"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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A tactical vote for the opposition against another opposition!

the fifth housemate (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:04 (four years ago)

if there is no option to vote for transformative politics the only other option is to vote for lols

calzino, Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:09 (four years ago)

at least I should have said it's another option, not voting is the other one!

calzino, Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:10 (four years ago)

The prospect of panicky scared shitless spineless Tory MPs turning on Boris is the only reason to vote Lib Dem - I wouldn't do it myself, of course. The Tories will win it back easily at the next election anyway.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:13 (four years ago)

I wouldn't vote Lib Dem that is!

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:14 (four years ago)

i would simply write crude unhelpful abuse across my paper

let's make lunch and listen to five finger death punch (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:25 (four years ago)

"a buttery flavour with hints of burnt caramel, nuttiness and tangy blue"

this is Shropshire Blue, the early indications are Kieth is a going down more like a Kraft slice with the voters who tbf gave Corbyn two 2nd place results just as comparably respectable as what Blair achieved, but with a manifesto that was worth voting for.

calzino, Thursday, 16 December 2021 20:43 (four years ago)

why would you tell people nightclubs are going to close with 11 days notice. are you completely off your fucking noodle. https://t.co/sVzoQJSVNL

— π”π”žπ”€π”«π”’π”±π”° 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) December 16, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 December 2021 22:50 (four years ago)

Because it's "Save Christmas"

Mark G, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:07 (four years ago)

Save Xmas, destroy new year.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:28 (four years ago)

Quite

Mark G, Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:36 (four years ago)

Robbing nicholas to pay stephen

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 December 2021 23:40 (four years ago)

awooga! https://t.co/TO6zFUIseY

— π”π”žπ”€π”«π”’π”±π”° 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) December 17, 2021

koogs, Friday, 17 December 2021 04:39 (four years ago)

Labour Party Results in North Shropshire Constituency:

2010 (Gordon Brown) - 18.1%
2015 (Ed Miliband) - 19.9%
2017 (Jeremy Corbyn) - 31.1%
2019 (Jeremy Corbyn) - 22.1%
2021 (Keir Starmer) - 9.6%

— Evolve Politics (@evolvepolitics) December 17, 2021

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 17 December 2021 07:34 (four years ago)

Kieth's at the wheel

let's make lunch and listen to five finger death punch (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 December 2021 08:00 (four years ago)

I don’t think we can really judge that considering there will be a lot of votes lent to the Lib Dem candidate. Considering they were always a very distant third.

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 17 December 2021 08:13 (four years ago)

Full steam ahead.

https://www.tvcream.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/71-03.jpg

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Friday, 17 December 2021 08:22 (four years ago)

was always going to be tough for labour with little recent opportunity to challenge boris and the relentless media overexposure of the libdems

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 17 December 2021 08:30 (four years ago)

loool! go get 'em Kieth!

calzino, Friday, 17 December 2021 08:33 (four years ago)

mofo is playing 4d tiddlywinks here

calzino, Friday, 17 December 2021 08:37 (four years ago)

Snapshot of byelection performance by Starmer's Labour:

Hartlepool: lost to the Tories.
Chesham and Amersham: lost their deposit.
Batley and Spen: kept by a paltry 323 votes.
Old Bexley and Sidcup: worst Labour vote since 1983.
North Shropshire: 20+ points behind 2017 result.

calzino, Friday, 17 December 2021 08:39 (four years ago)

Just catching up on this by-election discourse and there is surely no way the Lib Dems are taking this seat.

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 16 December 2021 09:37 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

A few weeks ago, Big Brother contestant Emily Parr proclaimed, hilariously: 'There's a new music taking over this country and it's called indie.'

imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 08:55 (four years ago)

was watching the betfair market on this last night and there was still late money going on the Tories, a four figure majority for the LibDems didn't seem like a likely outcome.

calzino, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:00 (four years ago)

A few weeks ago, Big Brother contestant Emily Parr proclaimed, hilariously: 'There's a new music taking over this country and it's called indie.'

― imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Lol. You really are pathetic to be celebrating this.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:09 (four years ago)

you can aftertime quote me saying that the 11/8 for the piss diamonds was ridiculous as well if you want imago. Not sure what it would prove other than nobody can be certain about byelection results!

calzino, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:09 (four years ago)

Not celebrating, just observing. Let's not forget how the Ms Parr story ended...

imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:13 (four years ago)

(but cmon, a complete shellacking for the Tories in a formerly safe seat? that's celebration-worthy. a little. unless it's in favour of Reform or w/e)

imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:14 (four years ago)

Fuck off, imago

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 17 December 2021 09:15 (four years ago)

LDs have a strong by election game. The result is this plus voters staying home, think the switching (if any) is confined to maybe some Labour voters voting LD. Reading ConHome and they are fuming and want Boris gone now, but there doesn’t seem to be an obvious successor.

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 17 December 2021 09:17 (four years ago)

I'm not celebrating (except I am)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:17 (four years ago)

Would a Labour gain have been a better outcome? Surely this is a defeat for Johnson AND Starmer, which makes it champagne o'clock on here

There's evidence ON THIS THREAD of former Tory voters switching LD, btw

imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:20 (four years ago)

Fuck off

Ultimately voters are safe that they can carry the way they want as no change is offered whether they vote Tory, Lab or Lib Dem at the next election. Excuse me for not celebrating these turds.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:22 (four years ago)

"There's evidence ON THIS THREAD of former Tory voters switching LD, btw"

Is that you?

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:23 (four years ago)

LOL

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Friday, 17 December 2021 09:24 (four years ago)

That 31% for Corbyn is still pretty 0_o.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Friday, 17 December 2021 09:24 (four years ago)

It was Dan Worsley, whose post was far too informed to have any bearing on the present conversation, clearly

imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:26 (four years ago)

"There's evidence ON THIS THREAD of former Tory voters switching LD, btw"

Is that you?


lol

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 17 December 2021 09:32 (four years ago)

an all-time zingaroony, that 'un

imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:37 (four years ago)

the only thing I'm celebrating is another abject failure of Starmerism, a very bleak and hopeless duopoly of centre-right scumbag parties for the foreseeable future is not something to celebrate. Although I will personally celebrate Kieth's obituary for being the cunt that has enabled this, even though there is 100% certainty his successor will be worse.

calzino, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:50 (four years ago)

there's a >0% chance his successor will be a Whittome figure, although given how many of us have quit and torn up our cards...

imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:52 (four years ago)

(me too, before anyone says anything)

imago, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:53 (four years ago)

"there's a >0% chance his successor will be a Whittome figure"

The kind of conversation I come here for.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:56 (four years ago)

That 31% for Corbyn is still pretty 0_o.

― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Friday, 17 December 2021 bookmarkflaglink

tfw you actually have a serious offer on the table.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:57 (four years ago)

it's Kieth's NEC voting threshold changes that will keep left-wing candidates off the leadership ballot forevermore, not members tearing their cards up.

calzino, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:58 (four years ago)

Corbyn's record in a Tory stronghold standing up with '97 Blair's shocker!

calzino, Friday, 17 December 2021 09:59 (four years ago)

genuinely surprised at the result, which apart from anything else seems to kill Brexit as a polarising issue.

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) December 17, 2021

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 December 2021 10:11 (four years ago)

more important (re)tweet and thread a bit further down jamie k's account:

New suspect in the case of the Palme murders, sent an envelope with two bullets matching the murder weapon to frmr Finance Minister Feldt and was apparently on a crusade against road salt

— yakov pettersson (@YakovPettersson) December 16, 2021

mark s, Friday, 17 December 2021 10:28 (four years ago)

hullo all i have now got so good at sleeping thru noisy elections that i overslept entirely, in conclusion

i: this is above all a potholes (and salt) result, which LDs can often bring the juice for in the west like that doctor who went indie (in herefordshire?) or martin bell in derbyshire (also oswestry is a kind of cornwall)
ii: i forgot to mention in my intervention against the open democracy piece that north shropshire is where the glaciers ground to a halt, it is full of moraines and kettleholes and the like, that's its political tradition

hope this helps where's my coffee

mark s, Friday, 17 December 2021 10:31 (four years ago)

> north shropshire is where the glaciers ground to a halt

growing up in tewkesbury we were told they stopped just a few miles north of there (ie some distance south of NShrop)

maybe this is something all geography teachers tell their pupils.

koogs, Friday, 17 December 2021 10:44 (four years ago)

important glacier news from internet user gibble's globe:
https://gibblesglobe.com/2019/05/07/quaternary-shropshire/

mark s, Friday, 17 December 2021 10:51 (four years ago)


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