulda saved a billion people
Marco is such a piece of shit it's hard to choose which character most deserves the honor of killing him. It's probably gotta be Naomi, but I think I'd like to see Bobbie or Drummer literally skin him alive.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 3 January 2022 16:49 (two years ago) link
if they do things how they did in the books, I’m really going to enjoy reading this thread after the resolution of both the marco and filip situations!
― mh, Monday, 3 January 2022 19:57 (two years ago) link
do they open a Bed and Breakfast on Ceres
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 3 January 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link
no spoilers, Neanderthal!
― mh, Monday, 3 January 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link
filip’s an interesting character in that, if he had his heart in it, he’d probably be a more charismatic leader than his father, as mentioned above
the underlying question when thinking about the motivations of the belters following marco is whether their cause is about justice, or if it’s more about rage and spite. marco’s fundamentally incapable of making it to his own end goal, imo, because while he’s charismatic he’s going to do the most spiteful thing every time regardless of whether it makes sense in the end.
he’s holden’s diametric opposite. holden has amos and company checking him and asking why he’s disarming torpedos, but marco’s not going to get that from filip because his kid’s still sorting out his own feelings and stance. the person who has the same basic interests (well-being of the belters, etc) as marco who is getting closest to putting him in check is drummer
― mh, Monday, 3 January 2022 20:10 (two years ago) link
rewatching s5 w/o rereading the thread to reacquaint myself, blindsided by alex still being a character, feels like he was taken out of the story like five or six years ago but time has no meaning any more
― mark s, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 19:32 (two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, January 3, 2022 5:04 AM (yesterday)
Amos did break out Clarissa Mao from jail and bring her aboard the ship ... besides being a total sociopath
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link
Due to his extreme left-wing belief in rehabilitation!
Ok maybe not
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 00:34 (two years ago) link
"you know that chick who tried to kill you? .... yeah, I decided to make her a crewmember."
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 00:38 (two years ago) link
yeah i was debating that in my head but you’re right it definitely counts!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 00:50 (two years ago) link
Did she try to kill you? Yes. Did she kill 5000 people? Also yes.
But we bonded, okay?
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 01:00 (two years ago) link
I love Holden tbh. Though Naomi is my hero
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 04:13 (two years ago) link
Naomi is awesome and i hope they give her more to do in the final episodes.
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 05:14 (two years ago) link
Amos's moral code is pretty much "what's done is done, but if you're not an active threat I'll listen to you and examine your motivations and maybe you can be redeemed"
if you're pointing a gun at his head and are going to fire, kill you with no hesitation
― mh, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link
"I AM CAMINA DRUMMER"
― mark s, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link
from my least to my most favorite character!! space is a journy
― goole, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 22:54 (two years ago) link
hello goole!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 23:10 (two years ago) link
Amos, Drummer and Bobbie, impossible to pick a fave
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 5 January 2022 23:12 (two years ago) link
Drummer has very much become my favorite.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 7 January 2022 15:31 (two years ago) link
don't know what it was like in the books but clearly feels like a case of "let's center the show and drama around the fan-favorite"
― dan selzer, Friday, 7 January 2022 15:39 (two years ago) link
considering Drummer is a composite character ...
― sarahell, Friday, 7 January 2022 17:16 (two years ago) link
in the books there are at least two characters that the TV Drummer's storyline is derived from
― sarahell, Friday, 7 January 2022 17:17 (two years ago) link
I mean tbh the less time spent on Holden and Naomi the better.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Friday, 7 January 2022 17:28 (two years ago) link
This was part of the "trivia" in the sidebar during this week's episode: they mentioned that book-Drummer and book-Michio were kind of combined to create TV-Drummer, which I guess means TV-Michio is made up from whole cloth?
Was not expecting the stupid little girl in the opening sequences to go full Pet Sematary with her little brother. That storyline is still worthless IMO, though.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 7 January 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link
It’s extremely important for the final 3 books, not sure how it will work for the about-to-end show.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 7 January 2022 23:00 (two years ago) link
ya, i have no idea the point of the story line. was there some relevance shown earlier that i missed?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 8 January 2022 00:20 (two years ago) link
Did they deepfake younger Steven Strait in the bonus thingy, or is he just younger looking without the beard?
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 8 January 2022 05:46 (two years ago) link
yeah he looked v weird & filterythat was a fkn great episode! no idea how the hell they tie this bow in one episode unless its just ends in total carnage it is an outrage that this series is not infinite
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 January 2022 07:11 (two years ago) link
I presume it ends in one big battle with Marco's people getting fucked up by the ring using Naomi's overload deal somehow. Wait until they're about to enter the ring and overload it with a mass of torpedos.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 8 January 2022 07:44 (two years ago) link
haven’t watched last night’s yet but anybody got a link to the “extras” from prime? the usual places don’t seem to have it…
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 8 January 2022 10:58 (two years ago) link
N Z B p l a n e t has them if you’re set up for usenet.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 8 January 2022 13:18 (two years ago) link
Been searching for the extra/x-rays myself
in course of that started checking out wes chatham's post-show broadcasts and the latest one is with shoreh and cara gee – so amos, drummer, & chrissie – my 3 faves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkDGL0o7gvg
also found an older clip where wes and ty franck talk about cara gee just smashing all her scenes and that being the reason she got a much larger role, that they just enjoyed writing for her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuqMQS3oXl8
cant believe show over next week, but been a very tight/great season so far with exception of lacona subplot which only seem sto be there for possibility of eventual spinoff/sequal (watch me be proved wrong next week when they wrap it in somehow)
― H in Addis, Saturday, 8 January 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link
cannot believe its over next weel. wtf.
― we need outrage! we need dicks!! (the table is the table), Saturday, 8 January 2022 21:01 (two years ago) link
Can't handle Cara Gee not sounding like Drummer.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 8 January 2022 21:10 (two years ago) link
the scene at the end with Drummer and Naomi, and the scene with Drummer and Avasarala were fucking ace.
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 January 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link
can't handle Cara Gee *smiling* lol. the dead-eyed Drummer stare is permanently etched into my mind
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 January 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
want Marco Inaros's head floating in space like a soccer ball
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Saturday, 8 January 2022 21:33 (two years ago) link
the scene w Bobbi & Amos at the bar w the glitter etc was A+
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 January 2022 21:54 (two years ago) link