Mostly Apolitical Thread for Discussing/Venting our Rational/Irrational COVID-19 Fears and Experiences in 2020

Fuck Everything, We're Doing Five BladesShots

lmao at saying "t-cell immunity doesn't wane" (wtf does this even mean?) about a group in which vaccine effectiveness dropped from 90%+ to 60%.

remember, dude thinks testing for covid is unnecessary bcz he can just tell when people have it

Update: feeling a little more run down after my round of injections yesterday, have completely reversed course on booster advisability and will be undergoing intensive cupping + leech sesh to remove the 5G from my blood and maybe just getting rid of my blood altogether if necessary. Mild fatigue is absolutely where I draw the line.

I live in Texas

xxxp

zero negative effects from initial two moderna shots or from booster

moderna kicked my arse twice. not looking forward to the booster, I still have a couple months til then at least

just got my booster :D

In South Texas our town shut down for March till May of 2020, Schools resumed and everyone went back to work. People stopped wearing masked last summer, no social distancing, everything was "normal" except Covid spread throughout South Texas like crazy during the first wave and the second Delta wave. I work across South Texas and that was not just isolated to my town but everywhere. After the Summer it was as if no one cared anymore and pandemic over. But today my neighbor told me he's taking his wife to the hospital, she can hardly walk and is struggling to breathe. She tested positive last week. Cases have been almost zero here but people travel to San Antonio and Corpus Christi where cases are low but with zero precautions. Living in South Texas is sometimes an alternate world.

I had both Pfizers in April, and the second one left me with pretty bad muscle aches and fatigue, also lack of appetite and occasional chills, starting 8 days after the second one. Lasted over a week, and it took a good 1.5-2 months to feel "back to normal." So I'm wondering which one I should get as a booster, Pfizer again (maybe my body is used to it now) or switch to Moderna (not Pfizer, but maybe it will have its own bad effects).

christ! nickn that sounds rough.

i guess the flipside is.. you've got the antibodies of a god

I live in Texas

xxxp

― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, November 16, 2021 4:27 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

make an appointment for friday and you should be good

The F.D.A. plans to authorize Pfizer-BioNTech boosters for all adults as soon as Thursday. https://t.co/D0AI78Icnn

— COVID19 (@V2019N) November 16, 2021

i guess the flipside is.. you've got the antibodies of a god

― Tracer Hand

I sure hope so.

Antibody Adonis.

so much better than having the body of an anti-Adonis

Son got his first shot Monday, was a little tired and rundown the next morning, but fine otherwise. Wife is getting boosted Thursday, my booster on Sunday. I don't expect pushback, but if asked I'll explain that I've been back full-time on a fully populated campus since August and interacting with faculty and staff on a daily basis. Glad to know we are doing as much as we can as the cases rise again.

Seeing a lot of pushback on Twitter to Fauci's "10,000 cases per day" benchmark, even from corners that have taken the pandemic pretty seriously. Feels like a tide is turning about using raw case numbers as our threshold, but who knows.

as treatments improve and vaccinations increase, case levels are going to be less meaningful. The #1 metric tracked in Austin to gauge risk level is hospitalizations.

the antivirals are going to be a big difference maker.

now the new take is "no no it's bad if the FDA approves these, then nobody will get vaccinated".

...

ah yes, that will be the thing that will keep people from getting vaccinated.

now the new take is "no no it's bad if the FDA approves these, then nobody will get vaccinated".

I find it really hard to believe this is anybody's take

I find it hard to believe that many of today's humans espouse the takes that they do. And yet...

You just have to ask 'what is the most ludicrous reason a tantrum-throwing four-year-old might give for not doing something they don't want to do?' and you can bet that someone will be objecting to something reasonable in pretty much those exact terms.

i'm not about to post the actual rando tweets I came across, for everybody's sanity and the purity of this thread.

though if someone of prominence does i will

got my turd

started the morning with a flu’n’pfizer cocktail

my side effects are over now.

Sounds like the end effects were of greater concern.

my side effects are over now.

― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal),

Let's get that fourth shot, bro. Meet you at Costco.

What do we know, if anything, about how protected kids in their first couple of weeks after Pfizer shot 1? Just trying to calibrate as we bring our 11-year-old to Thanksgiving how much I need to take care about her nearness to unvaccinated older relatives.

Sorry, I mistyped, my older relatives are NOT unvaccinated, just old, but I'd still prefer to know how much I feel I've reduced the risk she's carrying.

Anyway this goes in the "irrational fears and experiences" thread because I do not believe my older relatives are in any way concerned about getting a breakthrough infection from my partially vaxxed 11-year-old, it's purely a me thing

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/04/holiday-children-vaccinated/

i.e. partially jabbed children still have some protection

I read that already -- I don't want quotes in a news story, I want to see the studies the people quoted are drawing their info from, and I can't find them

Ah! You should've said so.

