"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

*through years of laughter* ok sure.

and tears

contra regularly has bad, poorly thought out opinions that aren't worth defending and this is clearly one of those cases

I feel like cp is bad at 'takes' and I don't know why she can't stop herself from Twitter because she clearly doesn't even enjoy it.

Anyway, these gals and NB people were clearly not doing anything at all egregious, were engaging an issue in a much friendlier manner than trans people are usually addressed in the mainstream press here and are getting absolutely monstered because of the white tears of a bad children's writer who bought Scotland. That's sort of ask there is to it.

And trans people have for decades been an outsized creative cultural force so I'm not sure it's really fair to task them with inventing jazz now simply as a means of convincing bigots that they are deserving of basic respect. Nor is 'time heals' an especially sensitive thing to say to anyone on the receiving end of everything described above.

Idiot

— Jonathan Ross (@wossy) November 23, 2021

i feel like...and i'm just exploring the thought...if a celebrated bigot and hatemonger cries wolf because their victims have been mean, maybe the bigot can go fuck themselves and wins no sympathy, idk

This is completely bananas:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/24/harpers-law-killing-emergency-workers-to-bring-life-sentence

Effectively, manslaughter being sentenced as murder whenever a separate crime is being committed, if an emergency services worker is involved.

“The emergency worker does not need to be aware that that offence had taken place or be responding directly to it.”

I don't know shit about law but a two tier homicide system seems very unnecessary + problematic and it stinks of tabloid populism.

totally uncritical reporting by the Graun too, just repeating back soundbites from Raab, Patel and the campaigner

Graun not reporting on Anna Rothery leaving the Labour Party to stand as an independent councillor either. "The leadership is more interested carrying out internal party vendettas than standing up for our people, our black community and our LGBTQIA community." It isn't even newsworthy when a black woman is hounded out of the party.

So, if someone gets killed by a car driven by getaway driver, it would depend on the victims job what sentence the driver gets.

I can see that there's been several mentions of Our Brave Bobbies in this thread recently, but my records show that none of you are reflexively wanking while reading about them - I don't want to have to send this up the line to Priti, so get to it.

(apologies for any typos, I am of course wanking)

https://rozenberg.substack.com/p/harpers-law

a wanking QC's take on it!

not heard the wanker QC's take on it yet, no doubt blanket approval from that cunt.

And also, she isn't always right, but nobody's always right

― imago, Wednesday, November 24, 2021 1:06 AM

lj would just like to point out that etc

Entertaining the possibility he is wrong again.

Lol

In a way I do feel strangely sorry for Boris Johnson, who has spent several decades spouting off the cuff bullshit and finding himself richly rewarded for it, only to discover this week that reality has flipped a switch and now all his old cheerleaders think its bad.

— Tom Whyman (@HealthUntoDeath) November 24, 2021

Treating a speech to British business with the contempt it deserves is good tho, this is like when resistance types ended up making Trump seem cool because all they'd focus on was his lack of respect for protocol and etc.

xp please do not post that person here

the BJ CBI show was a better speech than Starmer's for sure

gyac, do you find his takes bad or is there something more sinister about him that I'm not aware of?

How am I only just finding out that Tom Whyman wrote a pub review under the name "ADORNO4LYFE" in which he describes the regulars as "Lovecraftian" and "less than human" for being fat and balding https://t.co/GYwP4aE96L

— Jen's Fortress (@lusc_j) July 14, 2021

Honestly one of the worst things I’ve ever read in my life and I’ve been an ilx poster for a decade.

xp please do not post that person here

― mardheamac (gyac), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink

LJ already posts here. Used to swimming in sewage.

honestly, what do you get out of being alive

anyway that Whyman review is like reading a Victorian explorer's notes or something, grisly

his Johnson take is also spectacularly fatuous and that's coming from me innit

I feel like cp is bad at 'takes' and I don't know why she can't stop herself from Twitter because she clearly doesn't even enjoy it.

Anyway, these gals and NB people were clearly not doing anything at all egregious, were engaging an issue in a much friendlier manner than trans people are usually addressed in the mainstream press here and are getting absolutely monstered because of the white tears of a bad children's writer who bought Scotland. That's sort of ask there is to it.

And trans people have for decades been an outsized creative cultural force so I'm not sure it's really fair to task them with inventing jazz now simply as a means of convincing bigots that they are deserving of basic respect. Nor is 'time heals' an especially sensitive thing to say to anyone on the receiving end of everything described above.

― plax (ico), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 19:07 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

All fair points. I would say that maybe I'm less tasking the invention of jazz than suggesting a wider embrace of the output that currently and copiously exists. But saying 'time heals' and taking a long view elides the steps and struggles necessary to bring that prophecy about, which I agree is unhelpful, so I apologise for that.

Stella Creasy campaigning for enhanced MP's Rights again just looks incredibly brattish and annoying. Like she really needs to take the bairn into the chamber when there is a perfectly good creche in the palace of Westminster.

that Whyman fellow has a lot of cheese guy from Blur energy, an eminently punchable face etc...

it's not really a brave stand is it? i mean maybe everybody should be able to take their kids to work, maybe work shouldn't exist, idk, this is a bizarre fight to pick

When she was pregnant she was constantly moaning about how tough it is to get the extra help to honour her constituency duties. But I'm sure all those £15000 donations she gets "towards staffing and office costs" must count for something.

i assume she's pushing for her party to adopt a free childcare on demand policy

no i forgot Labour did a SureStart so that's all been taken care of forever

"you think you've got it tough (single mother struggling to keep the electric on in working poverty)... Try being Stella Creasy for a week!"

Just imagine being mistaken for Lauren Laverne by ILXor Alba, oh the humanity!

not as bad for her as someone shopping Wes Streeting's face onto her bairn lol!

child abuse IMO

she's already exposed the poor kid to the toxic atmosphere of the Labour front bench tbf

poor kid, there should be an immediate Section 47 enquiry by social services

god tom whyman is such a classic plonker

https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/8801.png?quality=75&strip=all&w=1200&h=630&crop=1

can see why such a herculean specimen doesn't like being in the low company of ordinary ugly folk.

a mix between max gogarty and johann hari with the swagger of tim dowling

Germany's 🔴🟢🟡 coalition agreement, some key points: Greens get foreign ministry & new economy-climate mega ministry, FDP get finance ministry. Deal includes coal exit "ideally" by 2030, €12 min wage, 400k new homes/year, expanded state-based investments in green, digital etc.

— Jeremy Cliffe (@JeremyCliffe) November 24, 2021

FDP the party of economic liberalism btw, so basically Germany's libertarian cranks. Great that they're getting the finance ministry.

Yeah, want to see what the detail is on "economy-climate mega ministry".

Max Gogarty ?! What's he doing nowadays?

he's an executive producer on Mortimer & Whitehouse Gone Chemsexing

[lowers sunglasses to look you in the eye] on merit

he’s a commissioning editor for telly docs at the BBC not even making that up