"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Conservative MP Nick Fletcher says Doctor Who being played by a woman has pushed young men into crime.

do what?

calzino, Thursday, 25 November 2021 16:58 (four years ago)

Wasn't a previous recipient Jacob himself?

That's much sadder...

Mark G, Thursday, 25 November 2021 17:04 (four years ago)

It'll be interesting to perceive how the Amazon blockade is interpreted by Joe Public; whether they'll see it as good, targeted direct action towards a much-deserving plague on society, or more Insulate Britain bollocks. An acid test of sorts as to whether the efforts to discredit direct action have been successful

imago, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:03 (four years ago)

"I've met the man in the street, and he's a cunt"

who's afraid of adrian woolfe? (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 26 November 2021 09:12 (four years ago)

Right, stop ventriloquising the opinions of normal people, just tell us what you think.

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 26 November 2021 09:12 (four years ago)

I think it's the former, obviously, but I'm worried that perceptions have been damaged. I strongly disagreed with the methods Insulate Britain employed and considered them an own-goal.

imago, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:14 (four years ago)

(they should have directly targeted construction companies)

imago, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:15 (four years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFHoYj-XIAkyT6M?format=jpg&name=large

lol, it's a pity he didn't get a taste for this when he was leader.

calzino, Friday, 26 November 2021 12:37 (four years ago)

I would like, under threat of legal action, to withdraw my previous tweet incorrectly describing Jeremy Corbyn as "litigious"

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 26 November 2021 12:47 (four years ago)

I previously made a tweet that gave the false impression that Corbz totally fcking murked me up, that was incorrect and meh wasn't even a gentle tap!

calzino, Friday, 26 November 2021 12:56 (four years ago)

Just got home after first inperson NEC meeting at Southside.

A good meeting overall

👀👀
BIG NEWS includes -

We were told to expect a visit by FORDE AND HIS REPORT at January's NEC

Report back thread from meeting to follow tomorrow.

— Mish Rahman (@mish_rahman) November 25, 2021

mardheamac (gyac), Friday, 26 November 2021 15:36 (four years ago)

they will keep moving on the Forde Report release date until it's the right time, it's almost like they are waiting for the queen to die (again).

calzino, Friday, 26 November 2021 17:21 (four years ago)

Great car for families on a budget, the Ford Report

who's afraid of adrian woolfe? (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 27 November 2021 13:37 (four years ago)

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nintchdbpict0003335783521-e1498150005991.jpg

The Frodo Report

calzino, Saturday, 27 November 2021 14:48 (four years ago)

Imagine being stuck in a room with these people pic.twitter.com/mOtKayhx1P

— black lives matter (@jrc1921) November 28, 2021

tbh this is how most podcasts look to me, even most of the left-wing ones!

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 08:14 (four years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFWBxMTWQAY7Xsx?format=jpg&name=900x900

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 08:18 (four years ago)

lolll they're close to being a good send-up of a leftie podcast

imago, Monday, 29 November 2021 08:44 (four years ago)

Crikey, that is bad.

Who is the bloke in jacket and tie?

This pictured laughing host person is appalling.

Helen Lewis thinks that they don't drink coffee in Detroit.

I can understand that lots of conversations are lame. But don't clip the lamest bits and use them for your advert!

the pinefox, Monday, 29 November 2021 08:57 (four years ago)

lolll they're close to being a good send-up of a leftie podcast

― imago, Monday, 29 November 2021 08:44 (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the guy laughing directly into the camera almost looks like some Limmy type comedian has edited clips of themselves into a pre-existing video, very disturbing

soref, Monday, 29 November 2021 09:02 (four years ago)

that loose sort of gang of pals laughing at each others/their own jokes format, really gets my hackles up. Right lads going to start putting on a stopwatch to time how much long you spend laughing at yr own lines here!

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 09:05 (four years ago)

HL thinks coffee is m/c

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 09:08 (four years ago)

not sure who the older guy is, but he looks familiar

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 09:10 (four years ago)

Lewis was educated at the independent St Mary's School, Worcester and then read English at St Peter's College, Oxford.


Honestly think her sneering about the back streets of Detroit (like she would ever set foot in such a place) is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen in my life.

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 09:15 (four years ago)

The Beatles is like Keith Starmer's Labour.

It’s now the fifth day of Getbackmas and Twitter is still full of Beatle boggling. Just like they did in the 60s, The Beatles have pushed the cynics, antagonists and cranks to the margins. As the old guy in the vox pop during the rooftop gig says, they make everything better.

