Joe Money, Joe Problems: the November 2021 U.S. Politics Thread

we should poll this

totally

milk has more sugar in it than anything else iirc, it's not a great mass builder, just to give you all the sw0le perspective here

jon, they'd have to be drinking more than a gallon a day PER PERSON, some of whom are small children. That's not remotely normal.

This is not true. They are saying 12 gallons PER WEEK. 11 gallons per day per person would mean they are buying 132 gallons per week.

12 gallons per week / 11 person household means 1.09 gallons for each member for a week. Which, again, I would not argue is that weird.

"would argue is not that weird"

it's totally weird to drink a glass of milk w/every meal which is how much you'd have to drink

A gallon a week would not get you a glass for 21 meals. Christ.

I mean, if you consider 7 ounces enough sure, but I would also venture a guess that the majority of the milk in question is being used for kid's cereal.

I hate that I am even defending this, but some of you have such a bizarre take on this.

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if milk is a huge part of these folks budget cool but to a lot of us it seems like an ungodly amount of milk not to mention a ridiculous amount of children. . . for which the parents likely got $ from Biden for the CTC, which this story fails to mention. it's a total strawmanny argument but keep on chuggin

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It's not "ungodly" though.

I still remember my oldest sister going away to university to become a dietician and returning to our Indiana home upon the first break to declare that we did not in fact need to drink a glass of milk with our spaghetti.

we were hosting Chinese students the summer of 2017 and this one 13-year-old girl would drink glass after glass of milk, we were going through a 6-pint bottle every day and she was taking more than half of it.

i love a good political debate about milk

Don't know what the debate was about, just wanted to join in the milk chat

Oh okay my math was off, fine. This is still a dumb non-story.

I can't find the tweet now bc I read it at like 6am but someone noted that they live in a half-mil+ dollar house in a neighborhood where the median home value is more like $200k, so if they had financial struggles there are a few things they could try before starting to death or dying of rickets.

* starving, obv

i was sincerely enjoying the milk talk! i'm actually drinking milk right now, because of it :D

Just 9 kids in a room...

milk chuggin is my fave dino jr b side

i was sincerely enjoying the milk talk! i'm actually drinking milk right now, because of it :D

― just staying (Karl Malone),

What gin did you pick to dilute it?

I wasn't trying to sneer at the midwest, jon. I was also told that I needed to drink a lot of milk growing up here in Philly, and I always thought it was disgusting!

i mean prices for everything have gone up though where i am, milk is obviously a dumb red herring. i don't care if people call it inflation or what, or whether or not it's rich people pointing it out, or which party it benefits politically to acknowledge it, but it seems pretty clear to me that most people aren't experiencing an "economic recovery" of any kind atm. they were when the government decided to give out free money, for two quarters, but that's been over for a while now and all signs from the party in power are pointing to "we need to go back to squeezing regular people as much as possible"

i mean prices for everything have gone up though where i am, milk is obviously a dumb red herring.

I have recently tried to give up eating meat as much as possible (I tend to have one "cheat day" per week) and I have noticed my grocery bills going down, but not as much as I expected them to.

No one in my house drinks milk from a glass, but cereal consumption is high.

My children consume so much cereal that it inspired me to rediscover cereal myownself. Like? DAMN. Cereal is really comforting. Any time of day. Perfect meal: refreshing, hearty.

Yeah, we've been doing cheaper meals even though we're both making pretty decent money at the moment, and I'm still sort of flabbergasted at how high the grocery bills are.

I haven't experienced supply or price problems, in part b/c my city is damn expensive anyway and I'm single. Gas prices are high, but they were high in 2018 or 2019.

Inflation's one of those things like baggage claim employees: the latter never get credit for doing well but instead get yelled at all day. Consumers love complaining about the high price of anything.

I also love cereal, with homemade oatmilk.

which, before anyone accuses me of being insane, is very very easy and quick to make.

politics, amirite.

Inflation's one of those things like baggage claim employees: the latter never get credit for doing well but instead get yelled at all day. Consumers love complaining about the high price of anything.

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sorry but this is horseshit. prices for everything have gone up significantly and demonstrably since the first half of 2020. it's the kind of arrogant and out-of-touch thing that democrats tell themselves before they lose elections.

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milk sharpens you up for a bit of the ol' ultra-violence, no?

OK, I apologize. I haven't asked relatives with children because they're by varying degrees right wing zombies.

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grana padano is the new parmigiano-reggiano. parmigiano-reggiano is now gold bullion.

Always cool to see the young Dalziel in that photo.

i assume "the young Dalziel" is a name for the move where you rest a glass of milk on your bulge

i don't know if it's gas companies squeezing prices based on perceived potential regulation or what, but the price of gas started going up significantly after the election, at least where i am - i realize a lot of this varies from region to region. i think it's a big part of why democrats are about to lose big time. working people just can't afford the costs of infrastructure upgrades that keep getting kicked down to them, so they're going to go with the other guy and kick the shit further down the chain. i keep seeing all this stuff from the dem/liberal side trying to pretend like this dynamic doesn't exist and it's frustrating.

Gas has gone up from two-something to $3.49 a gallon in NJ.

Is prices going up due to supply chain shortages because "just in time" logistics only works as long as nothing ever goes wrong, properly classified as "inflation"? Or just, like, a temporary shortage of a commodity?

Some of the high costs (prices average $3.25 here) have to do with the real supply problems + finding people who want to drive trucks at shit wages + oil commodity traders.

The ideal solution with more than a +1 Senate majority without shit bird legislators like Manchin getting industry kickbacks would've been to keep the stimulus checks coming (they had an effect!) until COVID numbers are severely low (not likely) or, to be cynical, until the '22 midterms.

it really doesn't matter what the reason is, but do we think prices for this stuff are going to go back down? gas, sure, possibly, but i've ... never seen that happen for a food or consumer product in my lifetime. meanwhile there's no evidence of wage increases whatsoever that i've seen. in spite of all this talk of "worker leverage"

many xposts - I wasn't trying to single anyone out, I was just annoyed by the incredulous level of response that was getting, like "this is INSANE can you BELIEVE the UNFATHOMABLE amounts of MILK these oddballs drink". It's definitely a terrible framing for the story CNN was trying to tell and obviously there are ways this particular family could cut back, but acting all shocked like this was some herculean, unheard of amount of milk consumption underscores how vastly different experiences are for people growing up in different pockets of the country.

It's a story made for Twitter.

"young Dalziel" is the actor on McDowell's right, who played the blunt but effective senior detective in Reginald Hill's "Dalziel and Pascoe" tv series.

jon just search and replace "arugula" to get a more coastal perspective

"latte" works in a pinch as well

Whether you're buying one gallon of milk or twenty gallons, the percentage increase is the same, so emphasizing the number of gallons purchased as adding up to "a lot of money" just confuses the issue.