Joe Money, Joe Problems: the November 2021 U.S. Politics Thread

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the "bombshell" testimony which will supposedly acquit him is such bullshit, the man was trying to disarm someone who ALREADY KILLED A DUDE.

frogbs, Thursday, 11 November 2021 03:08 (four years ago)

The prosection has indeed been terrible, and the judge is indeed a rotten fossil of a man, conservative like all the judges in this backwards ass state. There have been parades of threeper trucks through town, Nazi stickers appearing overnight, and a cadre of "supporters" holding vigil in the city park across the street from the courthouse.

― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, November 10, 2021 6:40 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

don't let it get you down. Wisconsin is awesome. I think the good people outnumber the bad. and I grew up in fucking Manitowoc

frogbs, Thursday, 11 November 2021 03:09 (four years ago)

anyway the disturbing shit about this is this apparently widely believed idea that the protestors deserved to die, because they were "there to cause violence". never mind that the only people who died were the those that this fucking Nazi gunned down. also never mind that these are the goons who made "ALL LIVES MATTER!" their entire personality for an entire fucking year.

frogbs, Thursday, 11 November 2021 03:39 (four years ago)

To meet the demands of Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), the White House agreed to drop a proposed 3 percent tax on taxpayers earning over $5 million, instead agreeing to target the higher tax to those earning more than $10 million, two people familiar with the matter said on the condition of anonymity to discuss the internal negotiations. The move exempted roughly 35,000 of the wealthiest Americans, or approximately .02 percent of the richest 1 percent, from the new levy, according to the most recent Internal Revenue Service data.

The Biden administration also agreed to pull a proposed tax in late October targeting 700 billionaires after it faced criticism from a number of top Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), who complained in one phone call with senior party officials on Oct. 26 that the plan amounted to a publicity stunt, two people familiar with the matter said. Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) also raised substantive objections to the plan.

publicity stunt

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:07 (four years ago)

i'm imagining making $5M in a year. the government wants to take an addition 3% of it from me, because i'm rich. i'm so good at having money, i know how to calculate how much this costs. 3% of $5M is $150,000. i make $5M a year like a total badass, and now i have to give up $150,000 of it? so that it can be given to other people? wtf, i'm sick of being oppressed. i need that money

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:10 (four years ago)

kyrsten sinema is my good friend, though. she looks out for me

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:10 (four years ago)

nancy pelosi having phone sex with an 81-year-old billionaire

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:15 (four years ago)

sorry, i just had to get that out of me. i'm going to put up some shelves

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:15 (four years ago)

At the Kyle Rittenhouse trial this morning, the judge asked, given that it's Veterans Day, if there were any veterans in the room.

The only one appeared to be Rittenhouse's next witness, a use of force expert. So the judge asked everyone in the court to applaud for veterans. pic.twitter.com/LmjAuu5Vzj

— Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs (@NickAtNews) November 11, 2021

is it normal to ask the jury to applaud for the defense's witness

frogbs, Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:44 (four years ago)

This guy is such a fucking clown, but knowing guys like him from that exact area (developers in the Kenosha area), he probably woulda applauded the prosecution's witness too if he was a vet. These guys have such a hard-on for the military.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:45 (four years ago)

gross

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:46 (four years ago)

fuck if I see another screencap of the Harry Styles-Biff Tannen lovechild cwying on cue I might destroy every electronic device in a 5 mile radius.

prosecutor today basically accusing the judge of playing favorites without being able to say that for obvious reasons, and it's pretty obvious this is the case but hey, what can you do. "god bless the usa" amirite

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:48 (four years ago)

He's totally lil' Danny McBride with no beard, come on.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:00 (four years ago)

is it normal for a judge to make an ass out of themselves several different times during a single trial?

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:14 (four years ago)

yes

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:15 (four years ago)

jfc

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:21 (four years ago)

i'm imagining making $5M in a year. the government wants to take an addition 3% of it from me, because i'm rich. i'm so good at having money, i know how to calculate how much this costs. 3% of $5M is $150,000. i make $5M a year like a total badass, and now i have to give up $150,000 of it? so that it can be given to other people? wtf, i'm sick of being oppressed. i need that money

wouldn't it be a additional 3% marginal tax on income above $5 million, and not an additional 3% on the first $5 million?

aegis philbin (crüt), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:26 (four years ago)

that is correct

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:27 (four years ago)

but i need that marginal amount

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:28 (four years ago)

i was gonna create jobs

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:29 (four years ago)

i was gonna create tacos

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:36 (four years ago)

I'm at the combination job creation taco bell

I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:39 (four years ago)

This guy is such a fucking clown, but knowing guys like him from that exact area (developers in the Kenosha area), he probably woulda applauded the prosecution's witness too if he was a vet. These guys have such a hard-on for the military.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, November 11, 2021 11:45 AM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

can confirm, met some of these guys during the process of buying a home and moving here

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:46 (four years ago)

Meanwhile:

A defense attorney for the men accused of killing Ahmaud Arbery is currently objecting to Al Sharpton’s presence in the court room, saying it’s intimidating. “We don’t want any more black pastors in here,” he just said.

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) November 11, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:48 (four years ago)

Any more? How many are they?