— Pete Paphides (@petepaphides) November 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 09:26 (four years ago)

the bloke in jacket and tie
the older guy

john lloyd? 🙈

conrad, Monday, 29 November 2021 09:53 (four years ago)

I’m sure HL is animated by having attended a very minor public school that absolutely nobody she aspired to befriend at Oxford had ever heard of.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 29 November 2021 10:07 (four years ago)

Friend of Angela Rayner says: “Trying to sack Angela and make her the scapegoat for Hartlepool was stupid. But doing a reshuffle when she’s literally on her feet giving a speech attacking the Tories for being corrupt is just plain offensive.”

it's all kicking off again

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:19 (four years ago)

Has Helen Lewis ever watched a US cop show, gangster film, film about poor working-class people living in a trailer park, sitcom where people go to a diner, or the like?

They all drink coffee.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:21 (four years ago)

xp just came here to post this, looking forward to how bad it’s going to be

I'm hearing that Labour's shadow cabinet reshuffle has started

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) November 29, 2021

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 11:23 (four years ago)

Really fucked up.

"Selling off your government-funded vaccine factory during a pandemic" has a something of the war profiteer vibe about it, hasn't it?https://t.co/CDvgzVeZoI

— James Meadway (@meadwaj) November 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 (four years ago)

“vmic” indeed

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 11:29 (four years ago)

(this includes us btw)

pic.twitter.com/pXosscs2Q2

— No Context Brits (@NoContextBrits) November 29, 2021

mark s, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:31 (four years ago)

It’s been an honour to serve on the Labour front bench since 2015 but I’m looking forward to spending even more time at home here in Lancashire and standing up for my constituents. pic.twitter.com/8pybEql5WB

— Cat Smith MP (@CatSmithMP) November 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 12:12 (four years ago)

Two council seats lost to the Tories. Notice the Green surge.

https://www.politics.co.uk/news-in-brief/labour-lose-2-seats-in-midlands-local-council-elections/

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 12:13 (four years ago)

Labour source says Nick Thomas-Symonds out as Shadow Home Sec, Emily Thornberry in.

— Ava-Santina (@AvaSantina) November 29, 2021



huh

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 13:56 (four years ago)

Helen and Dorian regretfully agreeing that pointing out the Spectator is a nazi-platforming rag is like being a "racism hipster"

Agreed. I know this kind of oh-so weary Twitter response is tempting, but it's a mistake - like being a racism hipster. *You* might find this unsurprising, but most people don't know much about media brands or the French elections and this is useful information for them.

— Helen Lewis (@helenlewis) November 29, 2021

Piedie Gimbel, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:03 (four years ago)

and for completeness:

My problem with this reaction is it implies that there are no lines and no difference between soft-soaping a fascist and anything else they publish. There has to be some sense of a spectrum otherwise there's no room for a backlash to a piece like this.

— Dorian Lynskey (@Dorianlynskey) November 29, 2021

After struggling to parse this i think what DL is saying is that by writing for the Spectator he's helping provide a 'spectrum' of opinion from which a credible critique can be launched against the fash parts

Which I guess is a bit like bringing down the Nazis by joining the Nazi party

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:28 (four years ago)

Providing cover for the rest of the content and uncomfortable with his role being pointed out

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:33 (four years ago)

The thing is, there is almost no difference between soft-soaping a fascist and everything else the Spectator publishes - it's all of a piece.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:38 (four years ago)

if he had the moral courage to put his hands up and cop to taking money from a fascist rag because he's not very choosy where his paycheques come from rather coming out with such convoluted bullshit, he'd still be a despicable bald fool.

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:42 (four years ago)

"racism hipster"!

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:45 (four years ago)

What gyac surely the Spectator's consistent fascism just gives its Surrey readership a socially acceptable excuse to give into the irresistible lure of thinkpieces about U-God and Moby

Tracer Hand, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:45 (four years ago)

Theory: Lynskey's been decomposing for months, the brain worms now free to just slither directly over his keyboard as required

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:55 (four years ago)

The thing is, he could easily get the £75 for a thinkpiece that the Spec pays anywhere else in the media.

Sometimes the banal reason for writing for somewhere more conservative is that the friendly editor at the paper you’d happily pitch to gets poached by a less liberal media company, and freelancers tend to want to maintain relations with friendly editors. Or, you’re basically a total melt.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:55 (four years ago)

https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1465334017000189958

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:57 (four years ago)

even better!

http://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1465334017000189958

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:57 (four years ago)

meh

please, let's not all pile onto The Racism Factory just for publishing another fascist. this only happens occasionally, and i know their editors, they're good people. for instance, they happily commission any banal cultural commentary i pitch and always invite me to their parties

— Stan Account (@tristandross) November 29, 2021

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 29 November 2021 14:58 (four years ago)

“Useful idiot running interference in his free time for the far-right rag that sometimes pays him” exists on a spectrum with “all the fash content said organ publishes on the reg” and I think we shouldn’t lose sight of that

Nu-panique schnizzle (wins), Monday, 29 November 2021 15:28 (four years ago)

New phone, who dis?

— Cat Smith MP (@CatSmithMP) November 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 November 2021 15:40 (four years ago)

Love that

mardheamac (gyac), Monday, 29 November 2021 16:16 (four years ago)


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