HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

I actually sat there mumbling “Greenpeace? GREENPEACE?!”

no way that asshole is not donating all his money

Tom and Greg are comic gold!
I’m in the middle of S2…the bit about the ATN “we’re listening” speech had me in stitches

we hear... for you
is all time
there was an Apprentice episode where one fuckstick came up with a diet catfood with the tagline "see they're light" which has the same energy.

also good old romulus did pretty good with The Raisin!

the bar was admittingly low for him there though

This show nails a good balance between drama and comedy

yea it’ll be interesting if logan digs at roman @ all for the prez convo in comparison to his clearly berating shiv for her actions while he was piss mad (shiv “well what would you have done?” logan “not that”)

shiv's impressive the last few episodes. kendall is such a dumb dipshit.

yet another episode ending with kendall *crushed* --that shot of him in the terrible office, man oh man, and realizing his dad isn't coming

when ewan tells greg he’s donating his fortune and greg says “even my part?” and ewan says “yours was the first part”

*chef’s kiss*

that’ll teach greg for messing with roger pugh, ewan’s close personal friend!

i'm kinda glad i'm not binging this show i love savoring it the whole week but i will prolly go back and binge the whole season over a few days once it's done

like i miss so much b/c it's so dense. i forgot about Tom's "but he isn't even wearing a tie" until I read a recap.

also the doctor checking out the bagel rabbit!!!!!!

if he can do people, he can do rabbits

that rabbit is doomed

when jess in the background pinching the bridge of her nose like “what is my life”

connor re the president was brilliant too

lol @ shiv’s reaction to “Dad said I get European Cable”

fave thing this week was the frank/karl/gerri interplay as they keep trying to stall the shareholder meeting, karl is such a POS

and Karl finally wanting to go out when there was good news, to which frank threw his hands in the air.

this season is not as good as the first two

ha, i think it's the best one so far

yes all the vamping stuff was so funny! karl leaving frank in the lurch literally on-stage was amazing

i enjoyed "moon on a stick". presumably that was armstrong.

me too! obviously

(obvious if you know me, i mean)

I presumed the same

nah that phrase dates back to Stewart Lee & Richard Herring's mid-90s sketch show Fist of Fun.

yes that's why i assumed it was armstrong.

Why would that lead you to think it was Armstrong who plagiarised the line? The script is co-credited to Tony Roche, it could just as well have been him who nicked it.

i was trying to work out if it was an actual phrase...
didn't they also reference Stefan Strauss earlier (from Peep Show)?

and corndogs and toenails for the rest of us

xxp "plagiarised"? yes i guess it could have been the other english writer. i didn't check. i'm sorry please forgive me.

Nearly all the writers are English, and the “writers room” is in Brixton. The line which works clearly in context as well as a nod to a comedy duo of a slightly earlier age obv could have been from anyone, but feels like Armstrongian playfulness.

fun episode too, I guess they scaled back production and did some social distancing for covid reasons. I found the theatre like staging with lots of anon extras enhanced the sense of how all these Waystar schemers are lost in their own ambitions. The inner circle is a lonely place. Jostling for position in front of the ailing king. The Waystar A.G.M. had a Waystar Four Season Total Landscaping vibe, which again was partly to do with covid restrictions, I guess. Is a jigsaw piece missing regarding the telephone call Logan received behind the scenes, with tom... was Logan faking something!??

ha, i think it's the best one so far

― a (waterface), Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:46 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I haven't totally decided how I feel about this season yet but ... no

show your work

that sounds more flip than I meant it to be. Am interested in why people thing this season isn't as good.

*the screws are tightening on the family
*Kendall is a hot mess
*As are the rest of the kids, but watching Kendall go through all of this and try to get traction has been great, am genuinely curious how next week will go, looks like he's maybe being deposed?
*I thought all that Holly Hunter/Rhea from Season 2 wasn't great and ultimately distracting
*Shiv is rising through the org and doing great work but also getting yelled at by Logan in ways he's only yelled at Ro-Ro and Ken Ken
*The stakes are super high for Tom, and you can almost feel it, his outburst last week w/Egg, his crazy shit with Shiv this week

i could see someone saying season 1 is maybe a lil less good as the show needed to get its footing but otherwise this season is just as good imo as last season and its operating at a v v high level

waterface otm, for all those reasons. I really like this season. I thought Sunday's episode felt like it could have been a season finale, rather than just the halfway point.

i love all seasons equally just like i love my children roman kendall shiv and the other one

Many great moments in this episode and the season overall. Shiv's hamhanded but quasi-successful attempt to form a daughters' bond with the other Sandy was well played on both sides.

i do love this season, but I read this today and kind of agree (possibly mildish spoilers for future episodes though)
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/10/succession-season-3-review/620397/

shiv got the deal done and sold it so well she actually believed she was getting that board seat

that article is interesting but see--I totally connect with them as humans and feel stuff for them. That's why I cringe whenever one of the kids or Greggy fucks up: They're human! They could be doing so much better! They make bad decisions!

But something is lost when the Roys go so far that we can’t connect with them as humans. The question of whether TV characters should be likable is, at this point, as tired as day-old guacamole. But without being able to occasionally feel something for the characters on a show, I don’t see much point in watching—especially when the glorious schadenfreude of watching horrible people suffer is undermined by the emphatic weight of knowing how their suffering will reverberate out to others.

The question of whether TV characters should be likable is, at this point, as tired as day-old guacamole.

shouldve stopped there

Agreed, waterface, they're human in so many ways. The eps have felt less varied this season. Maybe I just want to see more sunny beaches and the best coves.

oh i feel that. lotsa dull board rooms this year and conference centers. sounds like from that atlantic article & that NYER article awhile back that we're getting some Italy sometime this season.

Kendall's apartment is pretty boss

Not even his apartment though, isn't he still in his ex's?

I am definitely looking forward to a chance in scenery though.