Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase 4 & Beyond (and a chance to change your vote)

They keep on steering it down the hill!

Well, it can't go up the hill! It's San Francisco!

Forget the brakes, it's Chinatown.

Yeah - it's going pretty fast, man...

The way the bus finally comes to a stop (grinding against a garbage truck) was funny to me... when I lived in SF, I watched a Muni bus turn a corner, latch onto the side of a parked car, drag it forward, and slam it into the car parked in front of it. The driver got out, inspected the damage, and gave a look like – "FML!"

(xp the brakes were cut! and the driver was knocked out. Awkwafina does her best!)

I was trying to make an awful pun.

I enjoyed it

(the pun)

I liked Shang-Chi, I really liked the creature design. Could use more of that in Marvel movies tbh.

(meaning tossing in more incidental creatures that aren't the main villains or w/e)

I thought I caught an homage to Big Trouble in Little China, in one of the fight-club/creature/elevator scenes, but maybe I'm projecting that (not sure if that's actually a movie that anyone would pay homage to!)

pizza dog confirmed for hawkeye. I am so happy.

(and so prepared for disappointment)

god remember when you could actually see what was happening in movies https://t.co/RY9WVWmUWb

— i want to bailey-ve 🛸 (@been_herde) November 17, 2021

I mean, that's just directors trying to recreate the iconic Gwen Stacy panels from the comics

https://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Gwen-feature.jpg

The point about lighting is good though

HDR seems to have made movies darker.

SNAP

Which of those panels is iconic?

The one on the left is a classic

Have any of the movies paid tribute to this?:

https://i2.wp.com/fusion.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cqnjennviaascv1.jpg?resize=1024%2C1014&quality=80&strip=all&ssl=1

(swik)

The panel on the left has been redrawn or traced sometime between Theakston and Jemas, and garishly computer-coloured in the last ten-twenty years. It's possible that every element of that image post-dates the Raimi shot, which also does not recreate any element of that framing whatsoever.

Even if it did, the two other freezeframes that clearly are based on the Raimi framing would not be any less muddy, dark, and ill-composed.

The last of the Gwen panels in your montage is the only one that uses CGI to make the image indistinct and hard to read, but I assume that's a deliberate effect for that single panel, not a consistent element of the entire sequence (or whole comic) that the recent Spider-directors are trying to homage.

(BTW, are they chronological? The third one looks like it might be from Untold Busiek or Ultibendis, while the second one appears to be Starkings or Roshell, which I think of as the same timeframe, but only based on very limited exposure. The framing of the second is obviously not on the same Captain Yesterday mission as the third, though.)

For reference, the original panel (in context) can be seen here: https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-questions-answered-just-how-did-gwen-stacy-die/

Yeah sorry I just grabbed an image from GIS. But I seem to remember that Gwen Stacy sequence as almost a received memory.

Yeah none of the movie frames capture the original, since they're interested in the faller.

(I love that online evolution means that there's someone in the comments there claiming that the CGI goes into production before there's a cast or a script)

in fairness, some variant of that is probably true with all pre-viz / sizzle reels / storyboard pitching that happens

Yeah previs can happen prior to script: https://www.insider.com/marvel-plans-movies-action-scenes-years-before-filming-previs-visualization-2021-1

(That’s not the same thing as the final CGI “going into production” tho)

The fact that costumes are CGIed onto the actors is another way in which the final 3D models are probably “in production” before the script.

This is entirely off-topic, but I thought y'all my appreciate it:

When my son talks about stuff that happens in Marvel movies, he always refers to, e.g., "the events of Endgame" – I guess b/c that's a phrase YouTubers use?

So this morning he asked me what I thought happened to some Pixar characters, and he began: "After the events of Soul..."

Haha. I read that in "IN A WORLD..." voiceover tones.

~steeples fingers under chin~ “Go on…”

Ha ha... he asked where (who) I thought Soul #22 ended up on Earth.

Greta thunberg

Kate Bishop Hawkeye starts on Wednesday! I saw a TV commercial for the series last night, and it got me psyched in way that watching the full trailers on YouTube haven't (for some reason).

We watched Shang Chi as a family last night, and everyone enjoyed it, both the two of us that had never seen it and the two of us watching it for the second time. My wife even managed to stay awake. I feel like I'm in the minority thinking the CGI at the end was (for lack of a better word) a marvel: the scale, the way it was orchestrated, just the sheer amount of movement and information on the screen. I even liked the details of the lion-cat-monsters when they're just lurking blurry in the background. And the fight choreography is really good, too.

The making-of special was pretty sharp as well.

I started rereading the Fraction run in preparation for the Hawkeye miniseries and it got me super hyped all over again

Per io9

Speaking with /Film, Hawkeye director Rhys Thomas revealed the series is inspired by films such as Klute, Leon: The Professional and Home Alone.

That's...a range.

Also really enjoyed Shang-Chi, though the movie can't keep up the pace of its first two excellent action pieces

Is it the British comedy writer/director/actor Rhys Thomas, or the SNL director Rhys Thomas, or a third Rhys Thomas?

Trailers for Hawkeye definitely redolent of Home Alone and The Professional. But Klute? Hmm, I guess Hawkeye was killing people for money for a while.

(Like, if it’s the DtL/Spandau Ballet bloke, 98% chance it’s a joke making fun of the sort of thing ppl in these circumstances say)

it's the SNL one

xxp Maybe he just means aspects of the Fonda character generally?

i hope the next Dr Strange is equal parts Battle of Algiers, Videodrome, and Boss Baby

Apparently the Hawkeye series has been confirmed to take place two years after "the events of Endgame", which places it in late 2024 in the MCU timeline? That shit's confusing (or maybe not, if you're paying attention / care).

Right now, a kid that is getting a 31% on his midterm can tell you with pinpoint accuracy the aftershave Dr Strange wore before his accident

Did he cut himself shaving?!

excelsior true believers