Joe Money, Joe Problems: the November 2021 U.S. Politics Thread

If she's announcing a vote, that means the votes are there. Less sure about the senate, but I think they have at least a chance of passing a deeply modified version.

passing a deeply modified version.

SALT cap repeal and a $25 off coupon for a drug produced by Manchin's daughter.

Sounds like he got your message, Aimless:

Another Blue Dog is a YES on bill. Kurt Schrader. Questions are where Jared Golden and Ed Case are. Golden told me his mind is made up but wouldn’t say his position yet. Slotkin also wouldn’t say. Ds feeling confident they’ll keep defections to less than three and bill will pass.

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) November 19, 2021

Looks like Josh Gottheimer is also a yes.

Schrader is still a fucking Blue Dog and a complete embarassment, but I'll take what I can get.

Lmao good

McCarthy in a floor speech alleges Democrats’ social spending bill is actually $5 trillion.

A group of Dems heckle him by shouting out increasingly large numbers:

“$6 trillion!”

“$7 trillion!”

“$8 trillion! 9!”

— Andrew Solender (@AndrewSolender) November 19, 2021

"Nobody elected Joe Biden to be FDR," McCarthy says in his floor speech.

"I did!" one Democrat pipes up.

"Me too!" says another.

— Andrew Solender (@AndrewSolender) November 19, 2021

I'm going to go with Gosar is that much of an idiot to reference Alexander Hamilton and perhaps not consider the fact that Hamilton was actually shot to death by a colleague.

Maybe he is just playing some 8D chess...

Building boom in hell for all of them...

ok lol xpost

It’s a good thread of heckles

Arguing against an Indigenous activist, an assistant U.S. Attorney in Tucson said the government “can do whatever we want with our own land. The government can even destroy the land completely.”@jbwashing and @soph_dz report:https://t.co/HsTGkMT2kb

— The New Republic (@newrepublic) November 19, 2021

The assistant U.S. Attorney in Tucson must be referring to certain provisions of the Laying Waste to Federal Lands in Utter and Complete Destruction Act of 1902.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/18/us/black-pastors-pray-arbery-death-trial/index.html

This cheered me up a little

lol

I must admit Kevin McCarthy has accomplished one thing. America is no longer woke.

— Rep. Jamie Raskin (@RepRaskin) November 19, 2021

just watched a clip of Raskin and AOC clowning on these fools while Kevin rambled on

so is this passing the Senate? feel like they wouldn't do all this if Manchin and Sinema are still a no.

the immigration piece will no doubt be gutted among other things I'd imagine

Vice President Harris to become first woman with presidential power while Biden is under anesthesia for routine colonoscopy https://t.co/SZnWkrlTNR

— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) November 19, 2021

lol conspiracy people losing it over this

Trump refusing anethesia because he didn't want Pence to be president for a couple hours is still hilarious to me

time for some executive action

so is this passing the Senate? feel like they wouldn't do all this if Manchin and Sinema are still a no.

― frogbs, Friday, November 19, 2021 9:00 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think there are reasons to be hopeful that Manchin and Sinema might come on board, but I also think Dems in the House want to be able to say that they passed something on their end, and it's not their fault if it fails in the Senate.

otm

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/19/democrats-social-spending-bill-passes-house-523026

Passed

Maybe possibly potentially good news:

🚨 SCOOP: Biden expected to replace Ron Bloom, USPS board chair and key Louis DeJoy ally, on postal boardhttps://t.co/xL99wb9PsT

— Jacob Bogage (@jacobbogage) November 19, 2021

I could have sworn I heard DeJoy going on the, er, charm offensive on the radio the other morning.

Believe crook charm is called "jibbitz"

A peek into a world that will hopefully eat itself alive

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/11/19/dustin-stockton-jen-lawrence-trump-profile-522823

verdict in apparently

BREAKING: Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty of 1st-Degree Reckless Homicide (in the death of Joseph Rosenbaum)

— Kristen Barbaresi (@KristenBarbar) November 19, 2021

Jury finds Kyle Rittenhouse not guilty on all 5 counts.

!

you can always count on the american justice system to do...well basically this

not sure why i got my hopes up

Judge sounds chipper.

of course, he's jacking it. this is what he wanted

gross

This is exactly what he wanted.

this pretty much seemed in the cards the instant someone started dissecting the videos of him killing people and going "well technically he didn't start it, so..."

idk i guess i feel like this enables them to kill us now

Or bus into Seattle or Portland protests as self-deputized police.

Time for a civil trial

Kyle Rittenhouse Sentenced To 45 Years Of CPAC Appearances https://t.co/gkPos3h7nI pic.twitter.com/OtHViwbyT1

— The Onion (@TheOnion) November 19, 2021

pretty much

Sole Democratic no on BBB pins it on SALT cap repeal

I support many of the ideas in the Build Back Better Act: pre-K, lower-priced Rx drugs for seniors, expanded child tax credits, addressing climate change, and more.

But voting for these should not be contingent on voting for tax giveaways to millionaires.

4/

— Congressman Jared Golden (@RepGolden) November 19, 2021

the unintended consequence of this verdict is
the next time people hit the streets
on some Black Lives Matter sh*t
the BLM people are going to have guns w/ them too

— melvin gibbs (@melvingibbs) November 19, 2021

Perhaps true but that will strengthen the connection between the wannabe-Rittenhouses and the cops. Not like the newly inaugurated protest free-fire rules are going to apply equitably.

^ xps - more goddamn "purity" politics. If he likes the other 99% of provisions in this massive bill so much, he could vote for it, then work to tax the rich some other way.

yea I have no clue what the implications of this are gonna be but I just feel like tuning out forever

Sole Democratic no on BBB pins it on SALT cap repeal

eh, he's the rep for a trump district and is on the right of the party, so i doubt that's the real reason.

It's kind of easy to tell who has paid attention to the trial and who hasn't by their reactions to the news.