HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

love to spend 49.5 million dollars on a house that looks like a hospital

most of the $50m houses out there look like this https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/232-Gibson-Ln-Sagaponack-NY-11962/142505411_zpid/

they had to show you just how much of an asshole brody is

i have noticed with these mamsions there are often at least 2 bathrooms for every 1 bedroom, ratio wise. SO many bathrooms

mansions, even

rich people like to let their toilets rest a while after taking a shit in them

Why did they need to fly to the hamptons? Can’t a helicopter do that?

ever heard of an air transportation flex

the meeting scene was some crazy good acting and writing, I absolutely could not tell if Brody was lying about his kid being sick, could not tell if he and logan had colluded first, could not tell if logan was faking a heart attack (at first). amazing.

the three registers of Brody relationships we saw - to the supplicant (Kendall), to the serious-person-he-is-attempting-to-force-treat-as-a-peer (Logan), to the one he wants something from (Stewy) - were superbly done.

this show is somehow both sublime and totally trashy at the same time

the sweet spot

So the creator has talked about 1-2 more seasons and the fact that *someone* has to step up.

So who do we think is going to "succeed" Logan

*maybet Kendall? though there have been too many close ups this season of watching his face sink (closing shot this week, him walking down the hallway last week).
*Shiv got iced this week by Logan, though she gets shit done.
*Not Roman, right? It would almost be too funny.
*Same w/Greg
*I hope it's not some outsider. Gotta be one of the kids.

I almost think Shiv, though she's gonna have to get through Karl and Frank and that might be hilarious

Maybe it will be Kendall?

Also this season needs more Stewey because I hate him so much

greg will definitely be CEO in the last scene of the series - the opening of the series demands it

but i find it hard to justify a real plot arc around this, so most likely it's a last-minute lol at the end

narrative demands mean that Roman will get the chance to be CEO but will make "the wiser choice"

which leaves Shiv and Kendall, battling it out in the show's final episodes (after logan dies). probably shiv gets it but then ends up somehow being humiliated/defeated for her hubris?

and then, yeah, greg

Kendall also has that security guard who last week was all I know what you did in England at that wedding

Yeah what's the explanation for why Logan hasn't exposed Kendall as a murderer? Is the idea that it would kill their ability to survive Stewy? But if that's the reason, doesn't Kendall know he's dead meet once/if the Roys win the shareholder vote?

Yeah, I think it's just that a serious murder investigation will definitely trump *allegations*, which the Roy family thinks they can just handwave away and evade, as per usual. A murder investigation would almost certainly chase the shareholders away immediately.

The show does seem set up to tell Greg's ascent from nothing to the top, or at least Greg as the only one who carries on the family business at all.

I sometimes have trouble following the business machinations. What did Shiv do that was so bad? Just being pushy with Frank and Karl?

My take was that one of them whined to Logan about her micromanaging them.

Yeah what's the explanation for why Logan hasn't exposed Kendall as a murderer?

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:15 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

well logan was involved in the cover up

also just he wouldnt go that far

xp OK that is a good point

I sometimes have trouble following the business machinations. What did Shiv do that was so bad? Just being pushy with Frank and Karl?

― dan selzer, Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:59 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

shes just walking around like a big baby shes got no finesse no sense for the people shes working with what the power dynamics are what shes knows and doesnt know, like in that scene she just needs to let frank and karl do their work not have a lil tantrum about how shes supposed to be the boss or whatever

pretty good depiction of inexperience, shes has ideas of how things should work but she doesnt really know

amazing ep. small things i enjoyed:
roman saying "after me" as he barges through the door someone else is holding open
greg ordering and then chugging a rum and coke before opining about the '60s
connor (sp?) shifting from passive doofus to assertive doofus

the entire greg & tom scene was amazing, there hasn't been enough greg & tom yet this season

btw mansions have two bathrooms per bedroom because you need an extra bathroom to make your toilet wine

when does connor get to run the company

poor connor lol

roman saying "after me" as he barges through the door someone else is holding open

yes, I loved this.

connor v raisin primary gonna be lit

feel like we're getting bang for our buck with tom and greg this season--i like it. That scene last night was amazing.

Just figured out now they call the President the Raisin. Somehow missed that.

This season has been exceptionally good except for the second episode. I'll be watching it and think "I can't wait to rewatch this"

That scene with Tom and Greg was actually painful, I knew so many guys in high school that would pull that, "let's fight, c'mon let's fight"... "what the fuck? I was joking dude, what's wrong with you" shit.

tom is so obsessed with greg

urgh, yeh, that tom and Greg stuff is, as Roman would probably put it, 'some bully betacuck shit', painful to watch, I love how loathesome tom is.

as said above, the actor playing Tom is amazing. I think all the acting is great but this week he def. felt like a man *burdened* by his future but it also seems like he's gonna fuck some shit up on his way out the door

there's a bullying aspect but i do think on some level he also wants to protect/mentor greg

Yeah he seems conflicted. Like wants to help Greg but doesn't know what Greg's angle is.

The dude playing Greg is good too, but Greg is kinda one note, as much as I hate to admit it. But it's a good note.

greg’s whole vibe with greg is very private school prefect & i enjoy it v much

Greg had some good Greg reaction faces this week, yeah, I agree there's a conflict for tom with Greg, I wouldn't say mentoring so much as inculcating and alliance forming tho. Tom eats so much shit everywhere else, he needs his egg, but the egg is already part of the family and not easily tied down, tom floundering and clearly in crisis is a loose cannon in the mix, for sure. the laminated prison folder stuff was so funny.

I think on some level, Tom really wants to be friends with Greg as they share this outsider status, but Tom is just too fucked up/brainwashed by the family to establish an adult friendship. LOL also feels like Tom is prepping himself for life in prison so he's using Greg as a punching bag for his alpha tough guy persona. And pushing over the coat rack was great foreshadowing.

lol tom in prison jostling some 60 year old account in there for tax fraud around making weird passive aggressive threats

i think it's interesting that this show is about how shitty rich people are without presenting a corresponding character like a working-class maid for us to identify with. it probably works better the way it is, where instead of seeing the lives of the people who have to somehow set up a lobster and clam bake on the beach of a private island, you just see the fruits of their labor and have to imagine what that's like.

Offering a "nice" character for you to identify with would be a copout. I think it's closer to right to say that you are supposed to identify with the Roys, and reflect that, were you in their situation, you would behave as they do (or, at least, as one of them does, since there's some variation.)

that's kind of Greg's role, no?

Yeah, and he's turning into a Roy as we watch!

Important not to forget that already from the outset Greg is a guy expecting a 250 million inheritance or thereabouts

biggest lol for me was Tom stressing about toilet wine

i love how every time Tom talks to Shiv about prison you can almost see her mentally calculating when he’ll actualy go to prison so she doesnt have to deal w him anymore

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