Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase 4 & Beyond (and a chance to change your vote)

it was very odd! and furthermore, the next Spider man movie (i have never seen any Spidey MCU shit) is apparently gonna have Alfred Molina and Jamie Foxx play the same Doc Ock and Electro from 2004 and 2010s incarnations… and so it is also odd that MCU is getting into the parallel world business, as that was DC's shit forever, and in the 70s-90s Marvel only did that thing sparingly… and so I would think they would still leave that alone, as the DC/CW TV franchise goes batshit nuts with the parallel universes! I tried to watch a bunch of those crossovers, and even me, a guy who could throw down Earth 1/Earth 2/Earth 69 with the best of 'em, threw in the towel very very quickly…

throw down Earth 1/Earth 2/Earth 69

did you buy these from Chuck Rozanski’s subscription service

so every universe is gonna have 10 movies a year?

will there be Marvel Multiplexes?

that's honestly kind of what we already have, given their ruthless theatrical deals.

knew someone was gonna say that.

admittedly it does suck because my closest theater is famous for picking up one or two art films per month and when a Marvel flick is out, they can't.

so every universe is gonna have 10 movies a year?

Ten releases, sure.

https://www.avclub.com/heres-every-upcoming-marvel-studios-series-heading-to-d-1848048261

booming posts vm. also i didn't know about your dad and i'm very sorry to hear it

A terribly directed movie

Shang Chi was great — some of the cgi was a little much but the story, the world, all of it was dope as hell and those DRAGONS

also: Tony Leung/Michelle Yeoh 4 eva

As an HK Cinema dude, I was in heaven

the fight scenes were fkn beautiful. so much variation & emotion, really telling the stories through the choreography.

and Simu KILLED it. Loved him in Kims Convenience and now he’s a goddamn superhero, such a great thing to see

My buddy who really didn't like The Eternals said he rewatched Shang Chi on TV with his fam and liked it much more the second time.

Meanwhile, six weeks of reshoots for Dr. Strange 2, which sounds significant. I wonder if, per my hunch, they're trying to better incorporate and accelerate a bunch of plot lines and characters and whatnot after all these delays, to speed this multi-project behemoth of a presumed arc into motion.

they did that for IWAR too iirc

Is "IWAR" Infinity War? I think these 6 weeks top those reshoots. Right now it's impossible to know the truth here. The Hollywood Reporter sources state that these reshoots are significant but still sound largely practical. That is, making up for time (and actor availability) lost during the pandemic, stuff like that. But of course worth recalling that the movie has already had a change in writer/director, so who knows what retooling is needed. I do imagine that epic narratives built around time travel and parallel dimensions can be tricky to pull off.

The Marvel reshoot seems to happen with almost every movie now - they have the money, a lot of producer tinkering and refining I imagine. It usually works out so why not

It's bit more than tinkering and refining, I think. Or at least more than usual. The whole messy timeline from wiki:

*Doctor Strange director and co-writer Scott Derrickson had plans for a sequel by October 2016. He signed to return as director in December 2018, when Cumberbatch was confirmed to return. The film's title was announced in July 2019 along with Olsen's involvement, while Bartlett was hired to write the film that October.

*Derrickson stepped down as director in January 2020, citing creative differences. The next month, (writer) Waldron joined the project, and Raimi took over as director by April 2020.

*Filming began in November 2020 in London but was put on hold in January 2021 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Production resumed by March 2021 and concluded in mid-April in Somerset.

*And now six more weeks of reshoots for the remainder of this year, with a (third) release date in May.

I'm sure it will work out, and I bet, given the timing, that actor availability probably explains a lot of it. Heck, some people had problems with conspicuous reshoots in "Black Widow," but I didn't notice anything wrong there.

Probably annoying him to sign on and have a new co-star attached before a script was even done! But who knows if that's how it played out...
Funny thing is I saw a trailer for Derrickson's next movie, The Black Phone, before Venom tonight

My son wanted to watch Shang-Chi, so we watched it today. The first half hour or so was great! The rest was good, but long! The final joke was great.

They seemed to want to have it both ways with the dad. He’s 1000 years old, but he’s duped by some dragon? He’s seriously blames his son for not intervening as a little kid? I feel like they should’ve even made him truly evil, or “redeemed” him a little more clearly.

This thread is great (with spoilers if you've not seen Shang-Chi)

Finally watching Shang-Chi, here as a bus operator to rate the SFT transit factors of The Bus Scene:

— Mack, yes, That Mack (@that_mc) November 13, 2021

hah loved it

I had zero idea about shang-chi prior to watching it.

I loved the snakey chinese style dragon which I don't think I've ever seen represented on screen before watching Raya and the Last Dragon which was weirdly voiced by Awkwafina.

Speaking of which I love that they were able to shoehorn her saying the word 'vagina' and later 'gina' into a Marvel movie.

Also love when I see some ridiculously named character like RAZOR FIST and realize that it has to be some old villain from the actual comics.

I also thought of Raya... and the final post-credits scene reminded me of the teaser at the very end of The Mandalorian. (It really is like a factory repurposing parts across its current product line, huh? Lol)

http://www.geekchicelite.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/nightfist.jpg

Iirc, none of the trailers more than hinted at the dragon stuff in Shang-Chi, so I was pleasantly surprised.

(I just rewatched the trailer to confirm and was, unrelated, quickly reminded that the first time I watched it for a second I thought they had sneakily cast Jackie Chan, who Leung in his long-hair wig fleetingly resembles.)

Am half an hour in, so far my reaction is "oh not the old runaway bus thing again, just steer it uphill or even not downhill and it will roll to a stop." Yours, a joyless pedant.

Easier said than done!! :D

xpost clearly you have never steered a runaway bus, what do you have against working class people?

They keep on steering it down the hill!

Well, it can't go up the hill! It's San Francisco!

Forget the brakes, it's Chinatown.

Yeah - it's going pretty fast, man...

The way the bus finally comes to a stop (grinding against a garbage truck) was funny to me... when I lived in SF, I watched a Muni bus turn a corner, latch onto the side of a parked car, drag it forward, and slam it into the car parked in front of it. The driver got out, inspected the damage, and gave a look like – "FML!"

(xp the brakes were cut! and the driver was knocked out. Awkwafina does her best!)

I was trying to make an awful pun.

I enjoyed it

(the pun)

I liked Shang-Chi, I really liked the creature design. Could use more of that in Marvel movies tbh.

(meaning tossing in more incidental creatures that aren't the main villains or w/e)

I thought I caught an homage to Big Trouble in Little China, in one of the fight-club/creature/elevator scenes, but maybe I'm projecting that (not sure if that's actually a movie that anyone would pay homage to!)

pizza dog confirmed for hawkeye. I am so happy.

(and so prepared for disappointment)

god remember when you could actually see what was happening in movies https://t.co/RY9WVWmUWb

— i want to bailey-ve 🛸 (@been_herde) November 17, 2021

I mean, that's just directors trying to recreate the iconic Gwen Stacy panels from the comics

https://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Gwen-feature.jpg

The point about lighting is good though

HDR seems to have made movies darker.

SNAP

Which of those panels is iconic?

The one on the left is a classic

Have any of the movies paid tribute to this?:

https://i2.wp.com/fusion.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/cqnjennviaascv1.jpg?resize=1024%2C1014&quality=80&strip=all&ssl=1

(swik)