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:53 (four years ago)

I'm at the combination job creation taco bell


Lol

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:58 (four years ago)

+2 OUTCOME FOR CUSTOMERS: ALL CUSTOMERS HAVE THE BEST MOMENT IN THEIR DAY AT COMBINATION JOB CREATION TACO BELL

just staying (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 November 2021 19:15 (four years ago)

fuck this piece of shit

#RittenhouseTrial Judge Bruce Schroeder breaks for lunch referencing the food that was ordered saying, “I hope the Asian food isn’t coming.. isn’t on one of those boats from Long Beach Harbor.” pic.twitter.com/UakvcxbSO1

— Kyung Lah (@KyungLahCNN) November 11, 2021

thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Thursday, 11 November 2021 19:16 (four years ago)

Always glad when assholes are too dumb to stay under the radar.

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Thursday, 11 November 2021 19:24 (four years ago)

is there something to that remark I'm not getting

frogbs, Thursday, 11 November 2021 19:49 (four years ago)

echoing fox news's supply chain talking points

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 November 2021 19:52 (four years ago)

xp -- I don't think so! I just mean it's bad that the judge is an asshole, but good that he's making it plain. If Rittenhouse gets acquitted, maybe the prosecution can appeal on the grounds that he obviously had the judge on his side? I dunno.

Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:39 (four years ago)

you can't appeal an acquittal :/

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:44 (four years ago)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91vFUzKigPL._SY606_.jpg

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 11 November 2021 21:45 (four years ago)

you can't appeal an acquittal :/

for good reasons. a hung jury would allow for a retrial. but retrials happen so rarely it would amount to an acquittal.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:01 (four years ago)

wrong but i have things to do now

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:08 (four years ago)

ok. that reflected my best understanding, but you would certainly know better than I do.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 11 November 2021 22:14 (four years ago)

i'm sorry that was referring to the last sentence only, no reason to think it wouldn't be retried if there was a hung jury or other mistrial

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 11 November 2021 23:20 (four years ago)

the thing that's really irritating me now is all the right-wing commenters whining about the media "getting it wrong" and how people won't change their mind even when "proven wrong", basically insinuating that because Rittenhouse might have a plausible self-defense strategy it means everybody owes him a giant fucking apology. for one these fuckers don't have the capability to admit they're wrong about anything, and in fact would rather die a horrible death on a ventilator than get the shot that the "woke mafia" wants them to take. for two the media never reported it incorrectly! the guy's mom drove him across state lines to a community he didn't live in, decided to play cop, and wound up being the one guy who actually murdered people! those are the facts! the left's issue with him was never that he "broke the law"!!

frogbs, Friday, 12 November 2021 20:30 (four years ago)

also what kind of a horrible mother is this? I have trouble leaving my kids alone outside cuz I'm afraid they'll run in the street or something, this lady is literally dropping her teenage son off with a killing machine to police hostile protestors. I cannot imagine ever putting one of my kids in a situation like that, this fucking psycho

frogbs, Friday, 12 November 2021 20:33 (four years ago)

What this country needs are more armed "play cops" and attempted "citizen's arrests" that's for certain.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 12 November 2021 20:50 (four years ago)

there will absolutely be more of these and more private security firms doing policing in the very near future

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 12 November 2021 21:07 (four years ago)

Stipulating all necessary caveats about The Bulwark, this is a pretty riveting read about the insane Claremont Institute's pre-election "war game": https://www.thebulwark.com/notes-on-an-authoritarian-conspiracy-inside-the-claremont-institutes-79-days-to-inauguration-report/. It rightly focuses on the wish-fulfillment nutsiness of the imaginary scenarios.

Law enforcement plays an openly insurrectionist role throughout the “79 Days” exercise, defying civilian leaders, refusing to offer them protection, and threatening them with arrest.

For example, the report imagines Chicago police (with vocal backing from their union) abandoning Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s residential block, permitting protesters to set up camp on her front lawn.

In imagined dialogue, the wargame quotes the city’s Fraternal Order of Police president as saying “We have officers risking their lives by not shooting people they should be shooting, or waiting too long because Lightfoot and her Soros-funded prosecutor Kim Foxx seem more interested in arresting cops than criminals.”

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 12 November 2021 21:40 (four years ago)

Bannon indicted

thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Friday, 12 November 2021 22:30 (four years ago)

Nation yawns.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 November 2021 22:33 (four years ago)

now waiting for "bannon convicted"

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 12 November 2021 23:01 (four years ago)

2 misdemeanors

just staying (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 November 2021 23:09 (four years ago)

Both counts are misdemeanors, which come with a maximum of one year behind bars and a $1,000 fine.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/bannon-contempt-congress-charged-january-6

"biggest bastard of all time gets 2 misdemeanors" is not a good headline though

just staying (Karl Malone), Friday, 12 November 2021 23:10 (four years ago)

but then he'd be a convicted misdemeanor-er

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 12 November 2021 23:11 (four years ago)

The Honorable VCR Blinking 12:00, presiding https://t.co/b6LDlG37hf

— Prof. Lemon Gogurt, Podcast State University (@Ugarles) November 12, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 12 November 2021 23:19 (four years ago)


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