Sorry, my bad

In adults Pfizer kicks in 7-14 days after dose 1. Sustained benefits require second and third dose obviously, but it’s as effective as it’s ever going to be after about 18 days. I haven’t seen any evidence that children differ.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/12/10/1013914/pfizer-biontech-vaccine-chart-covid-19/

*18 days after dose 1

Remember Covid incubates for like a week though so the important thing is not how protected you are on thanksgiving but how protected you are now.

Slight caveat: Delta incubates a bit faster, i.e. 5-7 days.

Right. If you keep the kids secluded(ish) this weekend and do a rapid test or two next week then that’s the best you can do really (other than cancel thanksgiving).

Remember Covid incubates for like a week though so the important thing is not how protected you are on thanksgiving but how protected you are now.

Great point. I mean, she's going to school with other kids as usual, but she's been doing that all semester and the school just hasn't had outbreaks, and we don't have any plans to do anything outside our usual routine this weekend, so I feel pretty good about it now.

Vast majority at the airport wearing masks, most properly, though maybe not the guy with the "this mask is more useless than Joe Biden" mask. But it's 80 degrees in here and Thanksgiving morning and the people already stuffing their face with pizza, fried chicken and god knows what else they're selling here is grosser than covid.

Pizza and fried chicken are both good, actually

My 7yo got his 2nd shot an hour ago. Bracing for side effects.

Email/call from the high school tonight:

Dear xxx Staff, Students, and Families,
As we reported yesterday, we have seen a concerning uptick in positive cases of COVID19. As of today, we have seventeen (17) new cases in the past week. We have been in close communication with the xxx Department of Public Health about the situation. The health department has directed us to immediately cancel all clubs, athletics, and extra-curricular activities including practices and competitions effective Saturday, December 4 through winter break.

We understand that this announcement is disappointing and frustrating, especially as our winter extra-curricular activities were just getting underway. However, protecting the health and safety of our entire community is our utmost priority. As a result, we are working to gather more information, thoroughly determine the best course of action for the next two weeks, and get answers to the many questions that this announcement will generate. We greatly appreciate your patience as we do so. Please be on the lookout for more information coming from us this weekend.

People are PISSED. 17 cases? Seriously? It's a school of 3400+ kids. These kids (over 80% vaxxed) have gone through so much, and dealt with so much, for literally *years* at this point. And they on a Friday drop that they're cancelling all the stuff the kids like most for ... what? To what end? For what purpose? And, like, clubs and sports and the like are the problem, but not school itself? And what are all these kids going to do instead of their clubs? They're just going to hang out with their friends and do other things that might spread covid. It's all so frustrating. The communication on the national and local level has been so inconsistent, unclear and contradictory, with no expressed triggers or aims. Maddening.

Just saw that on the news tonight. That seems an… excessive step, especially given the vaxx rates.

All I know is that when the People's Republic of Oak Park revolt against over-regulation and over-precaution, you know you've gone too far.

Just got a clarifying email that somewhat justified the decision. Here's the meat of it, which can perhaps be extrapolated across the nation as a whole, given this is a high-vax area in a cautious state:

The number of new cases this week puts the high school community transmission rate at 425 cases/100,000 persons. This is four times higher than the overall local rate of 110/100K. (For reference, 100/100K is considered a high rate of transmission.)

This is despite having a high rate of vaccination for students and employees. Overall 81% of our students and 90% of our employees are vaccinated. Yet, of our positive cases right now, 76% are fully vaccinated. However, most students are six months past their vaccination date, their immunity may be waning, and they are not yet eligible for a booster shot.

In the midst of an outbreak, the number of positive cases changes rapidly. Over the past two weeks, we’ve seen a steady rise in cases, nearly 30 overall, with the majority occurring over the past week, and 8 cases over the past two days.

There are an average of 50-70 contacts that need to be traced for each positive case. This typically results in finding an even higher number of positive cases. As a result, we believe that 17 is not the final number of cases for last week, and new cases will continue to be identified.

Even though we added additional mitigations, our cases have continued to rise. Vaccinated close contacts--which formerly did not need to take any special precautions--are not allowed to participate in any activities unmasked and asked to eat lunch away from others. They also were advised to get a PCR test 5-7 days after exposure.

Certain mitigations recommended for schools simply aren’t feasible at the high school level. For starters, the size of many of our classrooms does not allow for optimal social distancing. Additional mitigations such as restricting students to one classroom, quarantining specific classrooms, moving to different start and end times, and adding additional teachers and classrooms to reduce class size aren’t possible.